Reopen on Thursday or Friday

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Anonymous wrote:As part of our orderly shutdown, my agency told us we were to report the business day after the lapse ended. If Trump signs a funding bill at 12:01 am on Thursday, the next business day would be Friday. However, I would report on Thursday.

If the business day has not begun yet on Thursday when Trump signs, wouldn’t Thursday be the first business day after the lapse ends?

No. The day the lapse ends is day zero. It doesn’t matter when it ends (ie, 12:01 am or 11:59pm); that entire calendar day is day zero. We’ve been told to report on day zero +1.

I wish we’d hear anything from next level management. My employees are all asking me and I have nothing to tell them.

We got an email yesterday from our division chief (sent to personal email) advising us to be ready to report to office on Thursday.

DP - which agencies do you all work for? I’m at an HHS OpDiv and have heard nothing yet. I did text my team yesterday to let them know I’d be in touch as soon as I have official word.

AFAIK, agencies have some discretion in terms of when people are required to return. Not weeks obviously, but I could see if Trump signs very late tonight some might say Thursday and others Friday.

PP here. HHS OpDiv.

In another HHS OPDiv, our manager just told us to be ready for Friday.

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Anonymous wrote:Boundaries, well, that's why it's called "work" for most people. But not Club Fed, apparently. Like you had your busy furlough schedule all set and now they want you to come in to your JOB? Oh the boundary violation.

I have a clean conscience. Flame away, I don’t GAF. the new social contract of the DOGE era is pretty clear. I know I will have Trump favored industry breathing down my neck to get unfair prioritization and I have zero compunction about getting to work at 10:30am the first day after furlough.

It's not your 90 minutes. It's your not caring or taking a moment to appreciate what the compromises that led to your being able to go in to serve the public and get all your money cost others.

+1. This is EXACTLY why feds have a horrible reputation and why, many, like me (not MAGA but served in two agencies), want to see a reduction in workforce and waste.

MAGA trolls really can’t help themselves.

DP. You really don’t think it is rich that people are complaining about having to come in on short formal notice (when we have all known since Sunday this is likely and since yesterday it is extremely likely) when most of us have been off for 42 days? Come on, that’s not MAGA, that’s common sense rather than extreme entitlement.

My kids are pissed we will have to get up a bunch earlier and back to the old routine, but such is life.

Yup, you MAGA trolls really can’t control your hate.

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Anonymous wrote:Boundaries, well, that's why it's called "work" for most people. But not Club Fed, apparently. Like you had your busy furlough schedule all set and now they want you to come in to your JOB? Oh the boundary violation.

I have a clean conscience. Flame away, I don’t GAF. the new social contract of the DOGE era is pretty clear. I know I will have Trump favored industry breathing down my neck to get unfair prioritization and I have zero compunction about getting to work at 10:30am the first day after furlough.

It's not your 90 minutes. It's your not caring or taking a moment to appreciate what the compromises that led to your being able to go in to serve the public and get all your money cost others.

+1. This is EXACTLY why feds have a horrible reputation and why, many, like me (not MAGA but served in two agencies), want to see a reduction in workforce and waste.

MAGA trolls really can’t help themselves.

DP. You really don’t think it is rich that people are complaining about having to come in on short formal notice (when we have all known since Sunday this is likely and since yesterday it is extremely likely) when most of us have been off for 42 days? Come on, that’s not MAGA, that’s common sense rather than extreme entitlement.

My kids are pissed we will have to get up a bunch earlier and back to the old routine, but such is life.

Yup, you MAGA trolls really can’t control your hate.

If you really think that’s “hate”, then you are a big part of what actual MAGA morons exist.

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Anonymous wrote:Boundaries, well, that's why it's called "work" for most people. But not Club Fed, apparently. Like you had your busy furlough schedule all set and now they want you to come in to your JOB? Oh the boundary violation.

I have a clean conscience. Flame away, I don’t GAF. the new social contract of the DOGE era is pretty clear. I know I will have Trump favored industry breathing down my neck to get unfair prioritization and I have zero compunction about getting to work at 10:30am the first day after furlough.

It's not your 90 minutes. It's your not caring or taking a moment to appreciate what the compromises that led to your being able to go in to serve the public and get all your money cost others.

+1. This is EXACTLY why feds have a horrible reputation and why, many, like me (not MAGA but served in two agencies), want to see a reduction in workforce and waste.

MAGA trolls really can’t help themselves.

DP. You really don’t think it is rich that people are complaining about having to come in on short formal notice (when we have all known since Sunday this is likely and since yesterday it is extremely likely) when most of us have been off for 42 days? Come on, that’s not MAGA, that’s common sense rather than extreme entitlement.

My kids are pissed we will have to get up a bunch earlier and back to the old routine, but such is life.

