Similarities between trump and hitler

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, those of you making this comparison.... are you ignorant? Or, dimwitted? Or, are you a Holocaust denier?

No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance.

Criticizing the president is an all-American pastime, and a First Amendment right. That should not stop.

But those who resort to dimwitted Hitler references to denounce Trump embarrass themselves. Additionally, repeat a lie often enough and people begin to believe it. In a volatile age, no one knows where that might lead.

Yet the worst sin one commits with Trump-Nazi references is cheapening and trivializing the ghastly horror of Hitler’s “Final Solution” — the systematic, industrial-scale dehumanization and butchery of millions of people, the worst crime against humanity the modern world has ever seen. In case you’ve forgotten or don’t know what that is, check out the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum website.

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

It's especially horrible for those of us who had a grandparent who was a survivor of Hitler.

These Democrats insult the memory of all those who perished under Hitler's "final solution" by making such disgusting comparisons. Shameful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and post them. This https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1150160001 and Charlottesville seem like good examples.

Hitler hates Jews; Dems hate Jews
Hitler squashed free speech; Dems squash free speech
Hitler took all the guns; Dems want to take away all the guns
Hitler destroyed political opposition; Dems want to destroy political opposition

Well, I came on here to do similarities between Hitler and trump but all the similarities lie with Hitler and democrats.

Not true.
Trump is revoking press passes as we speak.
Most Dems don’t.
The GOP systematically tries to cut down Ds. Gerrymandering. Removing governor powers for incoming D governor. Etc. etc.

You are projecting, methinks.

Dp here. I live in a congressional district gerrymandered by the same Democrats who stoically brought H.R. 1 to the House floor. Farce.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Anonymous]

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Good one. Now how do you feel about trump laughing about shooting migrants?

Legal or illegal?

[Anonymous]

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Good one. Now how do you feel about trump laughing about shooting migrants?

Legal or illegal?

DP. Unless somebody has 100% Native American genes, everybody else is legal or illegal immigrant in the U.S. of A. He didn't say whether he would shoot a legal or illegal immigrant:

https://youtu.be/iTACH1eVIaA

Donald Trump makes a comment about his current momentum at a campaign stop in Sioux City, Iowa on Saturday.

"You know what else they say about my people? The polls, they say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s like incredible," Trump said.

[Anonymous]

He is an effing moron and so is anyone who supports him.

You are on your way out Dumpsters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and post them. This https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1150160001 and Charlottesville seem like good examples.

Hitler hates Jews; Dems hate Jews
Hitler squashed free speech; Dems squash free speech
Hitler took all the guns; Dems want to take away all the guns
Hitler destroyed political opposition; Dems want to destroy political opposition

Well, I came on here to do similarities between Hitler and trump but all the similarities lie with Hitler and democrats.

Not true.
Trump is revoking press passes as we speak.
Most Dems don’t.
The GOP systematically tries to cut down Ds. Gerrymandering. Removing governor powers for incoming D governor. Etc. etc.

You are projecting, methinks.

Dp here. I live in a congressional district gerrymandered by the same Democrats who stoically brought H.R. 1 to the House floor. Farce.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I didn't see the democrats exempting Maryland from HR1.

It is an issue in Maryland as well as other states. They should all be corrected. But the GOP measures are more than extreme.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an absolutely insulting and disgusting thread and should be deleted.

We all wish it weren't true, but sadly it is, and the comparison is justified. You're thinking about gas chambers and killing 6 million Jews. We haven't come to that, and probably won't, but Nazi propaganda started in exactly the same way the Trump administration is talking about Mexicans, Muslims, and other groups today. We are talking about a similar direction, and that in itself is dangerous.

I’ll be sure to let the folks who still bear Nazi tattoos that you feel their suffering is being used to trash someone you don’t like

I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been deleted. Actually, I can believe it. Unreal.

I agree with you.

It is shocking that this thread is still up. Beyond. Horrible. Rest in peace to the victims of the holocaust, there are many who will not let your memory and your suffering be forgotten or trivialized by sickos who want to reduce your hellish pain and torture to nothing...who want to use it as a cynical political tactic to scare the uneducated and ignorant. Shame on the OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an absolutely insulting and disgusting thread and should be deleted.

We all wish it weren't true, but sadly it is, and the comparison is justified. You're thinking about gas chambers and killing 6 million Jews. We haven't come to that, and probably won't, but Nazi propaganda started in exactly the same way the Trump administration is talking about Mexicans, Muslims, and other groups today. We are talking about a similar direction, and that in itself is dangerous.

