Where is USA headed?

[Anonymous]

Changing demographics have Latinamerica-fied our politics. As in Latin America, western countries are now condemned to neverending lurching between two ideological extremes that then only further radicalise in reaction to each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Changing demographics have Latinamerica-fied our politics. As in Latin America, western countries are now condemned to neverending lurching between two ideological extremes that then only further radicalise in reaction to each other.

Ideological extremes? Clinton, Obama and Biden were all centrists. You should hear how much the actual far left complains about them. Meanwhile the far right is usually in lockstep with the Trump administration, other than a few rare exceptions (such as Trump trying not to deport too many farm workers or the failure to release the Epstein files).

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Anonymous wrote:Straight to Hell in a free fall.

Wrong. The good people of this country will put the nightmarish Trump/Biden years in the rear view mirror and we'll move forward to a better place together with love and compassion for all of our fellow Americans who were duped into thinking 80 year old people should be POTUS.

With all the both-sidesing that happens in these threads, I hope people can see the difference between 2020 Biden and 2024 Biden. 2020 Biden took part in a primary and earned the nomination. While the pandemic limited his public appearances, he was sharp when he needed to be (debating Trump, for example). 2024 Biden screwed us all.

Trump, on the other hand, has always been the same guy.

…and Biden at his worst was better than Trump ever was. As a human.

True but anyone with an IQ over 90 knows dang well neither of those elderly clowns should have ever occupied The White House.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, you people need to get off social media.

And so do you

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Anonymous wrote:Heading dooooown, way down. The less people admit it the faster we all sink. The biggest prob with the US is ego. The 100 American flags in houses in my neighborhood - could not be more obnoxious. The problem is that so many continue to talk about how great this country has been and will be without actually observing what it is like now. We have a lot of probs and it's not a shame to admit it so we can fix it and recognize we gave something to do better and want to learn from other countries who may do something better but nope, it's always about how nobody is stronger, richer or has more freedom than the US. So what? None if it means we are happy or good at anything!

Do other countries experience the self-hatred we do or is that unique to the U.S.?

Nah, it's not even most of the US. It's just the sad liberals here.

Try more like your favorite president

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think it will be like in the country for the next decade? Climate deniers, health care vaccine deniers, data deniers. Add the type of deniers you have seen or you predict will emerge within the next 10 years. People from other countries and/or if you have lived extensively elsewhere : can you draw correlations to what you have seen in a different country, and if you have kids, do you advise your kid to move to the country from where you moved to the US even if the kid has never visited or lived in that country? Should people try to move to ...I don't know ...Mars?

Data deniers? That’s funny. Part of what we’re seeing is the use of big data by the Rs and Ds to identify and target increasingly refined subsets of people so that they can effectively message to them (read - activate people’s tribal instincts to separate into us v them / insider v outsider groups) and, therefore, build their pre-election coalitions of such groups under their respective tents.

In the short term, I think you’ll see the parties shift quickly (or more quickly than previously) between elections to refine their messaging and therefore coalitions. For example, the Rs will move on from MAGA identity / messaging quickly once it isn’t effective. They are already testing what their next “brand” will be.

Just beyond that, I think people will realize they’re being played / activated and that their “political identity” is simply one of many identities that they have, and will revert to the pragmatic wisdom of the past—refrain from talking about divisive topics like politics or religion in polite company; realize that people are more interesting than their politics or religion; realize you can be friends with folks that have different political or religious beliefs based on other shared interests (e.g., playing sports or other activities, non-political advocacy like rescuing animals). Pendulum swings back to folks being mostly polite because the alternative is to be a constantly activated nincompoop that is always looking to fight, and most people really don’t want to live that way.

There are people who refuse to look at data to try to come to correlations. They would rather listen to a certain someone on a certain channel. America magas, wake the F up

[Anonymous]

There is a caste in American society that consumes as much blue-chip media (NYT, New Yorker, NPR) as possible and then quizzes each other on how closely they've read it to discern their place within the caste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Changing demographics have Latinamerica-fied our politics. As in Latin America, western countries are now condemned to neverending lurching between two ideological extremes that then only further radicalise in reaction to each other.

