Scott Wolf (Party of Five) and wife Kelley are divorcing

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Her best friend Danny just posting something that supports Scott. Saying something along the lines of people falsely claim abuse when they can't take accountability of their own actions. It was posted in the instagram story but then took it down. Also bipolar can come on at any time, or she could have been treated for it and we didn't know. We don't know.

That’s not a good friend. He should be trying to make sure she gets help or privately having those conversations with her.

He probably did and saw how unhinged she became and felt compelled to speak out on behalf of Scott. She also said the two police officers were abusing her when they did the 51/50. She is not a reliable narrator in her current condition. Hopefully she can get the help she needs but at this rate she could lose custody of her kids

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Her best friend Danny just posting something that supports Scott. Saying something along the lines of people falsely claim abuse when they can't take accountability of their own actions. It was posted in the instagram story but then took it down. Also bipolar can come on at any time, or she could have been treated for it and we didn't know. We don't know.

That’s not a good friend. He should be trying to make sure she gets help or privately having those conversations with her.

He probably did and saw how unhinged she became and felt compelled to speak out on behalf of Scott. She also said the two police officers were abusing her when they did the 51/50. She is not a reliable narrator in her current condition. Hopefully she can get the help she needs but at this rate she could lose custody of her kids

Right, if I saw my best friend become absolutely unhinged, I’d privately reach out to her husband to offer support. while also working to get her the help she needs.

I would never post something on my Instagram while my friend is having a breakdown. I don’t know if this is because they are “famous” or what but it seems in bad taste, no?

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Her best friend Danny just posting something that supports Scott. Saying something along the lines of people falsely claim abuse when they can't take accountability of their own actions. It was posted in the instagram story but then took it down. Also bipolar can come on at any time, or she could have been treated for it and we didn't know. We don't know.

That’s not a good friend. He should be trying to make sure she gets help or privately having those conversations with her.

He probably did and saw how unhinged she became and felt compelled to speak out on behalf of Scott. She also said the two police officers were abusing her when they did the 51/50. She is not a reliable narrator in her current condition. Hopefully she can get the help she needs but at this rate she could lose custody of her kids

Right, if I saw my best friend become absolutely unhinged, I’d privately reach out to her husband to offer support. while also working to get her the help she needs.

I would never post something on my Instagram while my friend is having a breakdown. I don’t know if this is because they are “famous” or what but it seems in bad taste, no?

I think he did it in a tacit way and prob just felt strongly to speak out, that Scott isn't abusive.

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Her best friend Danny just posting something that supports Scott. Saying something along the lines of people falsely claim abuse when they can't take accountability of their own actions. It was posted in the instagram story but then took it down. Also bipolar can come on at any time, or she could have been treated for it and we didn't know. We don't know.

That’s not a good friend. He should be trying to make sure she gets help or privately having those conversations with her.

He probably did and saw how unhinged she became and felt compelled to speak out on behalf of Scott. She also said the two police officers were abusing her when they did the 51/50. She is not a reliable narrator in her current condition. Hopefully she can get the help she needs but at this rate she could lose custody of her kids

Right, if I saw my best friend become absolutely unhinged, I’d privately reach out to her husband to offer support. while also working to get her the help she needs.

I would never post something on my Instagram while my friend is having a breakdown. I don’t know if this is because they are “famous” or what but it seems in bad taste, no?

Actually a good true friend doesn’t reach out to the Ex who is causing the breakdown to begin with. This leaves her even more isolated and she already feels alone. Does the friend live in their house? No, then he doesn’t know the whole story. Covert narcissistic abuse is difficult to spot unless you’ve lived it. Her response is actually called “reactive abuse”. The abuser makes the victim crazy from the abuse and then acts calm and rational and then points the finger at the abused and says *See look how crazy they are”. Again. “Reactive abuse”. Look it up.

A real friend would reach out to the immediate family. The parents, siblings, etc.to offer help and support. if you don’t know the immediate family then you arent that close of a friend are you? And true friends don’t throw you under the bus on social media. They are former friends now if they ever really were friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Her own kids took Scott’s side, right? Because she cheated? Not uncommon for bipolar, I think.

What? Her kids are all children! Minors. They didn’t take Scott’s side. They are like in elementary/middle school at most.

It’s obvious from what she wrote that HE is the cheater if that’s even the case at all. But she claims she was abused and I think she was. Even *IF* she is bipolar (which I highly doubt) then he’s a jerk for not standing by her when they have fairly young kids together. So much victim blaming here and mental disease shaming from such a “me too” website is pretty gross.

