Senior Proms

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Anonymous wrote:Yes!!!! We’re planning one. Seniors only; no outside guests. So happy for these kids. I would hate for them to be robbed of their final prom along with everything else.

Why no outside guests? They can get a test—there have almost instant tests now. Seems unfair if your boyfriend/girlfriend is at another school.

Rapid tests aren't accurate. Even PCP tests are only helpful if you quarantine for 3-5 days before the test (since the test won't pick up recently acquired infections) and continue to quarantine until the dance. No one would do that for prom.

It's a non-issue. The kids will be vaccinated. Very excited that they are going to have a prom this year.

They will not all be vaccinated.

At best 16-18 year olds have just become eligible for pfizer (the one shot j&j is not yet available for teens). So it'll be 7 weeks until full immunity, assuming that everyone is able to get appointments immediately, which seems unlikely.

Fine. You tell your 17 or 18 year old that they cannot go to the prom this year, because mommy is waiting for herd immunity. Meanwhile, DD and I are dress shopping this weekend and she can't wait.

Are you going to buy a face mask to match her dress? Sounds fun! Honestly, I feel genuinely sorry for your child to have been raised to believe their ability to go to a prom, of all things, matters more than other people's lives. What an empty, shallow, petty, vapid, and self-absorbed worldview. There is zero chance that every senior at that prom will be able to be vaccinated in the next few weeks. There isn't even time for full immunity. A large indoor gathering during which people dance together and frequently take off their masks to drink or eat will be a super spreader event. The kids at the prom may not suffer and die horrible deaths alone in the ICU, but someone will. And maybe some new variant will have an opportunity to emerge or circulate, maybe meet some semi-vaccinated teens and evolve to evade vaccine protections. But none of that matters as long you get to take prom pictures in the backyard.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make ‘fetch’ happen!

Ha!

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Anonymous wrote:St. Andrew's is holding an outdoor movie night (with food trucks) in lieu of a prom. Honestly, my DS thinks this sounds better than a traditional prom.

Having said that, with all the vaccines available now, it seems like a prom could be held in June. (I always wondered whey the prom had to be held so early - April seems too early to me.)

Just for the record, many of the girls at my DD's school (not SAES) hate the idea of anything this casual. They have been looking forward to having a prom since middle school.

That is kind of sad.

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Our school didn't do anything but individual groups of kids got together for photos, which I was fine with. Group was small, 8 people, outside.

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Anonymous wrote:St. Andrew's is holding an outdoor movie night (with food trucks) in lieu of a prom. Honestly, my DS thinks this sounds better than a traditional prom.

Having said that, with all the vaccines available now, it seems like a prom could be held in June. (I always wondered whey the prom had to be held so early - April seems too early to me.)

Just for the record, many of the girls at my DD's school (not SAES) hate the idea of anything this casual. They have been looking forward to having a prom since middle school.

That is kind of sad.

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And why is that "sad," PP? Please, explain yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes!!!! We’re planning one. Seniors only; no outside guests. So happy for these kids. I would hate for them to be robbed of their final prom along with everything else.

Why no outside guests? They can get a test—there have almost instant tests now. Seems unfair if your boyfriend/girlfriend is at another school.

Rapid tests aren't accurate. Even PCP tests are only helpful if you quarantine for 3-5 days before the test (since the test won't pick up recently acquired infections) and continue to quarantine until the dance. No one would do that for prom.

It's a non-issue. The kids will be vaccinated. Very excited that they are going to have a prom this year.

They will not all be vaccinated.

At best 16-18 year olds have just become eligible for pfizer (the one shot j&j is not yet available for teens). So it'll be 7 weeks until full immunity, assuming that everyone is able to get appointments immediately, which seems unlikely.

Fine. You tell your 17 or 18 year old that they cannot go to the prom this year, because mommy is waiting for herd immunity. Meanwhile, DD and I are dress shopping this weekend and she can't wait.