+1 the behaviors that we are seeing that we are shocked by are normal in some countries. We are become less like Europe and more like Brazil. The European style of democracy that requires cooperation and negotiation is being pushed to the side for “Strongman Doers” and sometimes their “doing” is pretty unethical. Turkey’s president is locking up members of the opposition party, Bolsonaro and Lula in Brazil both have a stack of criminal charges, Duterte in the Philippines was having drug dealers and addicts shot without a trial. These are just the first examples I came up with, there is plenty more examples around the world. I don’t think we are going to be going backwards from the behavior we are seeing in our government, we are just getting started.

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Anonymous wrote:Horrible until 2029, then wonderful! I see universal healthcare, restoration of education and scientific research, economic growth and stability, and HOPE for our future.

When the pendulum swings it will swing far. We might have to designate maga as a domestic terror to make any real progress.

Dems are no better. Different but not better.

This country is a cultural wasteland. The uneducated outnumber the educated because let's face it the wealth gap is huge and most parents do not have time to raise their kids when they need to work. This in turn puts not all but most if not many many kids at disadvantages educationally, both by way of formal schooling but also from a perspective of knowing what's right and wrong. This country is all about profit now so everything's expensive to the point where it's utter ridiculousness from our national to personal debt. Again not all but the majority don't have enough money to receive good healthcare. We all eat horribly, culturally nobody cares about each other only selfishness and independence seems to be priority thus gun culture, MAGA, no vax movement, etc.

Not suggesting there aren't wonderful people or caring communities out there but more and more, there's the above and there's a lot of decay in the culture of this country - what it stood for. Taking down NASA is a huge symbol - it stood for imagination, leadership, expertise at one point. Now this admin wants to replace it with ICE. Everything is interconnected. This kind of stuff makes an impact not just politically but culturally and it changes the energy of how this country moves forward.

Maybe other countries don't lament their futures as we do more and more now but they also don't pin their flags to all their houses and talk such a big game about how great their country is v to the rest of the world like Americans are apt to do.

Don't overvalue education. Many are degreed, but I don't consider that highly educated in many cases. You can hold a conversation with them on several topics and realize just how sub par their education is. Declining education standards and changing priorites on what is important do not help here.

BTW, we've always been profit driven, but both parents didn't have to work in earlier years. What changed? Note: "both" parents.

Why ate ypu lamenting NASA. It's much deeper. Burning the flag and constantly hating ourselves and projecting that hatred in the name of equity is pretty damn big in grievance politics today.

People are fed up and you keep returning to it. Is it all you have to fall back on?

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Anonymous wrote:Changing demographics have Latinamerica-fied our politics. As in Latin America, western countries are now condemned to neverending lurching between two ideological extremes that then only further radicalise in reaction to each other.

+1 the behaviors that we are seeing that we are shocked by are normal in some countries. We are become less like Europe and more like Brazil. The European style of democracy that requires cooperation and negotiation is being pushed to the side for “Strongman Doers” and sometimes their “doing” is pretty unethical. Turkey’s president is locking up members of the opposition party, Bolsonaro and Lula in Brazil both have a stack of criminal charges, Duterte in the Philippines was having drug dealers and addicts shot without a trial. These are just the first examples I came up with, there is plenty more examples around the world. I don’t think we are going to be going backwards from the behavior we are seeing in our government, we are just getting started.

Have you been on a Carnival cruise lately? Have seen the steps the company had to take to stop it?

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Anonymous wrote:Changing demographics have Latinamerica-fied our politics. As in Latin America, western countries are now condemned to neverending lurching between two ideological extremes that then only further radicalise in reaction to each other.

+1 the behaviors that we are seeing that we are shocked by are normal in some countries. We are become less like Europe and more like Brazil. The European style of democracy that requires cooperation and negotiation is being pushed to the side for “Strongman Doers” and sometimes their “doing” is pretty unethical. Turkey’s president is locking up members of the opposition party, Bolsonaro and Lula in Brazil both have a stack of criminal charges, Duterte in the Philippines was having drug dealers and addicts shot without a trial. These are just the first examples I came up with, there is plenty more examples around the world. I don’t think we are going to be going backwards from the behavior we are seeing in our government, we are just getting started.

Have you been on a Carnival cruise lately? Have seen the steps the company had to take to stop it?

Please tell me what that has to do with the United States Government?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Straight to Hell in a free fall.

