Handmaid’s Tale season 4

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t read the thread because I haven’t caught up, I am in the prison, but I’m would just like to complain that this storyline about making June “talk” makes no sense. They have surely been moved. The whole point of the secret network is that she has no one else to give up.

I have now finished and I am still mad about this. And about Nick. The Bradley Whitford storyline is dumb, I’m sorry. They’re going to have to be more specific about “needing” him for me to buy any of it.

But mostly I am mad about the hand maids still being in the same place. It just makes no sense!! They would know that they would be better off hiding in the woods or idk but there’s no way anyone involved, including them, would have used that safe house. It’s madness. It’s distractingly bad writing.

I feel like I just watched a bunch of uncomfortable torture only to have the plot line be so bad that I am just mad about the nightmares I’m going to have and I didn’t even get to enjoy the show because I was thinking the whole time how silly it was. They could have thought of something else - a commander she knows is secretly Mayday, whatever. Anything but “where are the hand maids” because that makes no sense.

Commander Lawrence was crucial to planning Gilead. There are not a lot of Big Thinkers in Gilead, and presumably they need him to help plan and troubleshoot their next moves now that they have multiple war fronts and the crises in Canada.

The handmaids had moved on to the second farmhouse, which would have been secure had June not given them up. They trusted her completely, so hiding in that basement was in theory much safer than wandering around the countryside looking for someplace to hide several people. Where else could they have gone, unnoticed? Not to mention that June had been the one calling all the shots since before the airlift. They were without leadership. The handmaids are more crucial to the success of Gilead than ever since so many children were removed; they are Gilead’s most valuable resource, so it doesn’t surprise me that June was tortured until she gave them up. On a related note, the guard who killed the handmaids is certainly not long for this world.

Commander Lawrence stole 89 children! Wtf kind of “big thinking” is he doing for them? I’d like to see the powerpoints that got him out of execution in that scenario.

Alma and Janine are not idiots, and neither is the Commander who owns the farm house. Everyone talks under torture. They would move immediately even at huge risk.

I agree, but think they had no way of knowing June was captured.

A person who goes on a mission is presumed captured if they do not return as scheduled. A captive is presumed to be going to break and talk.

They should have hot footed it out of there.

These aren’t trained soldiers making these decisions- they’re a bunch of traumatized escapees with no safe place to go in the New England cold.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t read the thread because I haven’t caught up, I am in the prison, but I’m would just like to complain that this storyline about making June “talk” makes no sense. They have surely been moved. The whole point of the secret network is that she has no one else to give up.

I have now finished and I am still mad about this. And about Nick. The Bradley Whitford storyline is dumb, I’m sorry. They’re going to have to be more specific about “needing” him for me to buy any of it.

But mostly I am mad about the hand maids still being in the same place. It just makes no sense!! They would know that they would be better off hiding in the woods or idk but there’s no way anyone involved, including them, would have used that safe house. It’s madness. It’s distractingly bad writing.

I feel like I just watched a bunch of uncomfortable torture only to have the plot line be so bad that I am just mad about the nightmares I’m going to have and I didn’t even get to enjoy the show because I was thinking the whole time how silly it was. They could have thought of something else - a commander she knows is secretly Mayday, whatever. Anything but “where are the hand maids” because that makes no sense.

Commander Lawrence was crucial to planning Gilead. There are not a lot of Big Thinkers in Gilead, and presumably they need him to help plan and troubleshoot their next moves now that they have multiple war fronts and the crises in Canada.

The handmaids had moved on to the second farmhouse, which would have been secure had June not given them up. They trusted her completely, so hiding in that basement was in theory much safer than wandering around the countryside looking for someplace to hide several people. Where else could they have gone, unnoticed? Not to mention that June had been the one calling all the shots since before the airlift. They were without leadership. The handmaids are more crucial to the success of Gilead than ever since so many children were removed; they are Gilead’s most valuable resource, so it doesn’t surprise me that June was tortured until she gave them up. On a related note, the guard who killed the handmaids is certainly not long for this world.

Commander Lawrence stole 89 children! Wtf kind of “big thinking” is he doing for them? I’d like to see the powerpoints that got him out of execution in that scenario.

Alma and Janine are not idiots, and neither is the Commander who owns the farm house. Everyone talks under torture. They would move immediately even at huge risk.

I agree, but think they had no way of knowing June was captured.