I’ll be sure to let the folks who still bear Nazi tattoos that you feel their suffering is being used to trash someone you don’t like

I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been deleted. Actually, I can believe it. Unreal.

I agree with you.

It is shocking that this thread is still up. Beyond. Horrible. Rest in peace to the victims of the holocaust, there are many who will not let your memory and your suffering be forgotten or trivialized by sickos who want to reduce your hellish pain and torture to nothing...who want to use it as a cynical political tactic to scare the uneducated and ignorant. Shame on the OP.

Can we send you a box of smelling salts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an absolutely insulting and disgusting thread and should be deleted.

We all wish it weren't true, but sadly it is, and the comparison is justified. You're thinking about gas chambers and killing 6 million Jews. We haven't come to that, and probably won't, but Nazi propaganda started in exactly the same way the Trump administration is talking about Mexicans, Muslims, and other groups today. We are talking about a similar direction, and that in itself is dangerous.

I’ll be sure to let the folks who still bear Nazi tattoos that you feel their suffering is being used to trash someone you don’t like

I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been deleted. Actually, I can believe it. Unreal.

I agree with you.

It is shocking that this thread is still up. Beyond. Horrible. Rest in peace to the victims of the holocaust, there are many who will not let your memory and your suffering be forgotten or trivialized by sickos who want to reduce your hellish pain and torture to nothing...who want to use it as a cynical political tactic to scare the uneducated and ignorant. Shame on the OP.

I guess you missed all of the essays from the past year of Holocaust survivors who have written exactly that this era is reminicent of their childhoods, and not in a good way. Try the google machine and stuff the faux outrage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, those of you making this comparison.... are you ignorant? Or, dimwitted? Or, are you a Holocaust denier?

No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance.

Criticizing the president is an all-American pastime, and a First Amendment right. That should not stop.

But those who resort to dimwitted Hitler references to denounce Trump embarrass themselves. Additionally, repeat a lie often enough and people begin to believe it. In a volatile age, no one knows where that might lead.

Yet the worst sin one commits with Trump-Nazi references is cheapening and trivializing the ghastly horror of Hitler’s “Final Solution” — the systematic, industrial-scale dehumanization and butchery of millions of people, the worst crime against humanity the modern world has ever seen. In case you’ve forgotten or don’t know what that is, check out the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum website.

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

It's especially horrible for those of us who had a grandparent who was a survivor of Hitler.

These Democrats insult the memory of all those who perished under Hitler's "final solution" by making such disgusting comparisons. Shameful.

There are a lot of those who survived Hitler’s “Final Solution” who are making the comparisons.


Tahoe Holocaust survivor: Trump administration actions starting to resemble Hitler’s Germany
https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/opinion/tahoe-holocaust-survivor-trump-administration-actions-starting-to-resemble-hitlers-germany-opinion/

Bernard Marks, the Holocaust survivor whose comparison of the Trump administration’s hardline stance on refugees and undocumented immigrants to Nazi regime received widespread attention, died Friday. He was 89.
https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article223718330.html

'I'M A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR—TRUMP'S AMERICA FEELS LIKE GERMANY BEFORE NAZIS TOOK OVER'
https://www.newsweek.com/im-holocaust-survivor-trumps-america-feels-germany-nazis-took-over-876965

“Separation of the family, for us, is probably the worst thing that ever happened to us,” says Hidden Child Foundation Co-Director Rachelle Goldstein in the ADL video, noting that when children were in hiding during the Holocaust, they were often hiding in a separate location from their parents and siblings, on their own.
https://www.haaretz.com/whdcMobileSite/us-news/.premium-jews-clash-as-shoah-comparisons-for-trump-detention-centers-rise-1.6196346

A Dallas Holocaust survivor sees his reflection in the faces of children separated from their parents
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/19/dallas-holocaust-survivorsees-reflection-faces-children-separated-parents

What My Escape From Hitler’s Germany Taught Me About Trump’s America: ”To those who say that comparisons of Trump’s presidency to Nazi Germany are hyperbolic, I say try telling that to the mothers whose infants have been torn from their arms. A president responsible for such an atrocity exposes a level of cruelty that has no limits. None.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/escape-hitlers-germany-taught-trumps-america/

