Why did they marry them? Isn’t this a conversation pre engagement or at least in pre-Cana discussions. My wife made it clear she has a good job and she loves it but when kids come if I feel the need to be a SAHM you need to support that. Love, honor and support is what the man says on alter. Not you are a muke to do my work. And btw working women don’t always get looked good upon. My cousin who graduated a much better college than wife and a MBA from NYU had to turn down very high paid Wall Street jobs as wife was a “career wonen” who really just had a bs low level HR jobs in surburbs. She spent her whole salary on nanny, maid service, fancy car clothes, sumner camps and only pulled in like 150k a year. And not just women my BIL has a job making only 60k a year and my sister passed over for promotions like 15 years straight as she is mommy tracked due to her husnand BS job. |
Because that’s 98% of millennial men. If you are looking at younger millennial men, they don’t even want to get married, 30 year olds living at home. |
| are you 10 years old OP? You write and think like my 10YO girl |
Something tells me your friends would divorce their partners faster if they don't have a job so what's the difference. Unless both partners are on same page, this is fair. |
Yes the kids grow up eating grass and sleep under the bridge with the homeless. |
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I recommend a rich husband. Women have better luck finding a wealthy man willing to share their wealth with them than vice versa. You are not going to find a lot of rich women who will pair up with a broke dude. If he is a a stallion, they will keep him in the roster for pound town. Otherwise, rich women want rich men.
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If things don’t work out, the rich husband will dump her and throw her some alimony. But the poor husband will murder his wife for her money. |
I think many men don’t want to be seen as a breadwinner and carry all that responsibility to provide anymore — it’s not like even hard work can assure that you will succeed, with layoffs and the vagaries of the workplace of who will advance. They also want to be home more, be involved with the kids, be present in their lives — as a breadwinner you feel tied to having to be a “yes man” and do whatever it takes to kiss up to a job because there is no safety net. Likewise, sure maybe wife has a BS HR Job, but she doesn’t want to be shackled at home with kids all day, cooking and cleaning the house in a constant loop. I don’t understand why if he had an offer for a Wall Street job, they could easily hire a full time nanny, and they could both work the jobs they want — she was paying for it in fact you say. I assume there is more to the story. Saying you would divorce is pretty extreme — but at same time if a man unilaterally said they wanted to SAH that would likely trigger similar response. It needs to be a partnership, and with the instability of the modern workplace, two jobs can build a better life than one. It’s only on DCUM where every DH becomes a rainmaker if only DW watched the kids; statistically that is quite rare, so most DW staying home has real repercussions for income and stability. |
Before 2008, men don’t mind being the provider and many women’s end goal is to have a BS job where she can waltz in and out anytime. That’s no longer the case. Half of the women want to be that MD at big four, and 98% of men want another income with benefits. You don’t want to play the game then die alone. |
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One Job is BETTER than two jobs. I lost my job I could relocate states, I could work 100 hours if needed, I could travel all the time if needed
At work we did succession planning for VP, SVP, EVP and CEO roles recently I cant put down for instance my manager with two young kids who runs out the door at 430pm every day like building on fire and works remote three days a week and always calling out last minute sick for her or kids as replacement for SVP who is available 24/7. She cant move locations, refused to travel, cant work late and cant trust her to show up as if kids sick she calls out. Her husband is a lazy bone so she tries to do it all and is failing. |
DH worked 100 hr weeks during his 20s, completely neglected home and kids and didn’t know how to run a dish washer when he turned 35. And still hasn’t hit 200k. |
Its not like wealthy and tolerable men are standing at every corner and have no requirements of their own. Every wealthy man I know is married to someone his equal, not necessarily in every aspect but overall scores are pretty similar if you count looks, family background, jobs, money, network etc. |
This^. Men and women with a spouse flexible to move and hold the family fort while ambitious one conquers the world are at so much advantage. Every ambitious woman has a supportive husband behind her. |
I can't think of any place waterfront, South Fork, east of the canal (Hamptons proper) that seats 300. |
Wealthy men is top 10% of the us population? the statistics doesn't check out. And a lot of young men making 90k in their 20s think they are some kind of hot shot, and would only want to date the best looking rich girl on hinge, always think they can do better. |