The youngest kid is 12 and oldest is 16.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on her IG… She was clearly starting to lose it as early as January when she makes the post about her kid being in the hospital/leaving the other one home and passive aggressively mentions Scott is promoting a new show for Fox. Seems like she had to handle a lot on the home front and was starting to snap; though they have sufficient money that it seems odd she didn’t have more help at least (leaving a sick 12 year old home alone, if that’s literally true?).

Then something happened April. I’m guessing Scott cheated based on what she starts posting (betrayal, etc) & her parents seemingly come to town to support her in early June (which fits in with the Billy Bush comments) probably in advance of the divorce announcement. There are a lot of very weird posts (including one of her holding up a bag in front of her and filming while driving) in June. I think she’s having some kind of psych episode by that point.

The deluge of stories over the last few days tagging random famous people is way over the top. Mania for sure.

Something happened in April is like an affair was revealed, But maybe has been going on for years. And maybe her posting passive aggressively about everything she's handling is a reference to all of the child care and home maintenance she has been doing for a long period of time while he was stepping out. Ask me how I know.

Tell us!
How do you know?

I’m not the PP but now I’m invested in this. I just went through her Instagram having never followed her before. It is obvious she discovered a serious betrayal in April and she writes about it in flowery prose where she talks about being stronger and begins to dance around the topic of emotional psychological abuse. It’s all there in that posts and the following posts. She’s writing a book about it and she should.

I'm sure she's perfect. Her book about her bipolar personality will prove how honest she is.

Nobody said she was perfect. She’s human. But pretty sure her husband is a nightmare.

Also a couple of men like Danny and Billy Bush rushing to Scott’s defense doesn’t change my mind. This is EXACTLY why abused women don’t speak up. Especially if they are in a high profile relationship. Everyone here judging her and calling her crazy when she states she is abused is part of the problem and you are the reason why abused women stay in the shadows and suffer in silence. Pray it doesn’t ever happen to you or your daughter.

You are ignoring that she most likely has a chemical imbalance in her brain that is causing the bizarre behavior.

Also, do you think it's a good idea to stop st the bar and knock back a few whiskeys after being discharged from a hospital? She's lucky she's not in liver failure. Her abuse of alcohol and the apparent chemical imbalance in her brain were not caused by anything Scott did. Her over the top crazy behavior is probsbly what caused Scott to leave. He has been committed to her for years. She does not get a pass for physically attacking people just because she's a woman.

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Regarding kid's ages (upthread) they are about 11, 14, 16. My daughter was in their daughter's class at school.

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Anonymous wrote:Her own kids took Scott’s side, right? Because she cheated? Not uncommon for bipolar, I think.

What? Her kids are all children! Minors. They didn’t take Scott’s side. They are like in elementary/middle school at most.

It’s obvious from what she wrote that HE is the cheater if that’s even the case at all. But she claims she was abused and I think she was. Even *IF* she is bipolar (which I highly doubt) then he’s a jerk for not standing by her when they have fairly young kids together. So much victim blaming here and mental disease shaming from such a “me too” website is pretty gross.

The youngest kid is 12 and oldest is 16.

She told the police the 16 year old was on Scott’s side and wouldn’t let her in the house. Poor kid.

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Her best friend Danny just posting something that supports Scott. Saying something along the lines of people falsely claim abuse when they can't take accountability of their own actions. It was posted in the instagram story but then took it down. Also bipolar can come on at any time, or she could have been treated for it and we didn't know. We don't know.

That’s not a good friend. He should be trying to make sure she gets help or privately having those conversations with her.

He probably did and saw how unhinged she became and felt compelled to speak out on behalf of Scott. She also said the two police officers were abusing her when they did the 51/50. She is not a reliable narrator in her current condition. Hopefully she can get the help she needs but at this rate she could lose custody of her kids

Right, if I saw my best friend become absolutely unhinged, I’d privately reach out to her husband to offer support. while also working to get her the help she needs.

I would never post something on my Instagram while my friend is having a breakdown. I don’t know if this is because they are “famous” or what but it seems in bad taste, no?

Actually a good true friend doesn’t reach out to the Ex who is causing the breakdown to begin with. This leaves her even more isolated and she already feels alone. Does the friend live in their house? No, then he doesn’t know the whole story. Covert narcissistic abuse is difficult to spot unless you’ve lived it. Her response is actually called “reactive abuse”. The abuser makes the victim crazy from the abuse and then acts calm and rational and then points the finger at the abused and says *See look how crazy they are”. Again. “Reactive abuse”. Look it up.

