Brainstorming refinements to Option 3 of Woodward Boundary Study

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WJ should get more diverse, not less diverse as it does in every single option.

Option 3 has 30% FARMS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just have all kids lottery to any high school regardless of the location and provide bus service to all

This.

Awful idea. Neighborhood schools are really important for a number of reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’d have to bus other kids in too.

I have an idea.

Whitman and Churchill take 20% kids from high FARMS areas. 5% can be anyone and 15% has to be FARMS kids. That way idencity of FAMRS kids are protected becasue FARMS and non-FARMS kids are taking the bus together.

20% can be lottery. This way all issues are covered.

Guarantee that 20% would just go to private.

Likewise, 20% of Whitman kids are randomly chosen to go to Kennedy

[Anonymous]

Is there a reason not to swap Rosemary Hills/CCES and Rock Creek Forest between Blair and Whitman? They're not hugely different demographically, are they? And it would make both schools closer to the high school.

[Anonymous]

does levelling out FARMS rates actually improve the outcomes of the kids that is supposedly meant to help? Or is this just a box-checking feel-good thing on the part of the BOE?

[Anonymous]

in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

I absolutely think it is worth the squeeze. It has resulted in west county parents flipping out. When Option 3 does not come to pass, they will be so happy that they won't whine as much about their kids' school assignments changing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

I absolutely think it is worth the squeeze. It has resulted in west county parents flipping out. When Option 3 does not come to pass, they will be so happy that they won't whine as much about their kids' school assignments changing.

I was actually thinking about helping FARMS kids, not some cynical ploy on the part of BOE. If their goal was to generate a poison pill, I agree they've succeeded. It is shameful on their part, though, if that is what they've done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

the only other big difference is the disparity between WJ and Woodward. But in all options, WJ ends up with a lower FARMS rate than Woodward. They both have higher FARMS rates in Option 3, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

the only other big difference is the disparity between WJ and Woodward. But in all options, WJ ends up with a lower FARMS rate than Woodward. They both have higher FARMS rates in Option 3, though.

Yeah they should really fix that. When the schools are so close together their farms rates should really not be that different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

the only other big difference is the disparity between WJ and Woodward. But in all options, WJ ends up with a lower FARMS rate than Woodward. They both have higher FARMS rates in Option 3, though.

Yeah they should really fix that. When the schools are so close together their farms rates should really not be that different.

Agree. I'm not certain why Woodward ends up with such a higher FARMS rate in all options, compared to WJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

the only other big difference is the disparity between WJ and Woodward. But in all options, WJ ends up with a lower FARMS rate than Woodward. They both have higher FARMS rates in Option 3, though.

Yeah they should really fix that. When the schools are so close together their farms rates should really not be that different.

Agree. I'm not certain why Woodward ends up with such a higher FARMS rate in all options, compared to WJ.

Because Tilden MS has a higher FARMS rate/more racial diversity than North Bethesda MS to begin with, and then they are adding Viers Mill ES and in at least one option also adding Wheaton Woods ES to Woodward. WJ gets Rosemary Hills/Chevy Chase ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:does levelling out FARMS rates actually improve the outcomes of the kids that is supposedly meant to help? Or is this just a box-checking feel-good thing on the part of the BOE?

It helps FARMS kids as long as it does not go above 20-25%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

That will be an awesome option for some families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in looking again at Option 3 in terms of leveling out FARMS rates across at least high schools, is the juice worth the squeeze? The only really big difference in terms of just that one metric (%FARMS) across options looks like Whitman. It goes from 6% FARMS to 20%. It seems like you could just do something far less disruptive in terms of busing kids all over the county to increase the FARMS rate at Whitman.

Example is what has been proposed in this thread -- let FARMS kids lottery into Whitman, provide central bus locations.

That will be an awesome option for some families.

That just takes the most motivated kids with supportive parents out of the high farms schools which then become even worse with less opportuntities