Redshirting consequences at Lafayette

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

A family that had enrolled their redshirted kid in K at our school for 25-26 after winning the lottery was notified by MySchoolDC that they would have to enroll in 1st instead. But they spoke to the principal who has confirmed the K enrollment will stand. So there must be some discretion.

How recent was this? Because I know principals at schools that had historically done this have walked back on it just in the last 1-2 weeks. Kids that were enrolled in K for 25-26 now being moved to 1st.

“Historically”? Show me proof.

What DCPS is doing is unprecedented

[Anonymous]

I hope all the parents do take their kids out and send to private, let’s enrollment drop and see what happens to funding.

We’ll be heading back to the 90’s in DC in no time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

There's no data on it because redshirting violated DCPS policy and is not allowed at the vast majority of schools. Find me an EOTP school hat has an "unofficial redshirting" policy like the one Lafayette used to have. You can't.

99% is a guestimate but it can't be far off. Redshirting is not permitted at the vast majority of schools absent an IEP and even then it is rare because most educators in DCPS default to the position that keeping a child with their assigned cohort will be beneficial for closing gaps. This is especially the position of most SpEd teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

There's no data on it because redshirting violated DCPS policy and is not allowed at the vast majority of schools. Find me an EOTP school hat has an "unofficial redshirting" policy like the one Lafayette used to have. You can't.

99% is a guestimate but it can't be far off. Redshirting is not permitted at the vast majority of schools absent an IEP and even then it is rare because most educators in DCPS default to the position that keeping a child with their assigned cohort will be beneficial for closing gaps. This is especially the position of most SpEd teachers.

Wrong.


Show me the policy that “doesn’t allow it”. Are you the one who said it’s been linked? Because it hasn’t because there isn’t any.

And any policy on the website now is 1. Random words from self serving DCPS central people not supported by legislation and 2. Were added within the past couple of months. Go ahead and check the WayBack Machine 😜

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

There's no data on it because redshirting violated DCPS policy and is not allowed at the vast majority of schools. Find me an EOTP school hat has an "unofficial redshirting" policy like the one Lafayette used to have. You can't.

99% is a guestimate but it can't be far off. Redshirting is not permitted at the vast majority of schools absent an IEP and even then it is rare because most educators in DCPS default to the position that keeping a child with their assigned cohort will be beneficial for closing gaps. This is especially the position of most SpEd teachers.

Wrong.


Show me the policy that “doesn’t allow it”. Are you the one who said it’s been linked? Because it hasn’t because there isn’t any.

And any policy on the website now is 1. Random words from self serving DCPS central people not supported by legislation and 2. Were added within the past couple of months. Go ahead and check the WayBack Machine 😜

People have linked the relevant language over and over. You are the only person who interprets it to be ambiguous. Acting like it hasn't been linked because you choose to read it nonsensically is just disingenuous. Yes, of course they are being more forward-leaning in publicizing this policy since this whole blow up happened.

At our EOTP/WOTR school, there is very limited redshirting. I think there was a little bit more flexibility during COVID (young-for-year kids who didn't start their kids in PK3 to get 45 minutes of zoom and then wanted them to start in PK3 the following year), because we have a couple of August birthday rising 3rd graders (should be 4th graders) that I'm aware of, whereas I don't know of any in other years that aren't explained by IEPs/developmental delays or kids being held back or school district transfers. (That's not to say there aren't any, but there haven't been in my kids' classes.) To be perfectly honest, the rising 3rd graders I know are actually precocious girls with attorney parents who are probably not dissimilar to the Lafayette crowd; the two girls in question would be middle of the road+ in every respect in the grade ahead and one would probably be an academic standout even the year ahead, making it even more unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope all the parents do take their kids out and send to private, let’s enrollment drop and see what happens to funding.

We’ll be heading back to the 90’s in DC in no time

If all the parents who want to redshirt did this, then there would be a handful or two more lottery spots across some of the more desirable elementary schools WotP. EotP schools would be unaffected beyond the handful or two students who lotteried into to the WotP schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope all the parents do take their kids out and send to private, let’s enrollment drop and see what happens to funding.

We’ll be heading back to the 90’s in DC in no time

All because you think lil Larlo cannot hack phonics at 5? have some more confidence in your kid!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

There's no data on it because redshirting violated DCPS policy and is not allowed at the vast majority of schools. Find me an EOTP school hat has an "unofficial redshirting" policy like the one Lafayette used to have. You can't.

99% is a guestimate but it can't be far off. Redshirting is not permitted at the vast majority of schools absent an IEP and even then it is rare because most educators in DCPS default to the position that keeping a child with their assigned cohort will be beneficial for closing gaps. This is especially the position of most SpEd teachers.

Wrong.


Show me the policy that “doesn’t allow it”. Are you the one who said it’s been linked? Because it hasn’t because there isn’t any.

