ED is the name of the game

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid genuinely loves one of the schools that takes practically the whole class ED (looking at you, Chicago and Tulane), it's really a conundrum. On the one hand, with ED, they'll probably get in. But then your banking on your child not having second thoughts later on.

My DC loved Chicago and we went with it. So far, no second guessing. We'll see if it stays that way when RD accepts roll out in March.

Does Chicago actually take that many in ED? My dc is a jr and it’s the top choice rn. I feel like it’s a high reach for everyone.

Chicago is 3/4 or more ED

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ED was great for us, kid was really happy to be done with the college search and had a stress free senior year while classmates were under the gun to make a decision.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids had much better results in RD rounds.

ED can backfire easily. You pick a school if it is not your absolute tippy top first choice and have to go there without getting any chance to compare (or shop merit offers). Also, you rush an application early while kid is still figuring out what they want in college and bind yourself to the wrong college.

Do, but this is very unusual.

Not really. My nephew having regrets on ED. Wishes he aimed higher.

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Anonymous wrote:Some schools rely very heavily on ED, like UChicago (worst abuser) and UPenn. Other schools use it more sparingly, like Duke and Columbia.

They still take half the class ED. How is that sparingly?

Duke and Columbia don’t take as many kids ED compared to other schools. They both fill ~40% of their incoming class through ED, whereas schools like Penn and Brown fill 55+% of their class ED. UChicago fills ~75% of its class ED which is pretty egregious.

Fun idea: Let's dump on U Chicago and debate whether they take 20%, 30%, or 80% of the class ED.

Yuck, don’t tempt her. Meanwhile UChicago has among the highest average test scores and THE highest retention rate (along with MIT) in the country, so I think they will weather the storm just fine, ED “scandal” or not.

UChicago has been TO for years.... test scores pre 2020 cannot be compared to MIT and ivies because the others were all test required and UC was not

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Anonymous wrote:My kids had much better results in RD rounds.

ED can backfire easily. You pick a school if it is not your absolute tippy top first choice and have to go there without getting any chance to compare (or shop merit offers). Also, you rush an application early while kid is still figuring out what they want in college and bind yourself to the wrong college.

Do, but this is very unusual.

Not really. My nephew having regrets on ED. Wishes he aimed higher.

If wishy washy kids have FOMO, don't do ED.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids had much better results in RD rounds.

ED can backfire easily. You pick a school if it is not your absolute tippy top first choice and have to go there without getting any chance to compare (or shop merit offers). Also, you rush an application early while kid is still figuring out what they want in college and bind yourself to the wrong college.

Do, but this is very unusual.

Not really. My nephew having regrets on ED. Wishes he aimed higher.

Same with my niece!

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Anonymous wrote:My kids had much better results in RD rounds.

ED can backfire easily. You pick a school if it is not your absolute tippy top first choice and have to go there without getting any chance to compare (or shop merit offers). Also, you rush an application early while kid is still figuring out what they want in college and bind yourself to the wrong college.

Do, but this is very unusual.

Not really. My nephew having regrets on ED. Wishes he aimed higher.

Same with my niece!

Poor thing!

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If your kid is really clear about the school, and you are fine with taking the financial assistance they give you and funding the rest, then ED is worth it. There is no downside and potentially large upside.

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Anonymous wrote:ED really shines for the T25ish to T50.

Schools like Emory, NYU, Northeastern, WashU, Wake Forest, UMiami, BU, BC.

Full agree. Where a NARP can really get an admissions advantage by applying ED is at this collection of high-priced, highly rejective, meh schools.

Meh schools? Get your head out of your ass.

+2 Sometimes the posters on here sound like 16 year old strivers. In no world is NYU, Northeastern, WashU, Wake, UMiami, BU or BC meh schools. DCUM has gotten so juvenile.

I mean, they're all fine, but no better than Pitt or Wisconsin or UVA or W&M or UMN or any number of other public universities on the same level at half the price.

Except public schools offer a very different experience and cater to a very different type of student, on the whole, than the schools originally quoted above. Ranking is far less important than fit.

