Class of 2029 Freshman Profile

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Anonymous wrote:Will the schools that remain TO will become more selective than those that are TR?

The TO schools (which are becoming fewer and fewer) can continue to select applicants with no ACT/SAT scores because they never reported them for a reason and then that school will report higher median ACT/SAT scores than is actual reality for their admitted classes protected with an asterisk. The question is how skewed will the reported median of scores of admitted students be from the actual median? This will largely depend on the % of applicants that are actually admitted TO.

Interesting read here on why UT Austin abandoned Test Optional last cycle. With inflated GPA's across the country, it had determined scores as a supplement to GPA are a better indicator of academic success.

https://news.utexas.edu/2024/03/11/ut-austin-reinstates-standardized-test-scores-in-admissions/

Yes but students will start yo get into TR schools with lower test scores and rejected from schools that are TO. I dont see how its a good look for Cornell and Dartmouth when their students are rejected from Emory and Vanderbilt.

huh? Lower test scores will be rejected by schools that require them with high median reported scores and they are more likely to be accepted by schools that don't. Especially by test optional schools that have a high percentage of admitted students without scores. 25% or higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will the schools that remain TO will become more selective than those that are TR?

The TO schools (which are becoming fewer and fewer) can continue to select applicants with no ACT/SAT scores because they never reported them for a reason and then that school will report higher median ACT/SAT scores than is actual reality for their admitted classes protected with an asterisk. The question is how skewed will the reported median of scores of admitted students be from the actual median? This will largely depend on the % of applicants that are actually admitted TO.

Interesting read here on why UT Austin abandoned Test Optional last cycle. With inflated GPA's across the country, it had determined scores as a supplement to GPA are a better indicator of academic success.

https://news.utexas.edu/2024/03/11/ut-austin-reinstates-standardized-test-scores-in-admissions/

Yes but students will start yo get into TR schools with lower test scores and rejected from schools that are TO. I dont see how its a good look for Cornell and Dartmouth when their students are rejected from Emory and Vanderbilt.

First, they are not going to get into TR schools with lower test scores; they are the same kids with the same scores, but TR will require them to submit so the school's reported median won't be skewed by the unreported scores.

Also, if they are rejected from Emory and Vanderbilt, that's probably because of reasons other than their test scores. I know a current Brown student who was rejected from Vanderbilt, Northwestern, and UVA. He was going to go to UT Austin instate before he got into Brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS is only a sophomore so I haven't paid too much attention but since when did Emory want ivy stats?

They used to have modest scores, they turned into Vanderbilt part 2 quickly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DS is only a sophomore so I haven't paid too much attention but since when did Emory want ivy stats?

They used to have modest scores, they turned into Vanderbilt part 2 quickly.

All because of test optional. if test required, it will go down significantly

[Anonymous]

Admissions this fall should be the easiest in many years. Standardized testing back. International competition down. If your kid is applying to college over the next few months, this will be about as good as it gets to find a top landing spot. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Admissions this fall should be the easiest in many years. Standardized testing back. International competition down. If your kid is applying to college over the next few months, this will be about as good as it gets to find a top landing spot. Good luck!

acceptance rates will still remain single digits at the top schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is only a sophomore so I haven't paid too much attention but since when did Emory want ivy stats?

They used to have modest scores, they turned into Vanderbilt part 2 quickly.

All because of test optional. if test required, it will go down significantly

It wont friend. It was a 1470 enrolled before test optional. Its a 1510 last year, likely a 1530 this year. They've put in a big effort to raise scores. It wont drop 60 points, like Dartmouth was able to maintain a 1520.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Admissions this fall should be the easiest in many years. Standardized testing back. International competition down. If your kid is applying to college over the next few months, this will be about as good as it gets to find a top landing spot. Good luck!

Wouldn't it be harder at TO schools? Because more schools are TR, the lower scoring students have no where to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is only a sophomore so I haven't paid too much attention but since when did Emory want ivy stats?

They used to have modest scores, they turned into Vanderbilt part 2 quickly.

38% test optional admitted last cycle. We don’t know their true medians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Admissions this fall should be the easiest in many years. Standardized testing back. International competition down. If your kid is applying to college over the next few months, this will be about as good as it gets to find a top landing spot. Good luck!

Wouldn't it be harder at TO schools? Because more schools are TR, the lower scoring students have no where to go.

What do you mean "have no where to go"? There are only a handful of test required schools, thousands stay test optional!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Admissions this fall should be the easiest in many years. Standardized testing back. International competition down. If your kid is applying to college over the next few months, this will be about as good as it gets to find a top landing spot. Good luck!

Wouldn't it be harder at TO schools? Because more schools are TR, the lower scoring students have no where to go.

What do you mean "have no where to go"? There are only a handful of test required schools, thousands stay test optional!

They are mostly concerned about sneaking their mid kid into a t20 school with expensive extracurricular and a professionally written essay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is only a sophomore so I haven't paid too much attention but since when did Emory want ivy stats?

They used to have modest scores, they turned into Vanderbilt part 2 quickly.

38% test optional admitted last cycle. We don’t know their true medians.

Thats less than Vanderbilt, and more submitted this year.

[Anonymous]

Schools that accept a large portion of their students ED, like Emory, lock in their medians very quickly. So once you see which students are applying ED its easy to guess the median test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is only a sophomore so I haven't paid too much attention but since when did Emory want ivy stats?

They used to have modest scores, they turned into Vanderbilt part 2 quickly.

All because of test optional. if test required, it will go down significantly

It wont friend. It was a 1470 enrolled before test optional. Its a 1510 last year, likely a 1530 this year. They've put in a big effort to raise scores. It wont drop 60 points, like Dartmouth was able to maintain a 1520.

NP. Emory's middle 50 percentile range before test optional was 1400-1510.

The most elite schools will only see their 25th percentile go down 10 or 20 pts. Score ranges for schools like Emory would come back down to earth if they went back to test required, and that is ok. Still a great school. It would be helpful to see true test score ranges rather than the partial ranges currently being reported. Alas, I doubt Emory will go back to requiring tests anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS is only a sophomore so I haven't paid too much attention but since when did Emory want ivy stats?

They used to have modest scores, they turned into Vanderbilt part 2 quickly.

All because of test optional. if test required, it will go down significantly

It wont friend. It was a 1470 enrolled before test optional. Its a 1510 last year, likely a 1530 this year. They've put in a big effort to raise scores. It wont drop 60 points, like Dartmouth was able to maintain a 1520.

NP. Emory's middle 50 percentile range before test optional was 1400-1510.

The most elite schools will only see their 25th percentile go down 10 or 20 pts. Score ranges for schools like Emory would come back down to earth if they went back to test required, and that is ok. Still a great school. It would be helpful to see true test score ranges rather than the partial ranges currently being reported. Alas, I doubt Emory will go back to requiring tests anytime soon.

Everyone understands this but for the OP of this thread who started this thread only to try to boast of Emory's numbers we all know are not true medians. Even the school put an asterisk next to them.