A real friend would reach out to the immediate family. The parents, siblings, etc.to offer help and support. if you don’t know the immediate family then you arent that close of a friend are you? And true friends don’t throw you under the bus on social media. They are former friends now if they ever really were friends.

Ok, this has gone off the rails. You are writing as if you have insider knowledge and you’ve got the whole narrative, full of details based entirely on your own projections.

Look - I have NO doubt that what you describe occurs, and is a common phenomenon with narcissists. I don’t dispute that at all. But that doesn’t mean it’s automatically true in this situation; untreated mental illness is also a very real and heartbreaking thing. It sounds like they’ve been through it, including their children.

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Anonymous wrote:She went public first with nice comments about him as a person and father and how she tried rooted in hope, patience and care of their children.

He then came out with his own statement to let it be known that he was the one that filed for divorce (strange)—-

Not sure why he went public to let people know he filed, not her.

That was the first clue he is a malignant covert narcissist. Narcs like him always have to “win”. His statement versus hers gave it all away. She was above board and hopeful, he had to let the world know 1) his decision 2) “he tried” but she was flawed.

This is a woman who was probably cheated on, emotional and psychologically abused, gaslit to the point of breakdown. She probably tried to save their marriage for years before he did the final narcissist “discard”. Her self esteem and metal health are completely shattered. Ask me how I know. Praying for peace for Kelly.

Based on her posting from a bar post discharge it seems like she is either manic or borderline, does not take her meds, and
likes to drink. That's a lethal combination. I would last about two weeks with someone like that so I applaud him for lasting 20 years. She posted crazy crap and tagged A bunch of actors and a few presidents. She seems unstable and grandiose. If you have ever tried having a conversation with a person who has delusions of grandiosity you know how frustrating it is. He is right to leave her and take the kids.

If that’s true, which I don’t believe it even remotely is, not even close, then he should be standing beside her and getting her help. She is totally having a meltdown but it’s not because of meds or drinking. It’s from abuse. Even when she was in the Real Workd house, filed 24-7, she was the one who didn’t drink, didn’t sleep around, literally the most boring character to the point I wondered why they even cast her. Bipolar and Biorderljne personality disorders are psinfully onvious by late teens and early 20’s. She displayed NONE of that.

This is a classic case of Scott employing DARVO after years if Narc abuse and she feels helpless and lost. I wish SHE had left him 20 years ago. I hope she can afford Laura Wassar and cleans him out. Agree with PP he is narc with insufferable little man syndrome.

1. She was on TV at the time and
2. Bipolar disease absolutely can manifest later in life and
3. If she’s a drinker (which going directly from
hospital to bar and posting it on IG would suggest), all bets are off, as alcohol use disorder can cause symptoms that mimic almost any psychiatric illness.

I hope she gets the treatment needed, whatever it is.

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Her best friend Danny just posting something that supports Scott. Saying something along the lines of people falsely claim abuse when they can't take accountability of their own actions. It was posted in the instagram story but then took it down. Also bipolar can come on at any time, or she could have been treated for it and we didn't know. We don't know.

That’s not a good friend. He should be trying to make sure she gets help or privately having those conversations with her.

He probably did and saw how unhinged she became and felt compelled to speak out on behalf of Scott. She also said the two police officers were abusing her when they did the 51/50. She is not a reliable narrator in her current condition. Hopefully she can get the help she needs but at this rate she could lose custody of her kids

Right, if I saw my best friend become absolutely unhinged, I’d privately reach out to her husband to offer support. while also working to get her the help she needs.

I would never post something on my Instagram while my friend is having a breakdown. I don’t know if this is because they are “famous” or what but it seems in bad taste, no?

Actually a good true friend doesn’t reach out to the Ex who is causing the breakdown to begin with. This leaves her even more isolated and she already feels alone. Does the friend live in their house? No, then he doesn’t know the whole story. Covert narcissistic abuse is difficult to spot unless you’ve lived it. Her response is actually called “reactive abuse”. The abuser makes the victim crazy from the abuse and then acts calm and rational and then points the finger at the abused and says *See look how crazy they are”. Again. “Reactive abuse”. Look it up.

A real friend would reach out to the immediate family. The parents, siblings, etc.to offer help and support. if you don’t know the immediate family then you arent that close of a friend are you? And true friends don’t throw you under the bus on social media. They are former friends now if they ever really were friends.

