SEC - Reorg

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the union is only communicating with paying members now. I haven’t heard from them since Feb. (had been at the agency for a few months). I was just about to join too. But certainly not now.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/us-sec-staff-should-not-worry-about-shutdown-layoffs-union-says-2025-09-26/

You’re mad that you don’t get union emails when you didn’t even join the union?

Why can’t people keep their mouths shut? Or emails private. Whatever. It’s really weird that everything that’s said or done ends up in the news. That goes for PA and the agency too, why are these reporters all up in our butts? Don’t they have something better to report on? I can’t imagine everything the SEC does when it comes to personnel is newsworthy, who reads this crap?

+1. Who are these people that get these emails and think it would be a great idea to share them with the press. As if there is any chance that extra attention on the agency will result in positive changes.

Why are they such a secret? They’re from a PUBLIC union (from your rockstar GG).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

“But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.”

Why do you think they want rulemaking? They want de-regulate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the union is only communicating with paying members now. I haven’t heard from them since Feb. (had been at the agency for a few months). I was just about to join too. But certainly not now.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/us-sec-staff-should-not-worry-about-shutdown-layoffs-union-says-2025-09-26/

You’re mad that you don’t get union emails when you didn’t even join the union?

Why can’t people keep their mouths shut? Or emails private. Whatever. It’s really weird that everything that’s said or done ends up in the news. That goes for PA and the agency too, why are these reporters all up in our butts? Don’t they have something better to report on? I can’t imagine everything the SEC does when it comes to personnel is newsworthy, who reads this crap?

+1. Who are these people that get these emails and think it would be a great idea to share them with the press. As if there is any chance that extra attention on the agency will result in positive changes.

Why are they such a secret? They’re from a PUBLIC union (from your rockstar GG).

Let's think about that for a second...the agency saying things that minimize Trump's threats of mass layoffs becoming public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

“But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.”

Why do you think they want rulemaking? They want de-regulate.

In order to rescind rules (aka deregulate), you have to do another rulemaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

“But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.”

Why do you think they want rulemaking? They want de-regulate.

In order to rescind rules (aka deregulate), you have to do another rulemaking.

Rulemaking to rescind rules is simpler work and does not need working many more hours.

[Anonymous]

Will the Reorg impact the offices or industry offices for Corp Fin or IM Disclosure Ops?

[Anonymous]

So if we shut down we're not getting paid huh? That's my feeling despite the legislation that requires it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if we shut down we're not getting paid huh? That's my feeling despite the legislation that requires it.

you get RIFed you're not getting paid either, if you make over $250k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the union is only communicating with paying members now. I haven’t heard from them since Feb. (had been at the agency for a few months). I was just about to join too. But certainly not now.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/us-sec-staff-should-not-worry-about-shutdown-layoffs-union-says-2025-09-26/

You’re mad that you don’t get union emails when you didn’t even join the union?

Why can’t people keep their mouths shut? Or emails private. Whatever. It’s really weird that everything that’s said or done ends up in the news. That goes for PA and the agency too, why are these reporters all up in our butts? Don’t they have something better to report on? I can’t imagine everything the SEC does when it comes to personnel is newsworthy, who reads this crap?

+1. Who are these people that get these emails and think it would be a great idea to share them with the press. As if there is any chance that extra attention on the agency will result in positive changes.

Why are they such a secret? They’re from a PUBLIC union (from your rockstar GG).

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They aren’t public unions. They are unions who represent public sector employees. Big difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if we shut down we're not getting paid huh? That's my feeling despite the legislation that requires it.

you get RIFed you're not getting paid either, if you make over $250k

250k all in? 250k base?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

“But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.”

Why do you think they want rulemaking? They want de-regulate.

In order to rescind rules (aka deregulate), you have to do another rulemaking.

Rulemaking to rescind rules is simpler work and does not need working many more hours.

Lol, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if we shut down we're not getting paid huh? That's my feeling despite the legislation that requires it.

you get RIFed you're not getting paid either, if you make over $250k

250k all in? 250k base?

if the rate of pay used in retirement calculations (basic pay= base pay + locality) is in excess of the official rate of pay for EX level I, you are not eligible for severance.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/severance-pay/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the union is only communicating with paying members now. I haven’t heard from them since Feb. (had been at the agency for a few months). I was just about to join too. But certainly not now.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/us-sec-staff-should-not-worry-about-shutdown-layoffs-union-says-2025-09-26/

You’re mad that you don’t get union emails when you didn’t even join the union?

Why can’t people keep their mouths shut? Or emails private. Whatever. It’s really weird that everything that’s said or done ends up in the news. That goes for PA and the agency too, why are these reporters all up in our butts? Don’t they have something better to report on? I can’t imagine everything the SEC does when it comes to personnel is newsworthy, who reads this crap?

+1. Who are these people that get these emails and think it would be a great idea to share them with the press. As if there is any chance that extra attention on the agency will result in positive changes.

Why are they such a secret? They’re from a PUBLIC union (from your rockstar GG).

NP, it's embarrassing. Other agencies have the same internal stuff happening (often worse) but you don't see their business in the press and you don't see 3 different threads on DCUM every time something happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

“But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.”

Why do you think they want rulemaking? They want de-regulate.

In order to rescind rules (aka deregulate), you have to do another rulemaking.

Rulemaking to rescind rules is simpler work and does not need working many more hours.

Maybe less work, but still work. Now you also have to legitimately consider the comment responses, which are always numerous, and make up something to show you legitimately thought about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the union is only communicating with paying members now. I haven’t heard from them since Feb. (had been at the agency for a few months). I was just about to join too. But certainly not now.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/us-sec-staff-should-not-worry-about-shutdown-layoffs-union-says-2025-09-26/

You’re mad that you don’t get union emails when you didn’t even join the union?

Why can’t people keep their mouths shut? Or emails private. Whatever. It’s really weird that everything that’s said or done ends up in the news. That goes for PA and the agency too, why are these reporters all up in our butts? Don’t they have something better to report on? I can’t imagine everything the SEC does when it comes to personnel is newsworthy, who reads this crap?

+1. Who are these people that get these emails and think it would be a great idea to share them with the press. As if there is any chance that extra attention on the agency will result in positive changes.

Why are they such a secret? They’re from a PUBLIC union (from your rockstar GG).

.

They aren’t public unions. They are unions who represent public sector employees. Big difference.

And also, the email from the union was not really informative as to whether we will be subject to RIF or not, PA hadn’t even read the OMB memo. It was likely just to address what I am sure were numerous questions from members given news reports. All it basically said was that there is no reason to get worked up, so far we have no info about anything different. So why is that even newsworthy?