Many many posts have answered the bolded with "no." Why are you still trying to make this a thing?
People are allowed to complain about work - always, but especially if work has been jerking them around.

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Op is probably a MAGA troll. Most Feds are not as entitled as OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Boundaries, well, that's why it's called "work" for most people. But not Club Fed, apparently. Like you had your busy furlough schedule all set and now they want you to come in to your JOB? Oh the boundary violation.

I have a clean conscience. Flame away, I don’t GAF. the new social contract of the DOGE era is pretty clear. I know I will have Trump favored industry breathing down my neck to get unfair prioritization and I have zero compunction about getting to work at 10:30am the first day after furlough.

It's not your 90 minutes. It's your not caring or taking a moment to appreciate what the compromises that led to your being able to go in to serve the public and get all your money cost others.

+1. This is EXACTLY why feds have a horrible reputation and why, many, like me (not MAGA but served in two agencies), want to see a reduction in workforce and waste.

MAGA trolls really can’t help themselves.

DP. You really don’t think it is rich that people are complaining about having to come in on short formal notice (when we have all known since Sunday this is likely and since yesterday it is extremely likely) when most of us have been off for 42 days? Come on, that’s not MAGA, that’s common sense rather than extreme entitlement.

My kids are pissed we will have to get up a bunch earlier and back to the old routine, but such is life.

Yup, you MAGA trolls really can’t control your hate.

If you really think that’s “hate”, then you are a big part of what actual MAGA morons exist.

Don’t like it when people call you out on your BS, eh?

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Anonymous wrote:As part of our orderly shutdown, my agency told us we were to report the business day after the lapse ended. If Trump signs a funding bill at 12:01 am on Thursday, the next business day would be Friday. However, I would report on Thursday.

If the business day has not begun yet on Thursday when Trump signs, wouldn’t Thursday be the first business day after the lapse ends?

No. The day the lapse ends is day zero. It doesn’t matter when it ends (ie, 12:01 am or 11:59pm); that entire calendar day is day zero. We’ve been told to report on day zero +1.

I wish we’d hear anything from next level management. My employees are all asking me and I have nothing to tell them.

Someone just forwarded me a screenshot of an email from an SES in another division who said to prepare for normal operations Thursday.

Yeah...that's how information flows in my agency. Most upper management don't communicate so employees text each other screenshots from the ones who do.

The worst part is, I am upper management, just happen to be a furloughed one. There’s only one person between me and the head of agency. But I’ve heard crickets this whole time.

[Anonymous]

So Thursday it is. Asked this question so I can plan things like packing my lunch and coordinate school drop off and pick up with my spouse

[Anonymous]

I guess getting back from their Châteaus in France, Condos in Miami, Beach Houses in Southampton and Ski Lodges in Aspen take time so they need extra notice to get back.

I say make it Monday so their Maids and Butlers can get their McLean and Potomac Mansions fully stocked and ready for their return.

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Everyone has the option of not working and not getting paid. That's not some kind of special fed privilege. You, too, could not work for a month and not get paid. What makes shutdowns different is that you will eventually get back pay, but it was far from obvious this time that it would happen for the people who weren't working.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has the option of not working and not getting paid. That's not some kind of special fed privilege. You, too, could not work for a month and not get paid. What makes shutdowns different is that you will eventually get back pay, but it was far from obvious this time that it would happen for the people who weren't working.

It was extremely unlikely that people wouldn’t get paid in the end given the existing law.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess getting back from their Châteaus in France, Condos in Miami, Beach Houses in Southampton and Ski Lodges in Aspen take time so they need extra notice to get back.

I say make it Monday so their Maids and Butlers can get their McLean and Potomac Mansions fully stocked and ready for their return.

Who goes to their Aspen ski lodge at this time of year?

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has the option of not working and not getting paid. That's not some kind of special fed privilege. You, too, could not work for a month and not get paid. What makes shutdowns different is that you will eventually get back pay, but it was far from obvious this time that it would happen for the people who weren't working.

It was extremely unlikely that people wouldn’t get paid in the end given the existing law.

Disagree. It would be entirely consistent with past behavior and their stated desires. They were also talking about firing people who had been furloughed.

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A one percent pay raise to look forward to next year too (maybe)! It is truly a Great Time to be a Fed.

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Anonymous wrote:Whinging for 42 days about no paycheck on time now whinging you will get paid but might have to get ready night before just in case. OMG. Yes you are treated badly but come on...

Nobody is whinging. It’s called boundaries. I’m not doing a single thing to prepare in advance. On Thursday I will wake up, check email, then head in at an unhurried pace. This probably means getting in a bit late if the news doesn’t come out until late Weds, but I’m fine with that.

Or just take the day off if you aren't ready.