”I began my life with the Nazis, and now I may end my life with the Nazis,” the painter Vera Klement, an 86-year-old survivor of the Holocaust, said. It was election night in America, and as Vera and I sat in front of her TV and watched President-elect Donald J. Trump take the stage to the strains of the Air Force One soundtrack, she exhibited little shock, but rather a horrible, quiet awe.”
https://prospect.org/article/begin-again-trump-through-eyes-holocaust-survivor

"No matter what kind of outrageous things came out of his mouth, the people waved their hands and loudly cheered 'Hurrah!' " he told me, his eyes growing more serious "I have seen that before — in Nazi Germany in 1933."
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/opinion/ct-abn-crosby-holocaust-st-1021-20161021-column.html

”I asked my father, a Holocaust survivor, what he thought about the comparisons many have made between Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler. “Not only has my concern not dissipated, it’s grown much stronger,” my dad, Zeev, told me from his home in Tel Aviv. “I don’t believe another Holocaust is imminent. But it’s hard to ignore the similarities between Trump and Hitler.”
https://www.thewrap.com/holocaust-survivor-father-feels-president-trump/

”Knoblauch survived as a virtual slave, barely eluding the regular roundups for the Final Solution. Lies, Knoblauch tells the kids. Lies and propaganda, used masterfully by the likes of Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels to smear the Jews as the source of all of Germany’s ills.
“Today, the same lies are being used against other people than the Jews,” he says to the students. “And repeated continuously.”
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-immigration-issue-trumps-dark-vision-brings-back-dire-memories-for-holocaust-survivor-9181256

”Ipson recalled how such hateful ideology almost killed him as a young boy. His family soon found themselves among 29,000 Jews in Kovno's locked ghetto, which was established after German troops occupied the town. Speaking just days after President Donald Trump's executive order barring refugees from coming to the United States from seven Muslim-majority countries, Ipson said he saw parallels between Trump's policy and the United States' refusal to allow Jewish refugees to enter the country to escape Europe during the rise of Nazi Germany.
https://www.dailypress.com/tidewater-review/news/va-tr-wp-holocaust-survivor-0208-20170208-story.html

"Are the comparisons being made between the Trump administration and Nazi Germany hyperbolic?" Dr. Henry Oster, Sole Survivor of the Holocaust from Cologne Germany, doesn't think so."
https://www.thekindnessofthehangman.com/single-post/2018/07/22/Trump-and-Hitler-Henry-speaks-out-in-popular-Thom-Hartmann-podcastvideo

This All Seems Very Familiar, Say Philly Holocaust Survivors
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/11/17/holocaust-survivors-hitler-trump/

“A reader letter left a strong impression on Suzanne La Rocque as she perused the March 19 print edition of the Sun:

A campaign characterized by bigotry and deception.
A candidate spewing venom and demagoguery at every opportunity.
A gullible electorate willing to blame minority citizens for perceived economic and social ills.
Adolf Hitler in 1933, Donald Trump in 2016. One and the same.

Jay resident Jim Haig submitted that letter in response to Donald Trump, the pugnacious real estate developer whose campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has drawn comparisons to totalitarianism due to the candidate’s rallies, which are being marred by physical confrontation and inflammatory rhetoric.

La Rocque responded with her own handwritten letter, which appears in this week’s edition. The North Creek resident called Haig’s perspective “a very fine observation.” “I am 89-years-old and an immigrant from Europe who lived with the horrors of the 1930’s and 40’s,” La Rocque wrote. “I still have the scars Hitler forced on us.”
https://www.suncommunitynews.com/articles/the-sun/local-wwii-survivor-recounts-parallels-between-fascism-trump/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So interesting how OP and the other hysterics chose to leave this part out:
“We need to defend our country. You have people pouring in," he told Hannity. "Now, we're capturing these people, we're getting them. But we don't do like other countries. Other countries stand there with machine guns ready to fire. We can't do that, and I wouldn't want to do that."

Honestly, this is a disgusting thread and I can’t believe it hasn’t been deleted.

And he talks about how it would be more effective to shoot them. But we can't give border patrol guns. People wont let him.

I will completely acknowledge he's giving himself cover while encouraging the crazies to shoot immigrants.

You are crazy. He actually says: "We can't do that, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT." It's scary how you people take his words and twist them into something he did not say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So interesting how OP and the other hysterics chose to leave this part out:
“We need to defend our country. You have people pouring in," he told Hannity. "Now, we're capturing these people, we're getting them. But we don't do like other countries. Other countries stand there with machine guns ready to fire. We can't do that, and I wouldn't want to do that."