Are you going to buy a face mask to match her dress? Sounds fun! Honestly, I feel genuinely sorry for your child to have been raised to believe their ability to go to a prom, of all things, matters more than other people's lives. What an empty, shallow, petty, vapid, and self-absorbed worldview. There is zero chance that every senior at that prom will be able to be vaccinated in the next few weeks. There isn't even time for full immunity. A large indoor gathering during which people dance together and frequently take off their masks to drink or eat will be a super spreader event. The kids at the prom may not suffer and die horrible deaths alone in the ICU, but someone will. And maybe some new variant will have an opportunity to emerge or circulate, maybe meet some semi-vaccinated teens and evolve to evade vaccine protections. But none of that matters as long you get to take prom pictures in the backyard.

Oh, my precious PP, you are so wrong about that. Every. Single. Senior at my kids' DC private has been vaccinated. And they are ready to party it up and celebrate. I'm sorry that you are so focused on this mythical "someone" who WILL "suffer and die a horrible death alone in the ICU" (wow - are you a drama writer on the side?) - you do realize, that DC has had zero deaths in the last 3-4 days, right? The facts do not coincide with your distorted thinking on reality.

Congrats to the Class of '21 and enjoy every moment of your prom. You've earned it!

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who didn't grow up in this country, I never understood the obsession with prom. And I'm very confused about why parents are so eager to have it- perhaps to live out their high school days vicariously through their children? The outdoor dance/movie night with food truck options seem to be great, especially if the kids dress up for a Big Night Out.
We had balls, and they were black tie indoor/outdoor events.
I'm just genuinely perplexed about this prom obsession.

It’s a teen rite of passage in high school. Surely you can understand that even if you never went to one yourself? If you’re raising kids here get used to it.

It's honestly not that big of a deal to most people in most parts of the country. Even waaay back when I went to my prom (yes, with a date, a pack of friends, a limo, an afterparty, the whole nine yards) everyone I knew recognized the inherent lameness of this forced, cliched, plastic event. I didn't know anyone who was dying to go or who had looked forward to it since they were a young child. We went, but with lots of joking and irony at how silly the whole thing really is. But in some pockets of the country it is a VERY BIG DEAL. It is VERY IMPORTANT to go tanning and go to the spa and get an updo, etc. so that you look your VERY BEST because looking your VERY BEST is a validation of who you are. These are the same pockets of the country where child and teen pageants are still a thing and gender roles and heterosexual normativity is policed at every turn. The thing about the DMV is that people from all over the country and the world live here, so people with very different feelings about a things like the prom (or pageants, or cotillions, etc.) find themselves in the same community. Hence this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:St. Andrew's is holding an outdoor movie night (with food trucks) in lieu of a prom. Honestly, my DS thinks this sounds better than a traditional prom.

Having said that, with all the vaccines available now, it seems like a prom could be held in June. (I always wondered whey the prom had to be held so early - April seems too early to me.)

Just for the record, many of the girls at my DD's school (not SAES) hate the idea of anything this casual. They have been looking forward to having a prom since middle school.

That is kind of sad.

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+100

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who didn't grow up in this country, I never understood the obsession with prom. And I'm very confused about why parents are so eager to have it- perhaps to live out their high school days vicariously through their children? The outdoor dance/movie night with food truck options seem to be great, especially if the kids dress up for a Big Night Out.
We had balls, and they were black tie indoor/outdoor events.
I'm just genuinely perplexed about this prom obsession.

It’s a teen rite of passage in high school. Surely you can understand that even if you never went to one yourself? If you’re raising kids here get used to it.

