Paying DC youth not to murder

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

Personal anecdotes about which cities have the worst drivers are about as useful as anecdotes about which states have the hottest women or which have the nicest people. Just look at the actual traffic statistics. The streets of DC are extremely safe.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

Personal anecdotes about which cities have the worst drivers are about as useful as anecdotes about which states have the hottest women or which have the nicest people. Just look at the actual traffic statistics. The streets of DC are extremely safe.

So what's your point? There should be less enforcement for violations bc the violations aren't leading to traffic deaths? Where are you going with this?

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Anonymous wrote:How about paying.....for college or other ways to get out of poverty?

Because poverty is not a cause of murder.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

DP.. there were 46 traffic related fatalities in DC last year. That doesn't sound "incredibly rare."

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Anonymous wrote:How about paying.....for college or other ways to get out of poverty?

Because poverty is not a cause of murder.

Poverty is a significant driver of crime, including murder.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

DP.. there were 46 traffic related fatalities in DC last year. That doesn't sound "incredibly rare."

Out of billions of trips? There were also 171 homicides last year. Would you say its commonplalce for people to be murdered?

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

Personal anecdotes about which cities have the worst drivers are about as useful as anecdotes about which states have the hottest women or which have the nicest people. Just look at the actual traffic statistics. The streets of DC are extremely safe.

So what's your point? There should be less enforcement for violations bc the violations aren't leading to traffic deaths? Where are you going with this?

I think the point was that DC is happy to throw the book at drivers for even minor violations but searches for reasons not to punish violent crime, which is not just weird but also what led to Trump getting involved in crime enforcement in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

Personal anecdotes about which cities have the worst drivers are about as useful as anecdotes about which states have the hottest women or which have the nicest people. Just look at the actual traffic statistics. The streets of DC are extremely safe.

In terms of traffic, DC is safer than Texas and Oklahoma but significantly less safe than a lot of other communities.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

Personal anecdotes about which cities have the worst drivers are about as useful as anecdotes about which states have the hottest women or which have the nicest people. Just look at the actual traffic statistics. The streets of DC are extremely safe.

So f'n transparent with your deflections.

Stop your whining and bullshitting, stop running red lights, stop your speeding and pay your damn tickets.

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Why not pay them to be in jail

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

Personal anecdotes about which cities have the worst drivers are about as useful as anecdotes about which states have the hottest women or which have the nicest people. Just look at the actual traffic statistics. The streets of DC are extremely safe.

So f'n transparent with your deflections.

Stop your whining and bullshitting, stop running red lights, stop your speeding and pay your damn tickets.

Samesies for violent crimes?

[Anonymous]

Build more jails. Install more cameras. Round the Hillary Clinton super predators up.

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Anonymous wrote:How about paying.....for college or other ways to get out of poverty?

Because poverty is not a cause of murder.

Poverty is a significant driver of crime, including murder.

Why not claim that criminals are poor, which is as plausible as the proposition that poor people are criminals. It doesn't follow, of course, that making poor people wealthy transforms them magically into non-criminals. Especially since many crimes committed by poor people are not meant to enrich them - assaults, rapes, murder, and drug use don't in themselves enrich the perpetrators, who are simply sociopaths, not hungry upright citizens driven to criminality to feed themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:How about paying.....for college or other ways to get out of poverty?

Because poverty is not a cause of murder.

Poverty is a significant driver of crime, including murder.

Why not claim that criminals are poor, which is as plausible as the proposition that poor people are criminals. It doesn't follow, of course, that making poor people wealthy transforms them magically into non-criminals. Especially since many crimes committed by poor people are not meant to enrich them - assaults, rapes, murder, and drug use don't in themselves enrich the perpetrators, who are simply sociopaths, not hungry upright citizens driven to criminality to feed themselves.

Some of the very wealthy are wealthy because they are sleazy white collar criminals. Some people are just sociopaths.