Ok, this has gone off the rails. You are writing as if you have insider knowledge and you’ve got the whole narrative, full of details based entirely on your own projections.

Look - I have NO doubt that what you describe occurs, and is a common phenomenon with narcissists. I don’t dispute that at all. But that doesn’t mean it’s automatically true in this situation; untreated mental illness is also a very real and heartbreaking thing. It sounds like they’ve been through it, including their children.

Well said. There is no evidence of spousal abuse, and ample evidence of mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Her best friend Danny just posting something that supports Scott. Saying something along the lines of people falsely claim abuse when they can't take accountability of their own actions. It was posted in the instagram story but then took it down. Also bipolar can come on at any time, or she could have been treated for it and we didn't know. We don't know.

That’s not a good friend. He should be trying to make sure she gets help or privately having those conversations with her.

He probably did and saw how unhinged she became and felt compelled to speak out on behalf of Scott. She also said the two police officers were abusing her when they did the 51/50. She is not a reliable narrator in her current condition. Hopefully she can get the help she needs but at this rate she could lose custody of her kids

Right, if I saw my best friend become absolutely unhinged, I’d privately reach out to her husband to offer support. while also working to get her the help she needs.

I would never post something on my Instagram while my friend is having a breakdown. I don’t know if this is because they are “famous” or what but it seems in bad taste, no?

I think he did it in a tacit way and prob just felt strongly to speak out, that Scott isn't abusive.

Or she’s banging Scott…or wants to.

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

Yesssssss!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

So you have seen her medical records to know all her diagnoses?

Will you at least acknowledge that drinking whiskey straight out of the hospital is a bad idea?

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Or did Scott hold her down and poor the whiskey down her throat?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?

No Bipolar is a genetic chemical imbalance in the brain that can be treated by meds. Kelly probably has thousands of hours if reality TV footage that proves she’s sane. I am fairly confident that what Kelly is suffering is CPTSD also known as Complex PTSD which is often misdiagnosed as and can look like Bipolar disorder on the surface. CPTSD is caused by chronic trauma usually in the form of repeated abuse as is typically seen in victims of narcissistic abuse. Victims of CPTSD and are often stuck in flight or fright mode from walking on eggshells waiting for the next abuse cycle. Idealize (lovebombing) Devalue (abuse) Discard (threats of divorce,etc) then Calm then back to lovebombing. The charming Narcissists victim is co dependent on their abuser and the cycle is so insidious and manipulative the victim begind to lose their sense of reality. This cycle can repeat multiple times a year over decades until the final Discard which is where Kelley is now, leaving the codependent victim devastated often leading to a meltdown. As a result of abuse, CPTSD victims have a destabilized sense of self which causes like depression and anxiety which can be treated with meds but what she really needs is a great therapist and an amazing attorney. She’s not crazy, she’s abused.

So you have seen her medical records to know all her diagnoses?

Will you at least acknowledge that drinking whiskey straight out of the hospital is a bad idea?

I don’t have to see her medical records. It’s playing out like a textbook version of Narcissistic abuse, even the alienating of the children from their mother. Teens are particularly vulnerable to this manipulation because they are already rebellious. The parent in charge will lay down the law, then insteading of supporting them and the rules, the narc will do the exact opposite creating a wedge. Narcs do this to completely isolate and discredit their victim and they are cool and methodical under pressure while they do it. It’s difficult to see or understand unless you’ve experienced it but once you have, you know it when you see it.

I agree she absolutely needs help. One THOUSAND percent!!! I think as a codependent with CPTSD she is melting down for multiple reasons including abandonment, fear of the future and aging, loss of nuclear family unit, loss of identity (he’s a celeb and they falsely portrayed a “perfect family” for years ) and add in perimenopause which in itself is horrific. But she’s NOT chronically mentally ill. She IS however in crisis and making terrible decisions right now because she isn’t thinking correctly. However, she should NOT be in a bar drinking with a hospital band but she’s melting down and trying to reclaim what’s left of her life. She was forced into a mental hospital and that was her eff you to the brother in law who called her Dad and put her there. The BIL who should not even have been in HER house. The BIL was in her house “helping” so Scott could control things from afar and act as a spy. Narcs HAVE to be in control.

Kelley needs rescue meds, intense therapy, immediate help, true friends and support now because she is in crisis, not because she is bipolar but because she is abused.