It's honestly not that big of a deal to most people in most parts of the country. Even waaay back when I went to my prom (yes, with a date, a pack of friends, a limo, an afterparty, the whole nine yards) everyone I knew recognized the inherent lameness of this forced, cliched, plastic event. I didn't know anyone who was dying to go or who had looked forward to it since they were a young child. We went, but with lots of joking and irony at how silly the whole thing really is. But in some pockets of the country it is a VERY BIG DEAL. It is VERY IMPORTANT to go tanning and go to the spa and get an updo, etc. so that you look your VERY BEST because looking your VERY BEST is a validation of who you are. These are the same pockets of the country where child and teen pageants are still a thing and gender roles and heterosexual normativity is policed at every turn. The thing about the DMV is that people from all over the country and the world live here, so people with very different feelings about a things like the prom (or pageants, or cotillions, etc.) find themselves in the same community. Hence this thread.

Very well said. Great post.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:St. Andrew's is holding an outdoor movie night (with food trucks) in lieu of a prom. Honestly, my DS thinks this sounds better than a traditional prom.

Having said that, with all the vaccines available now, it seems like a prom could be held in June. (I always wondered whey the prom had to be held so early - April seems too early to me.)

Just for the record, many of the girls at my DD's school (not SAES) hate the idea of anything this casual. They have been looking forward to having a prom since middle school.

That is kind of sad.

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+100

More posters who were never asked to their own proms, and are still bitter about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes!!!! We’re planning one. Seniors only; no outside guests. So happy for these kids. I would hate for them to be robbed of their final prom along with everything else.

Why no outside guests? They can get a test—there have almost instant tests now. Seems unfair if your boyfriend/girlfriend is at another school.

Rapid tests aren't accurate. Even PCP tests are only helpful if you quarantine for 3-5 days before the test (since the test won't pick up recently acquired infections) and continue to quarantine until the dance. No one would do that for prom.

It's a non-issue. The kids will be vaccinated. Very excited that they are going to have a prom this year.

They will not all be vaccinated.

At best 16-18 year olds have just become eligible for pfizer (the one shot j&j is not yet available for teens). So it'll be 7 weeks until full immunity, assuming that everyone is able to get appointments immediately, which seems unlikely.

Fine. You tell your 17 or 18 year old that they cannot go to the prom this year, because mommy is waiting for herd immunity. Meanwhile, DD and I are dress shopping this weekend and she can't wait.

Are you going to buy a face mask to match her dress? Sounds fun! Honestly, I feel genuinely sorry for your child to have been raised to believe their ability to go to a prom, of all things, matters more than other people's lives. What an empty, shallow, petty, vapid, and self-absorbed worldview. There is zero chance that every senior at that prom will be able to be vaccinated in the next few weeks. There isn't even time for full immunity. A large indoor gathering during which people dance together and frequently take off their masks to drink or eat will be a super spreader event. The kids at the prom may not suffer and die horrible deaths alone in the ICU, but someone will. And maybe some new variant will have an opportunity to emerge or circulate, maybe meet some semi-vaccinated teens and evolve to evade vaccine protections. But none of that matters as long you get to take prom pictures in the backyard.

Some people have lost all sense of reason and common sense. They’ve been at home for a year, not realizing that others including schools, have figure out safe ways to host events. We have timed tickets for prom, with limited numbers at each session, refreshments on the way out the door, and indoor and outdoor spaces. Yes, we have a mask to go with the dress. Some dresses are even coming with a mask attached these days. We are able to adapt without cancelling everything. I hope PP realizes that we will never reach high vax levels or herd immunity. Shallow, petty vapid and self-absorbed is not following the science and realizing that your paranoia does not stop the world.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes!!!! We’re planning one. Seniors only; no outside guests. So happy for these kids. I would hate for them to be robbed of their final prom along with everything else.

Why no outside guests? They can get a test—there have almost instant tests now. Seems unfair if your boyfriend/girlfriend is at another school.

Rapid tests aren't accurate. Even PCP tests are only helpful if you quarantine for 3-5 days before the test (since the test won't pick up recently acquired infections) and continue to quarantine until the dance. No one would do that for prom.

It's a non-issue. The kids will be vaccinated. Very excited that they are going to have a prom this year.