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Anonymous wrote:ED really shines for the T25ish to T50.

Schools like Emory, NYU, Northeastern, WashU, Wake Forest, UMiami, BU, BC.

comparing schools ranked 21 to schools ranked 54 is absurd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xxeYGDVH8g
This college counselor analyzed the data and determined Emory doesn't give the best advantage for ED but its Dartmouth, NYU, Northeastern, Barnard, and Columbia.

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Anonymous wrote:Some schools rely very heavily on ED, like UChicago (worst abuser) and UPenn. Other schools use it more sparingly, like Duke and Columbia.

They still take half the class ED. How is that sparingly?

Duke and Columbia don’t take as many kids ED compared to other schools. They both fill ~40% of their incoming class through ED, whereas schools like Penn and Brown fill 55+% of their class ED. UChicago fills ~75% of its class ED which is pretty egregious.

Brown was 34% last year, not sure where you are getting your statistics from. Think that’s pretty typical.

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Anonymous wrote:ED is for schools, athletes, and suckers. Everyone who plays falls into one of those three buckets.

Wrong. ED is for students who have an absolute top choice school and want to show that school that they will attend if accepted. It benefits the student just as much as the school.

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Kids are applying to 10-15 schools , but can only attend ONE when the process is over.

A strategic ED choice for a applicant's #1 option is a smart one. The NPC isn't going to magically change in RD.

Exactly. I have to wonder why the hate for ED. No one is forced to apply ED, so if you're uncomfortable with it - don't! The people who ARE ready to commit should absolutely have that option. Every school should offer ED.

No way. ED is another way for schools to favor rich students while securing their class rather than just admitting the best students in a nonbonding way. The best schools don’t have to lower their standards to get students in ED. They do EA.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids had much better results in RD rounds.

ED can backfire easily. You pick a school if it is not your absolute tippy top first choice and have to go there without getting any chance to compare (or shop merit offers). Also, you rush an application early while kid is still figuring out what they want in college and bind yourself to the wrong college.

Do, but this is very unusual.

Not really. My nephew having regrets on ED. Wishes he aimed higher.

Many kids have regrets with ED. It starts now with EA acceptances but really gets bad when kids get RD decisions in the spring.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid genuinely loves one of the schools that takes practically the whole class ED (looking at you, Chicago and Tulane), it's really a conundrum. On the one hand, with ED, they'll probably get in. But then your banking on your child not having second thoughts later on.

My DC loved Chicago and we went with it. So far, no second guessing. We'll see if it stays that way when RD accepts roll out in March.

Does Chicago actually take that many in ED? My dc is a jr and it’s the top choice rn. I feel like it’s a high reach for everyone.

Yes, Chicago is a target for ED1. I believe they accept 80% of ED1 applicants from our school. (it's hard to tell in Naviance since it doesn't distinguish between ED1 & ED2, but our grade isn't that large, DC mostly knew where kids were applying).

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Anonymous wrote:ED is for schools, athletes, and suckers. Everyone who plays falls into one of those three buckets.

Wrong. ED is for students who have an absolute top choice school and want to show that school that they will attend if accepted. It benefits the student just as much as the school.

+1

Kids are applying to 10-15 schools , but can only attend ONE when the process is over.

A strategic ED choice for a applicant's #1 option is a smart one. The NPC isn't going to magically change in RD.

Exactly. I have to wonder why the hate for ED. No one is forced to apply ED, so if you're uncomfortable with it - don't! The people who ARE ready to commit should absolutely have that option. Every school should offer ED.

No way. ED is another way for schools to favor rich students while securing their class rather than just admitting the best students in a nonbonding way. The best schools don’t have to lower their standards to get students in ED. They do EA.

Most of the T20 offer very good financial aid. If you do the NPC and it's manageable, I don't see why middle class students wouldn't apply ED to highly selective private schools. Financial aid doesn't get magically better in RD. I think ED is only a bad idea for those who don't qualify for financial aid, and are looking for merit at lower ranked schools. And no, students admitted ED to T20 schools are not weaker than those accepted RD.