Honestly, this is a disgusting thread and I can’t believe it hasn’t been deleted.

And he talks about how it would be more effective to shoot them. But we can't give border patrol guns. People wont let him.

I will completely acknowledge he's giving himself cover while encouraging the crazies to shoot immigrants.

You are crazy. He actually says: "We can't do that, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT." It's scary how you people take his words and twist them into something he did not say.

It’s a trial balloon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He is an effing moron and so is anyone who supports him.

You are on your way out Dumpsters.

Bookmarking this post to trot out when liberals are gnashing their teeth (again) and marching in the streets (again). See you in 2020!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So, those of you making this comparison.... are you ignorant? Or, dimwitted? Or, are you a Holocaust denier?

No matter how much you may dislike or disagree with Trump, the warped practice of casually comparing him and other U.S. officials to the ruthless, merciless ghouls who executed 6 million souls and tortured and persecuted countless more simply for being Jewish or something else they despised is a disgrace and demonstrates massive, willful historical ignorance.

Criticizing the president is an all-American pastime, and a First Amendment right. That should not stop.

But those who resort to dimwitted Hitler references to denounce Trump embarrass themselves. Additionally, repeat a lie often enough and people begin to believe it. In a volatile age, no one knows where that might lead.

Yet the worst sin one commits with Trump-Nazi references is cheapening and trivializing the ghastly horror of Hitler’s “Final Solution” — the systematic, industrial-scale dehumanization and butchery of millions of people, the worst crime against humanity the modern world has ever seen. In case you’ve forgotten or don’t know what that is, check out the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum website.

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20180714/comparing-trump-to-hitler-is-disgrace

It's especially horrible for those of us who had a grandparent who was a survivor of Hitler.

These Democrats insult the memory of all those who perished under Hitler's "final solution" by making such disgusting comparisons. Shameful.

There are a lot of those who survived Hitler’s “Final Solution” who are making the comparisons.


Tahoe Holocaust survivor: Trump administration actions starting to resemble Hitler’s Germany
https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/opinion/tahoe-holocaust-survivor-trump-administration-actions-starting-to-resemble-hitlers-germany-opinion/

Bernard Marks, the Holocaust survivor whose comparison of the Trump administration’s hardline stance on refugees and undocumented immigrants to Nazi regime received widespread attention, died Friday. He was 89.
https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article223718330.html

'I'M A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR—TRUMP'S AMERICA FEELS LIKE GERMANY BEFORE NAZIS TOOK OVER'
https://www.newsweek.com/im-holocaust-survivor-trumps-america-feels-germany-nazis-took-over-876965

“Separation of the family, for us, is probably the worst thing that ever happened to us,” says Hidden Child Foundation Co-Director Rachelle Goldstein in the ADL video, noting that when children were in hiding during the Holocaust, they were often hiding in a separate location from their parents and siblings, on their own.
https://www.haaretz.com/whdcMobileSite/us-news/.premium-jews-clash-as-shoah-comparisons-for-trump-detention-centers-rise-1.6196346

A Dallas Holocaust survivor sees his reflection in the faces of children separated from their parents
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/19/dallas-holocaust-survivorsees-reflection-faces-children-separated-parents

What My Escape From Hitler’s Germany Taught Me About Trump’s America: ”To those who say that comparisons of Trump’s presidency to Nazi Germany are hyperbolic, I say try telling that to the mothers whose infants have been torn from their arms. A president responsible for such an atrocity exposes a level of cruelty that has no limits. None.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/escape-hitlers-germany-taught-trumps-america/

”I began my life with the Nazis, and now I may end my life with the Nazis,” the painter Vera Klement, an 86-year-old survivor of the Holocaust, said. It was election night in America, and as Vera and I sat in front of her TV and watched President-elect Donald J. Trump take the stage to the strains of the Air Force One soundtrack, she exhibited little shock, but rather a horrible, quiet awe.”
https://prospect.org/article/begin-again-trump-through-eyes-holocaust-survivor

"No matter what kind of outrageous things came out of his mouth, the people waved their hands and loudly cheered 'Hurrah!' " he told me, his eyes growing more serious "I have seen that before — in Nazi Germany in 1933."
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/opinion/ct-abn-crosby-holocaust-st-1021-20161021-column.html