Wrong. The good people of this country will put the nightmarish Trump/Biden years in the rear view mirror and we'll move forward to a better place together with love and compassion for all of our fellow Americans who were duped into thinking 80 year old people should be POTUS.

With all the both-sidesing that happens in these threads, I hope people can see the difference between 2020 Biden and 2024 Biden. 2020 Biden took part in a primary and earned the nomination. While the pandemic limited his public appearances, he was sharp when he needed to be (debating Trump, for example). 2024 Biden screwed us all.

Trump, on the other hand, has always been the same guy.

…and Biden at his worst was better than Trump ever was. As a human.

True but anyone with an IQ over 90 knows dang well neither of those elderly clowns should have ever occupied The White House.

Quit insulting old people. Americans are so ageist.

Some of the youngest people in politics are the most unhinged, ignorant, and incompetent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Straight to Hell in a free fall.

Wrong. The good people of this country will put the nightmarish Trump/Biden years in the rear view mirror and we'll move forward to a better place together with love and compassion for all of our fellow Americans who were duped into thinking 80 year old people should be POTUS.

With all the both-sidesing that happens in these threads, I hope people can see the difference between 2020 Biden and 2024 Biden. 2020 Biden took part in a primary and earned the nomination. While the pandemic limited his public appearances, he was sharp when he needed to be (debating Trump, for example). 2024 Biden screwed us all.

Trump, on the other hand, has always been the same guy.

…and Biden at his worst was better than Trump ever was. As a human.

True but anyone with an IQ over 90 knows dang well neither of those elderly clowns should have ever occupied The White House.

Quit insulting old people. Americans are so ageist.

Some of the youngest people in politics are the most unhinged, ignorant, and incompetent.

I'm old and I'm old enough to have known enough elderly people to know that elderly people can't adequately perform the very demanding duties of POTUS 24/7/365. This isn't ageism. This is common sense for those of us who understand how important and demanding the POTUS position is. Find a brain, will ya?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Straight to Hell in a free fall.

Wrong. The good people of this country will put the nightmarish Trump/Biden years in the rear view mirror and we'll move forward to a better place together with love and compassion for all of our fellow Americans who were duped into thinking 80 year old people should be POTUS.

With all the both-sidesing that happens in these threads, I hope people can see the difference between 2020 Biden and 2024 Biden. 2020 Biden took part in a primary and earned the nomination. While the pandemic limited his public appearances, he was sharp when he needed to be (debating Trump, for example). 2024 Biden screwed us all.

Trump, on the other hand, has always been the same guy.

…and Biden at his worst was better than Trump ever was. As a human.

True but anyone with an IQ over 90 knows dang well neither of those elderly clowns should have ever occupied The White House.

Quit insulting old people. Americans are so ageist.

Some of the youngest people in politics are the most unhinged, ignorant, and incompetent.

I'm old and I'm old enough to have known enough elderly people to know that elderly people can't adequately perform the very demanding duties of POTUS 24/7/365. This isn't ageism. This is common sense for those of us who understand how important and demanding the POTUS position is. Find a brain, will ya?

Well, you sound like an adolescent.

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Anonymous wrote:Straight to Hell in a free fall.

Wrong. The good people of this country will put the nightmarish Trump/Biden years in the rear view mirror and we'll move forward to a better place together with love and compassion for all of our fellow Americans who were duped into thinking 80 year old people should be POTUS.

With all the both-sidesing that happens in these threads, I hope people can see the difference between 2020 Biden and 2024 Biden. 2020 Biden took part in a primary and earned the nomination. While the pandemic limited his public appearances, he was sharp when he needed to be (debating Trump, for example). 2024 Biden screwed us all.

Trump, on the other hand, has always been the same guy.

…and Biden at his worst was better than Trump ever was. As a human.

True but anyone with an IQ over 90 knows dang well neither of those elderly clowns should have ever occupied The White House.

Quit insulting old people. Americans are so ageist.

Some of the youngest people in politics are the most unhinged, ignorant, and incompetent.

I'm old and I'm old enough to have known enough elderly people to know that elderly people can't adequately perform the very demanding duties of POTUS 24/7/365. This isn't ageism. This is common sense for those of us who understand how important and demanding the POTUS position is. Find a brain, will ya?

Well, you sound like an adolescent.

Says the person who thought it was wise to vote for a 78 year old leader of the free world. lol