Elite presidents in battle over admin

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to steer my high schooler to apply to schools with integrity and backbone. I’m ready to full pay and will certainly not turn my hard-earned money over to cowards and bootlickers.

Non-Cowards & non-bootlickers = Communists & antisemites

Because Princeton, a $34bil institution run by a Jewish man who discovered his mother had to hide her Jewish identity in Berlin, is both communist and antisemitic….right. It’s ridiculous how far people will go to feed their own ideas.

+1, Princeton will do fine without tying its hands to trumps bedpost like wustl and Vanderbilt seem to need.

Princeton would definitely not survive in its current form without federal money. I’m glad Vandy and WashU are speaking out for what’s right

Which is? They’re protecting their pockets. They do not actually care about your own political project.

[Anonymous]

The issue for even the schools with large endowments is the endowments are 1) generally restricted, funds can only be used for what the donor intended, i.e. endowed chair, library, lab, etc, not to fund lawsuit against the government or offset revenue losses due to lack of tuition/grants and 2) to the extent that some portion of the endowment is unrestricted, approx 10-20 percent for most institutions it is not liquid, it is in stocks and bonds and in order to liquidate it there would be a reduction due to penalties on the bond instruments and market losses on the equities.
Looking at the endowments as war chests is sort of like running your household budget by spending the equity in your house.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with Eisgruber (Princeton) that it's dangerous and a folly for universities to capitulate to a sitting president's political agenda (Trump). That's not what democracies should do. It's what happened very quickly in Russia (see the film my Undesirable Friends Part 1, 2024).

I think some of these uni presidents don't have a backbone and also smell an opportunity to take a middling position or play along with Trump.

History will judge this mess. They're all in the crucible now and we'll see and history will tell what they're made of.

Yeah, this is just rank opportunism from Vandy and WashU. They smell an opportunity to get out from the shadow of more elite institutions by accepting the terms of the Rufos of the world. It’s embarrassing, short-term thinking but probably not surprising given the desperation of these schools to get out of the Ivies’ shadow (not to mention their location in deep-red states where I’m sure the fight against authoritarian ideology must be exhausting…but then university presidents are paid a whole lot of money to do this job, so my sympathy does not run very deep).

I also know that at least one non-Ivy top-10 institution was approached to join the Vandy/WashU group and declined. They heard the pitch as purely opportunistic—let’s differentiate ourselves from the Ivies—and didn’t want any part of it. So it’s not just the Ivies who see this as foolish.

What are the "non-Ivy top 10 institutions?" Duke? MIT? Cal Tech? Stanford? I think that is pretty much the list unless you want to be more loose in your definition of "top 10" and add Chicago, Hopkins, Northwestern? Why not just say what school it is?

duke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies became too ideologically biased, too committed to the equity agenda which has aged horribly, and too permissive of harassment of Jewish students (because they were positioned as privileged whites).

The statement by WashU/Vandy was perfect. They should and will advance as institutions by pursuing the neutral path and commitment to traditional liberal values versus the postmodern distortion of them.

LMAO, WASHU is the communist you fear: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-u-lecturer-warns-medical-students-not-debate-systemic-oppression-shut-down

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De-wokeification will be necessary at all research universities because this is the new normal. Complain about those nasty republicans all you want. There is a lot of political mass on the right behind punishing colleges that engage in woke politics. No college can survive going through this every time we have a Republican president and no program administrator is going to want to risk their program blowing up because the school they awarded the contract to is too woke.

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Anonymous wrote:De-wokeification will be necessary at all research universities because this is the new normal. Complain about those nasty republicans all you want. There is a lot of political mass on the right behind punishing colleges that engage in woke politics. No college can survive going through this every time we have a Republican president and no program administrator is going to want to risk their program blowing up because the school they awarded the contract to is too woke.

Tell WASHU and Vandy to start then. Both those campuses are obnoxiously woke, but their presidents aren't doing anything other than arguing.

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Let's go Princeton!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:De-wokeification will be necessary at all research universities because this is the new normal. Complain about those nasty republicans all you want. There is a lot of political mass on the right behind punishing colleges that engage in woke politics. No college can survive going through this every time we have a Republican president and no program administrator is going to want to risk their program blowing up because the school they awarded the contract to is too woke.

Tell WASHU and Vandy to start then. Both those campuses are obnoxiously woke, but their presidents aren't doing anything other than arguing.

Too many institutions are stuck in their ways and refuse to change but the world is changing without them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:De-wokeification will be necessary at all research universities because this is the new normal. Complain about those nasty republicans all you want. There is a lot of political mass on the right behind punishing colleges that engage in woke politics. No college can survive going through this every time we have a Republican president and no program administrator is going to want to risk their program blowing up because the school they awarded the contract to is too woke.

Tell WASHU and Vandy to start then. Both those campuses are obnoxiously woke, but their presidents aren't doing anything other than arguing.