Yeah, what? Of course they knew she was captured.

They were in different locations at that point. June was still at the Keyes farm, and they had moved to the other safe house. Do we know how much time elapsed between her capture and theirs?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t read the thread because I haven’t caught up, I am in the prison, but I’m would just like to complain that this storyline about making June “talk” makes no sense. They have surely been moved. The whole point of the secret network is that she has no one else to give up.

I have now finished and I am still mad about this. And about Nick. The Bradley Whitford storyline is dumb, I’m sorry. They’re going to have to be more specific about “needing” him for me to buy any of it.

But mostly I am mad about the hand maids still being in the same place. It just makes no sense!! They would know that they would be better off hiding in the woods or idk but there’s no way anyone involved, including them, would have used that safe house. It’s madness. It’s distractingly bad writing.

I feel like I just watched a bunch of uncomfortable torture only to have the plot line be so bad that I am just mad about the nightmares I’m going to have and I didn’t even get to enjoy the show because I was thinking the whole time how silly it was. They could have thought of something else - a commander she knows is secretly Mayday, whatever. Anything but “where are the hand maids” because that makes no sense.

Commander Lawrence was crucial to planning Gilead. There are not a lot of Big Thinkers in Gilead, and presumably they need him to help plan and troubleshoot their next moves now that they have multiple war fronts and the crises in Canada.

The handmaids had moved on to the second farmhouse, which would have been secure had June not given them up. They trusted her completely, so hiding in that basement was in theory much safer than wandering around the countryside looking for someplace to hide several people. Where else could they have gone, unnoticed? Not to mention that June had been the one calling all the shots since before the airlift. They were without leadership. The handmaids are more crucial to the success of Gilead than ever since so many children were removed; they are Gilead’s most valuable resource, so it doesn’t surprise me that June was tortured until she gave them up. On a related note, the guard who killed the handmaids is certainly not long for this world.

Commander Lawrence stole 89 children! Wtf kind of “big thinking” is he doing for them? I’d like to see the powerpoints that got him out of execution in that scenario.

Alma and Janine are not idiots, and neither is the Commander who owns the farm house. Everyone talks under torture. They would move immediately even at huge risk.

I agree, but think they had no way of knowing June was captured.

Yeah, what? Of course they knew she was captured.

They were in different locations at that point. June was still at the Keyes farm, and they had moved to the other safe house. Do we know how much time elapsed between her capture and theirs?

At least a few days. That’s long enough. These aren’t traumatized girls any more. They’ve been through some stuff. And they’re aided by a network that includes military-type people and Marthas with half a brain.
There was so much more they could have interrogated her about. Like, how Nick hid her pregnant self for weeks (months? I can’t remember). Like who else helped her with the kids.
It felt like the whole thing was just to get in torture porn they didn’t get in in the previous seasons I guess. It doesn’t make sense that if June were captured she would have a chance in hell of escaping again. The fact that they weren’t chained the van, even? Wtf?
It’s a great show but the writing on these episodes was disappointing just because these distracting things didn’t have to be there. Even the escape, there are so many more realistic scenarios than “the one guard went to pee.” A guard could turn and kill the others to free her, whatever.

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At least a few days. That’s long enough. These aren’t traumatized girls any more. They’ve been through some stuff. And they’re aided by a network that includes military-type people and Marthas with half a brain.
There was so much more they could have interrogated her about. Like, how Nick hid her pregnant self for weeks (months? I can’t remember). Like who else helped her with the kids.
It felt like the whole thing was just to get in torture porn they didn’t get in in the previous seasons I guess. It doesn’t make sense that if June were captured she would have a chance in hell of escaping again. The fact that they weren’t chained the van, even? Wtf?
It’s a great show but the writing on these episodes was disappointing just because these distracting things didn’t have to be there. Even the escape, there are so many more realistic scenarios than “the one guard went to pee.” A guard could turn and kill the others to free her, whatever.

All of this. Still love the show, but the recapture of the Handmaids was a real WTF moment. Alma has always been the most informed and in Boston was much more plugged into Mayday and definitely understands how things work. She should have and would have been the person talking to the Mayday contact at the second farmhouse and getting the next location. It would have been much more realistic to spend one or two minutes on a scene where Alma and Jeanine had a discussion about "where's June?", assuming she was captured and then lamenting that Mayday was unable to find them an onward location.