They will not all be vaccinated.

At best 16-18 year olds have just become eligible for pfizer (the one shot j&j is not yet available for teens). So it'll be 7 weeks until full immunity, assuming that everyone is able to get appointments immediately, which seems unlikely.

Fine. You tell your 17 or 18 year old that they cannot go to the prom this year, because mommy is waiting for herd immunity. Meanwhile, DD and I are dress shopping this weekend and she can't wait.

Are you going to buy a face mask to match her dress? Sounds fun! Honestly, I feel genuinely sorry for your child to have been raised to believe their ability to go to a prom, of all things, matters more than other people's lives. What an empty, shallow, petty, vapid, and self-absorbed worldview. There is zero chance that every senior at that prom will be able to be vaccinated in the next few weeks. There isn't even time for full immunity. A large indoor gathering during which people dance together and frequently take off their masks to drink or eat will be a super spreader event. The kids at the prom may not suffer and die horrible deaths alone in the ICU, but someone will. And maybe some new variant will have an opportunity to emerge or circulate, maybe meet some semi-vaccinated teens and evolve to evade vaccine protections. But none of that matters as long you get to take prom pictures in the backyard.

Oh, my precious PP, you are so wrong about that. Every. Single. Senior at my kids' DC private has been vaccinated. And they are ready to party it up and celebrate. I'm sorry that you are so focused on this mythical "someone" who WILL "suffer and die a horrible death alone in the ICU" (wow - are you a drama writer on the side?) - you do realize, that DC has had zero deaths in the last 3-4 days, right? The facts do not coincide with your distorted thinking on reality.

Congrats to the Class of '21 and enjoy every moment of your prom. You've earned it!

They've "earned" it? It's almost like a parody of entitlement. Is this comment intended to be satirical?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes!!!! We’re planning one. Seniors only; no outside guests. So happy for these kids. I would hate for them to be robbed of their final prom along with everything else.

Why no outside guests? They can get a test—there have almost instant tests now. Seems unfair if your boyfriend/girlfriend is at another school.

Rapid tests aren't accurate. Even PCP tests are only helpful if you quarantine for 3-5 days before the test (since the test won't pick up recently acquired infections) and continue to quarantine until the dance. No one would do that for prom.

It's a non-issue. The kids will be vaccinated. Very excited that they are going to have a prom this year.

They will not all be vaccinated.

At best 16-18 year olds have just become eligible for pfizer (the one shot j&j is not yet available for teens). So it'll be 7 weeks until full immunity, assuming that everyone is able to get appointments immediately, which seems unlikely.

Fine. You tell your 17 or 18 year old that they cannot go to the prom this year, because mommy is waiting for herd immunity. Meanwhile, DD and I are dress shopping this weekend and she can't wait.

Are you going to buy a face mask to match her dress? Sounds fun! Honestly, I feel genuinely sorry for your child to have been raised to believe their ability to go to a prom, of all things, matters more than other people's lives. What an empty, shallow, petty, vapid, and self-absorbed worldview. There is zero chance that every senior at that prom will be able to be vaccinated in the next few weeks. There isn't even time for full immunity. A large indoor gathering during which people dance together and frequently take off their masks to drink or eat will be a super spreader event. The kids at the prom may not suffer and die horrible deaths alone in the ICU, but someone will. And maybe some new variant will have an opportunity to emerge or circulate, maybe meet some semi-vaccinated teens and evolve to evade vaccine protections. But none of that matters as long you get to take prom pictures in the backyard.

Oh, my precious PP, you are so wrong about that. Every. Single. Senior at my kids' DC private has been vaccinated. And they are ready to party it up and celebrate. I'm sorry that you are so focused on this mythical "someone" who WILL "suffer and die a horrible death alone in the ICU" (wow - are you a drama writer on the side?) - you do realize, that DC has had zero deaths in the last 3-4 days, right? The facts do not coincide with your distorted thinking on reality.