”I asked my father, a Holocaust survivor, what he thought about the comparisons many have made between Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler. “Not only has my concern not dissipated, it’s grown much stronger,” my dad, Zeev, told me from his home in Tel Aviv. “I don’t believe another Holocaust is imminent. But it’s hard to ignore the similarities between Trump and Hitler.”
https://www.thewrap.com/holocaust-survivor-father-feels-president-trump/

”Knoblauch survived as a virtual slave, barely eluding the regular roundups for the Final Solution. Lies, Knoblauch tells the kids. Lies and propaganda, used masterfully by the likes of Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels to smear the Jews as the source of all of Germany’s ills.
“Today, the same lies are being used against other people than the Jews,” he says to the students. “And repeated continuously.”
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-immigration-issue-trumps-dark-vision-brings-back-dire-memories-for-holocaust-survivor-9181256

”Ipson recalled how such hateful ideology almost killed him as a young boy. His family soon found themselves among 29,000 Jews in Kovno's locked ghetto, which was established after German troops occupied the town. Speaking just days after President Donald Trump's executive order barring refugees from coming to the United States from seven Muslim-majority countries, Ipson said he saw parallels between Trump's policy and the United States' refusal to allow Jewish refugees to enter the country to escape Europe during the rise of Nazi Germany.
https://www.dailypress.com/tidewater-review/news/va-tr-wp-holocaust-survivor-0208-20170208-story.html

"Are the comparisons being made between the Trump administration and Nazi Germany hyperbolic?" Dr. Henry Oster, Sole Survivor of the Holocaust from Cologne Germany, doesn't think so."
https://www.thekindnessofthehangman.com/single-post/2018/07/22/Trump-and-Hitler-Henry-speaks-out-in-popular-Thom-Hartmann-podcastvideo

This All Seems Very Familiar, Say Philly Holocaust Survivors
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/11/17/holocaust-survivors-hitler-trump/

“A reader letter left a strong impression on Suzanne La Rocque as she perused the March 19 print edition of the Sun:

A campaign characterized by bigotry and deception.
A candidate spewing venom and demagoguery at every opportunity.
A gullible electorate willing to blame minority citizens for perceived economic and social ills.
Adolf Hitler in 1933, Donald Trump in 2016. One and the same.

Jay resident Jim Haig submitted that letter in response to Donald Trump, the pugnacious real estate developer whose campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has drawn comparisons to totalitarianism due to the candidate’s rallies, which are being marred by physical confrontation and inflammatory rhetoric.

La Rocque responded with her own handwritten letter, which appears in this week’s edition. The North Creek resident called Haig’s perspective “a very fine observation.” “I am 89-years-old and an immigrant from Europe who lived with the horrors of the 1930’s and 40’s,” La Rocque wrote. “I still have the scars Hitler forced on us.”
https://www.suncommunitynews.com/articles/the-sun/local-wwii-survivor-recounts-parallels-between-fascism-trump/

I don't know why your Mother didn't love you enough but your insanity and lack of intelligence may have been a huge part of it. I am simultaneously embarrassed for you and disgusted by you. Keep it up though and you'll get Trump reelected.

I assume you’re addressing this to the Holocaust survivors whose words these are? That’s not very respectful of you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an absolutely insulting and disgusting thread and should be deleted.

We all wish it weren't true, but sadly it is, and the comparison is justified. You're thinking about gas chambers and killing 6 million Jews. We haven't come to that, and probably won't, but Nazi propaganda started in exactly the same way the Trump administration is talking about Mexicans, Muslims, and other groups today. We are talking about a similar direction, and that in itself is dangerous.

I’ll be sure to let the folks who still bear Nazi tattoos that you feel their suffering is being used to trash someone you don’t like

I can’t believe this thread hasn’t been deleted. Actually, I can believe it. Unreal.

I agree with you.

It is shocking that this thread is still up. Beyond. Horrible. Rest in peace to the victims of the holocaust, there are many who will not let your memory and your suffering be forgotten or trivialized by sickos who want to reduce your hellish pain and torture to nothing...who want to use it as a cynical political tactic to scare the uneducated and ignorant. Shame on the OP.

Can we send you a box of smelling salts?

On the contrary, perhaps you, the OP, and the other hysterics insisting that there are actually similarities between Trump and Hitler, or that the sky is constantly falling, could use a generous helping of smelling salts. The constant outrage and gross hyperbole is astounding, but so predictable.
-DP