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At least a few days. That’s long enough. These aren’t traumatized girls any more. They’ve been through some stuff. And they’re aided by a network that includes military-type people and Marthas with half a brain.
There was so much more they could have interrogated her about. Like, how Nick hid her pregnant self for weeks (months? I can’t remember). Like who else helped her with the kids.
It felt like the whole thing was just to get in torture porn they didn’t get in in the previous seasons I guess. It doesn’t make sense that if June were captured she would have a chance in hell of escaping again. The fact that they weren’t chained the van, even? Wtf?
It’s a great show but the writing on these episodes was disappointing just because these distracting things didn’t have to be there. Even the escape, there are so many more realistic scenarios than “the one guard went to pee.” A guard could turn and kill the others to free her, whatever.

All of this. Still love the show, but the recapture of the Handmaids was a real WTF moment. Alma has always been the most informed and in Boston was much more plugged into Mayday and definitely understands how things work. She should have and would have been the person talking to the Mayday contact at the second farmhouse and getting the next location. It would have been much more realistic to spend one or two minutes on a scene where Alma and Jeanine had a discussion about "where's June?", assuming she was captured and then lamenting that Mayday was unable to find them an onward location.

Yes, agreed.

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Only seen thru episode 2 of this current season. Thoughts so far:

- June went from a gangrenous wound essentially to walking about just fine. I know she was nurses, but it was briefly. We see her putting a salve on her abdomen and there is a hole in her stomach. From then on she has no wound issues.

- not really liking this season so far. The best friend in Canada seems resentful she’s picking up June’s mess- but that’s her job, literally. And how is she trained to help kids?

- I didn’t like the farmer’s wife (who is poisoning her husband) - she is sympathetic to June, wants to kill men...but then made the girl with the poked out eye eat the pig.

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What happened to Mrs Keyes after the raid?

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to Mrs Keyes after the raid?

I believe they said she was “safe in custody” so presumably punishment.

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Anonymous wrote:Only seen thru episode 2 of this current season. Thoughts so far:

- June went from a gangrenous wound essentially to walking about just fine. I know she was nurses, but it was briefly. We see her putting a salve on her abdomen and there is a hole in her stomach. From then on she has no wound issues.

- not really liking this season so far. The best friend in Canada seems resentful she’s picking up June’s mess- but that’s her job, literally. And how is she trained to help kids?

- I didn’t like the farmer’s wife (who is poisoning her husband) - she is sympathetic to June, wants to kill men...but then made the girl with the poked out eye eat the pig.

I think there was a 1-month time jump, pretty sure June said something about being sick in her room that long in a voiceover.

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Commander Lawrence stole 89 children! Wtf kind of “big thinking” is he doing for them? I’d like to see the powerpoints that got him out of execution in that scenario.

Alma and Janine are not idiots, and neither is the Commander who owns the farm house. Everyone talks under torture. They would move immediately even at huge risk.

Totally agree with this. If I were in charge of Gilead, Joseph Lawrence and June would be executed, end of story. And since they aren’t, I’d like to see those PowerPoints that got them both off the hook too!!

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Alma!!!

I’m loving this season so far. It’s not perfect and they’re many leaps of faith but it’s better than pretty much anything on TV now.

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Loving it!

Elisabeth Moss looks like she gained weight. I guess the “covid 19 pounds” hits everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Alma!!!

I’m loving this season so far. It’s not perfect and they’re many leaps of faith but it’s better than pretty much anything on TV now.

Pretty much this.

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Anonymous wrote:Loving it!

Elisabeth Moss looks like she gained weight. I guess the “covid 19 pounds” hits everyone.

idk she's never been skinny. She was mostly covered up but when she was strapped on the table she looked the same to me.

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Commander Lawrence stole 89 children! Wtf kind of “big thinking” is he doing for them? I’d like to see the powerpoints that got him out of execution in that scenario.

Alma and Janine are not idiots, and neither is the Commander who owns the farm house. Everyone talks under torture. They would move immediately even at huge risk.

Totally agree with this. If I were in charge of Gilead, Joseph Lawrence and June would be executed, end of story. And since they aren’t, I’d like to see those PowerPoints that got them both off the hook too!!

I know he was saved before the poisoning but he said to June at the dinner table they need him. Something like 6 commanders were in the hospital and 9 dead from the bad alcohol at the party.