Too many institutions are stuck in their ways and refuse to change but the world is changing without them

Progress is slow at big institutions but it does come. Princeton didn't even admit women until the '70s, but eventually they did it. And it will survive this ugly decades later backlash as will many others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:De-wokeification will be necessary at all research universities because this is the new normal. Complain about those nasty republicans all you want. There is a lot of political mass on the right behind punishing colleges that engage in woke politics. No college can survive going through this every time we have a Republican president and no program administrator is going to want to risk their program blowing up because the school they awarded the contract to is too woke.

Tell WASHU and Vandy to start then. Both those campuses are obnoxiously woke, but their presidents aren't doing anything other than arguing.

Too many institutions are stuck in their ways and refuse to change but the world is changing without them

Progress is slow at big institutions but it does come. Princeton didn't even admit women until the '70s, but eventually they did it. And it will survive this ugly decades later backlash as will many others.

It’s not a matter of survival only. Along with the demographic cliff, these institutions to act more quickly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:De-wokeification will be necessary at all research universities because this is the new normal. Complain about those nasty republicans all you want. There is a lot of political mass on the right behind punishing colleges that engage in woke politics. No college can survive going through this every time we have a Republican president and no program administrator is going to want to risk their program blowing up because the school they awarded the contract to is too woke.

Tell WASHU and Vandy to start then. Both those campuses are obnoxiously woke, but their presidents aren't doing anything other than arguing.

Too many institutions are stuck in their ways and refuse to change but the world is changing without them

Progress is slow at big institutions but it does come. Princeton didn't even admit women until the '70s, but eventually they did it. And it will survive this ugly decades later backlash as will many others.

It’s not a matter of survival only. Along with the demographic cliff, these institutions to act more quickly

These institutions don't have to do a damn thing. Princeton, WashU, and Vanderbilt are going nowhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Ivies became too ideologically biased, too committed to the equity agenda which has aged horribly, and too permissive of harassment of Jewish students (because they were positioned as privileged whites).

The statement by WashU/Vandy was perfect. They should and will advance as institutions by pursuing the neutral path and commitment to traditional liberal values versus the postmodern distortion of them.

LMAO, WASHU is the communist you fear: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-u-lecturer-warns-medical-students-not-debate-systemic-oppression-shut-down

Just dropped my kid off in st Louis. Didn’t see one visible sign of wokeness on campus. Closest was the diversity and inclusion center - but notably it omitted the word equity - which makes it actually very non woke. It’s pretty amazing to have a college that is not tainted by woke stupidity like so many are. The article above was 2022 fyi

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The Ivies became too ideologically biased, too committed to the equity agenda which has aged horribly, and too permissive of harassment of Jewish students (because they were positioned as privileged whites).

The statement by WashU/Vandy was perfect. They should and will advance as institutions by pursuing the neutral path and commitment to traditional liberal values versus the postmodern distortion of them.

LMAO, WASHU is the communist you fear: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-u-lecturer-warns-medical-students-not-debate-systemic-oppression-shut-down

Just dropped my kid off in st Louis. Didn’t see one visible sign of wokeness on campus. Closest was the diversity and inclusion center - but notably it omitted the word equity - which makes it actually very non woke. It’s pretty amazing to have a college that is not tainted by woke stupidity like so many are. The article above was 2022 fyi

Wow you're a tool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:De-wokeification will be necessary at all research universities because this is the new normal. Complain about those nasty republicans all you want. There is a lot of political mass on the right behind punishing colleges that engage in woke politics. No college can survive going through this every time we have a Republican president and no program administrator is going to want to risk their program blowing up because the school they awarded the contract to is too woke.

Tell WASHU and Vandy to start then. Both those campuses are obnoxiously woke, but their presidents aren't doing anything other than arguing.

I'm not picking on any particular school but this is the new normal.
Republican presidents will be able to make political hay by beating up on ideologically captured research colleges.

This isn't going away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies became too ideologically biased, too committed to the equity agenda which has aged horribly, and too permissive of harassment of Jewish students (because they were positioned as privileged whites).

The statement by WashU/Vandy was perfect. They should and will advance as institutions by pursuing the neutral path and commitment to traditional liberal values versus the postmodern distortion of them.

LMAO, WASHU is the communist you fear: https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-u-lecturer-warns-medical-students-not-debate-systemic-oppression-shut-down

Just dropped my kid off in st Louis. Didn’t see one visible sign of wokeness on campus. Closest was the diversity and inclusion center - but notably it omitted the word equity - which makes it actually very non woke. It’s pretty amazing to have a college that is not tainted by woke stupidity like so many are. The article above was 2022 fyi

Wow you're a tool.

Why? Equity sucks. Worst idea to hit America in decades. Vile concept that undermines every foundational principle of our country.