Congrats to the Class of '21 and enjoy every moment of your prom. You've earned it!

They've "earned" it? It's almost like a parody of entitlement. Is this comment intended to be satirical?

Not at all. These students have made it through a horrific year like no other, made worse for them because of a constellation of bad decisions made by administrators and government bureaucrats who have anything but their best interests at heart. They have been robbed of a year of growth, development and maturity that comes with interacting with their peers at all levels - academic, social, spiritual, athletics, etc. Yes, they have "earned" the right to party it up at the prom.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes!!!! We’re planning one. Seniors only; no outside guests. So happy for these kids. I would hate for them to be robbed of their final prom along with everything else.

Why no outside guests? They can get a test—there have almost instant tests now. Seems unfair if your boyfriend/girlfriend is at another school.

Rapid tests aren't accurate. Even PCP tests are only helpful if you quarantine for 3-5 days before the test (since the test won't pick up recently acquired infections) and continue to quarantine until the dance. No one would do that for prom.

It's a non-issue. The kids will be vaccinated. Very excited that they are going to have a prom this year.

They will not all be vaccinated.

At best 16-18 year olds have just become eligible for pfizer (the one shot j&j is not yet available for teens). So it'll be 7 weeks until full immunity, assuming that everyone is able to get appointments immediately, which seems unlikely.

Fine. You tell your 17 or 18 year old that they cannot go to the prom this year, because mommy is waiting for herd immunity. Meanwhile, DD and I are dress shopping this weekend and she can't wait.

Are you going to buy a face mask to match her dress? Sounds fun! Honestly, I feel genuinely sorry for your child to have been raised to believe their ability to go to a prom, of all things, matters more than other people's lives. What an empty, shallow, petty, vapid, and self-absorbed worldview. There is zero chance that every senior at that prom will be able to be vaccinated in the next few weeks. There isn't even time for full immunity. A large indoor gathering during which people dance together and frequently take off their masks to drink or eat will be a super spreader event. The kids at the prom may not suffer and die horrible deaths alone in the ICU, but someone will. And maybe some new variant will have an opportunity to emerge or circulate, maybe meet some semi-vaccinated teens and evolve to evade vaccine protections. But none of that matters as long you get to take prom pictures in the backyard.

Oh, my precious PP, you are so wrong about that. Every. Single. Senior at my kids' DC private has been vaccinated. And they are ready to party it up and celebrate. I'm sorry that you are so focused on this mythical "someone" who WILL "suffer and die a horrible death alone in the ICU" (wow - are you a drama writer on the side?) - you do realize, that DC has had zero deaths in the last 3-4 days, right? The facts do not coincide with your distorted thinking on reality.

Congrats to the Class of '21 and enjoy every moment of your prom. You've earned it!

They've "earned" it? It's almost like a parody of entitlement. Is this comment intended to be satirical?

Not at all. These students have made it through a horrific year like no other, made worse for them because of a constellation of bad decisions made by administrators and government bureaucrats who have anything but their best interests at heart. They have been robbed of a year of growth, development and maturity that comes with interacting with their peers at all levels - academic, social, spiritual, athletics, etc. Yes, they have "earned" the right to party it up at the prom.

Wow. They made it through a "horrific" year where the government prioritized keeping elderly and infirm people alive over your child's soccer practice? Oh the humanity. They weren't allowed to grow this year because they had to wear a face mask? It's almost like the world doesn't understand WHO YOU ARE. Did you at least try contacting the manger about all of this massive injustice?

Meanwhile, this young man in India had to choose between trying frantically to find oxygen for his father dying in a hospital (which he could not do) or rushing home to try to help his mother dying at home. But, tell me more about how your child's development suffered because she could only see 2/3rd of their faces when they chatted at school this year. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/30/world/asia/india-coronavirus-family.html

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I think PPs kid has earned the right to party. Sheesh, get a grip.