Where do unconnected, top academic kids from a feeder private go to college?

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Anonymous wrote:We're talking NYC? At Horace Mann, a lot of those kids end up at Chicago or Cornell.

Correct. I think Horace Mann class of 2024 had some ridiculous number going to Chicago - I feel like 25-20 got in ED?

Mine went there, Cornell Chicago at HM are middling kids.

Mine goes there. You're incorrect.

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my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

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Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

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Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Honestly, the top 5 kids at NCS, STA can write their ticket too.
NCS top 3 this year are Wharton, Yale and Princeton
Top 5 at STA are Princeton, MIT, Yale, Brown and Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Honestly, the top 5 kids at NCS, STA can write their ticket too.
NCS top 3 this year are Wharton, Yale and Princeton
Top 5 at STA are Princeton, MIT, Yale, Brown and Harvard.

NCS students are not ranked. NCS uses a standard, unweighted 4.0 scale to calculate grade-point average.

How are you calculating "top 3"?

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Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Think this differs a little bit among the TTs. The smaller classes of Brearley and Collegiate, for example, sometimes lead to a larger percentage of kids going to top schools. This year, there are at least 30 kids from B going to the ivy league, plus one to Stanford and 5 to Chicago. Last year it was mid-20s to ivies, a couple to Chicago, plus a Stanford, MIT and Caltech (though MIT and Caltech are not common there). With a class size of 60-65, it can be a large percentage to top 20 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:If she attends a school like Sidwell, NCS, STA or GDS and she is truly in the top 10 students in the class and has decent rigor and resume then any school is possible. If she is top 5 at one of these high schools then HYPMS is almost probable if she has half way decent extracurriculars.

These schools differ than public because the kids are really stratified by grading (there is no bunching at the top). There may be one kid with a 3.95 And then 5 with grades above a 3.9. So when you are in those top kids you are highly desirable to elite colleges.

what about a level down, maybe top 20% so 3.75 - 3-9?

3.85-3.95 generally all get top25.

3.75 can get top40. At DC's Big3 school 3.8 is sort of the "line in the sand" for a top30 school. The top30 colleges don't really take the 3.7s regardless of how high their SAT score is, how great the extracurriculars are, etc. (I'm talking unhooked kids here).

3.8uw is the line at our non-DC private too

How many percent got in T25?

50%+

Among the 50% + T25, how many are hooked and below 3.8 uw?

At our private school, the legacy typically are above that gpa. The athletes are borderline. Recently the URM are at the line or above.

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If you can get the SAT to close to 1600, MIT or Caltech is possible. Being female is a HUGE boost at those schools. Harvey Mudd gives an even bigger boost to females.

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Anonymous wrote:If she attends a school like Sidwell, NCS, STA or GDS and she is truly in the top 10 students in the class and has decent rigor and resume then any school is possible. If she is top 5 at one of these high schools then HYPMS is almost probable if she has half way decent extracurriculars.

These schools differ than public because the kids are really stratified by grading (there is no bunching at the top). There may be one kid with a 3.95 And then 5 with grades above a 3.9. So when you are in those top kids you are highly desirable to elite colleges.

what about a level down, maybe top 20% so 3.75 - 3-9?

3.85-3.95 generally all get top25.

3.75 can get top40. At DC's Big3 school 3.8 is sort of the "line in the sand" for a top30 school. The top30 colleges don't really take the 3.7s regardless of how high their SAT score is, how great the extracurriculars are, etc. (I'm talking unhooked kids here).

3.8uw is the line at our non-DC private too

How many percent got in T25?

50%+

Among the 50% + T25, how many are hooked and below 3.8 uw?

At our private school, the legacy typically are above that gpa. The athletes are borderline. Recently the URM are at the line or above.

So 3.8 is the average gpa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Honestly, the top 5 kids at NCS, STA can write their ticket too.
NCS top 3 this year are Wharton, Yale and Princeton
Top 5 at STA are Princeton, MIT, Yale, Brown and Harvard.

NCS students are not ranked. NCS uses a standard, unweighted 4.0 scale to calculate grade-point average.

How are you calculating "top 3"?

3 flag day winners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Honestly, the top 5 kids at NCS, STA can write their ticket too.
NCS top 3 this year are Wharton, Yale and Princeton
Top 5 at STA are Princeton, MIT, Yale, Brown and Harvard.

these are not all unconnected kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Think this differs a little bit among the TTs. The smaller classes of Brearley and Collegiate, for example, sometimes lead to a larger percentage of kids going to top schools. This year, there are at least 30 kids from B going to the ivy league, plus one to Stanford and 5 to Chicago. Last year it was mid-20s to ivies, a couple to Chicago, plus a Stanford, MIT and Caltech (though MIT and Caltech are not common there). With a class size of 60-65, it can be a large percentage to top 20 schools.

Brearley kids are especially connected! Not what this thread is about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Honestly, the top 5 kids at NCS, STA can write their ticket too.
NCS top 3 this year are Wharton, Yale and Princeton
Top 5 at STA are Princeton, MIT, Yale, Brown and Harvard.

these are not all unconnected kids.

The NCS ones are unhooked to my knowledge. Two STA ones are also athletes but one is the valedictorian and the other is top5 academically.--both took the very top classes the school offers. They would 100% have had the same results without any athletics involved.

[Anonymous]

Why not Ivies, Stanford, MIT? My friend’s senior at the Spence School in NYC with this profile is heading to one of those schools. Strong student, unremarkable ECs and no hooks. Top grades from a well known top private without grade inflation carry a a lot of weight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my kids are at a tt nyc private. they very top (top 5) academic kids can write their ticket, even if unconnected. these kids also usually have some national level award in debate or some stem competition, etc.

kids who are not 10% of class but are in top 30%, ED to Chicago or end up at Georgetown, MI, USC, Cornell (not Dyson), Penn (not Wharton), a bunch of LACs

Honestly, the top 5 kids at NCS, STA can write their ticket too.
NCS top 3 this year are Wharton, Yale and Princeton
Top 5 at STA are Princeton, MIT, Yale, Brown and Harvard.

these are not all unconnected kids.

The NCS ones are unhooked to my knowledge. Two STA ones are also athletes but one is the valedictorian and the other is top5 academically.--both took the very top classes the school offers. They would 100% have had the same results without any athletics involved.

If I had a nickel for every time someone claims a recruited athlete would have gotten in anyhow…