And any policy on the website now is 1. Random words from self serving DCPS central people not supported by legislation and 2. Were added within the past couple of months. Go ahead and check the WayBack Machine 😜

Give it up Lafayette mom. the policy is longstanding, clearly articulated, and in line with the statute and regulations. You mad the rules apply to you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m new to the post. Redshirting should be illegal. Kids are 10 in my child’s 3rd grade class while some are 8.

Montessori classes have a three year age spread in all classes. It's not the disaster some of you are making it out to be.

They also keep the kid in academics at their grade level, not a year or two behind. It may be a mixed classroom but kids work in age appropriate groups and task. Your should be first grader would not be doing k work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

There's no data on it because redshirting violated DCPS policy and is not allowed at the vast majority of schools. Find me an EOTP school hat has an "unofficial redshirting" policy like the one Lafayette used to have. You can't.

99% is a guestimate but it can't be far off. Redshirting is not permitted at the vast majority of schools absent an IEP and even then it is rare because most educators in DCPS default to the position that keeping a child with their assigned cohort will be beneficial for closing gaps. This is especially the position of most SpEd teachers.

Wrong.


Show me the policy that “doesn’t allow it”. Are you the one who said it’s been linked? Because it hasn’t because there isn’t any.

And any policy on the website now is 1. Random words from self serving DCPS central people not supported by legislation and 2. Were added within the past couple of months. Go ahead and check the WayBack Machine 😜

Give it up Lafayette mom. the policy is longstanding, clearly articulated, and in line with the statute and regulations. You mad the rules apply to you?

Once again, many posters. Not PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

There's no data on it because redshirting violated DCPS policy and is not allowed at the vast majority of schools. Find me an EOTP school hat has an "unofficial redshirting" policy like the one Lafayette used to have. You can't.

99% is a guestimate but it can't be far off. Redshirting is not permitted at the vast majority of schools absent an IEP and even then it is rare because most educators in DCPS default to the position that keeping a child with their assigned cohort will be beneficial for closing gaps. This is especially the position of most SpEd teachers.

Wrong.


Show me the policy that “doesn’t allow it”. Are you the one who said it’s been linked? Because it hasn’t because there isn’t any.

And any policy on the website now is 1. Random words from self serving DCPS central people not supported by legislation and 2. Were added within the past couple of months. Go ahead and check the WayBack Machine 😜

Give it up Lafayette mom. the policy is longstanding, clearly articulated, and in line with the statute and regulations. You mad the rules apply to you?

Once again, many posters. Not PP.

No. This "show me the policy" poster is absolutely the same person who has been posting the whole time. I doubt they'd deny it even.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my daughter’s private DC preschool, 1/3 of the children would be pushed into 1st after preschool if this rule is applied broadly. Anyone know what the principals/registrars at Key, Mann, Stoddert and Hyde are actually doing in these situations ?

I’m part of the PTO at a DCPS elementary school and our principal indicated that they have absolutely no discretion on this. As in, the computers do not give them the option to deviate.

DP and I love this if true.

But it’s not true.

The system does not - or previously did not - automatically do anything.

And the person who said “99% of DC schools unilaterally do not allow redshirting” are also lying because there’s no such data

There's no data on it because redshirting violated DCPS policy and is not allowed at the vast majority of schools. Find me an EOTP school hat has an "unofficial redshirting" policy like the one Lafayette used to have. You can't.

99% is a guestimate but it can't be far off. Redshirting is not permitted at the vast majority of schools absent an IEP and even then it is rare because most educators in DCPS default to the position that keeping a child with their assigned cohort will be beneficial for closing gaps. This is especially the position of most SpEd teachers.

Wrong.


Show me the policy that “doesn’t allow it”. Are you the one who said it’s been linked? Because it hasn’t because there isn’t any.

And any policy on the website now is 1. Random words from self serving DCPS central people not supported by legislation and 2. Were added within the past couple of months. Go ahead and check the WayBack Machine 😜

Give it up Lafayette mom. the policy is longstanding, clearly articulated, and in line with the statute and regulations. You mad the rules apply to you?

Once again, many posters. Not PP.

No. This "show me the policy" poster is absolutely the same person who has been posting the whole time. I doubt they'd deny it even.

Well the last time wasn’t me, and I have posted similarly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope all the parents do take their kids out and send to private, let’s enrollment drop and see what happens to funding.

We’ll be heading back to the 90’s in DC in no time

You think there's going to be a mass exodus from DCPS because a couple families didn't get an exception almost no one gets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope all the parents do take their kids out and send to private, let’s enrollment drop and see what happens to funding.

We’ll be heading back to the 90’s in DC in no time

You think there's going to be a mass exodus from DCPS because a couple families didn't get an exception almost no one gets?

Right? In this economy?