Offer/Tryouts Etiquette

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MANY coaches do not play bench players at all, even in the younger years. I have seen it and its sad.


That's not a youth coach.
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Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


It depends on the player and coach. If the stronger team has a coach who develops, then it's best to move the player to the stronger team so they develop through the season. If it's a coach who just wants to win, then it's not worth it. Even kids on the bench get 20-25 minutes of play time versus the entire game (in most cases).

Every scenario is different and it depends on what the player goals are.


When it is understood that training is more important than games, many kids will be better off for their development.
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Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


My kid has been a bubble player every time that they've joined a new team. They are very competitive and tend to play up to the level of player they train with. They start out not getting playing time, but usually work themselves into a starting position. I would much rather my kid start off as the last person picked for a good team than be the star of a bad team.
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Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


My kid has been a bubble player every time that they've joined a new team. They are very competitive and tend to play up to the level of player they train with. They start out not getting playing time, but usually work themselves into a starting position. I would much rather my kid start off as the last person picked for a good team than be the star of a bad team.


Exactly. While it's an ego and confidence boost to be the best player on a team, that doesn't always mean it's the best for the kid. If the goal is to develop and become better they need to be on a team with a coach (and players) who challenge them. My DD was the same and now that DD is on stronger team she's more focused and really works hard on her technical skills and other aspects of soccer whereas before it was just like "Meh, does it matter if I pass better when no one on the team has decent first touch to even get the ball?"
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


It depends on the player and coach. If the stronger team has a coach who develops, then it's best to move the player to the stronger team so they develop through the season. If it's a coach who just wants to win, then it's not worth it. Even kids on the bench get 20-25 minutes of play time versus the entire game (in most cases).

Every scenario is different and it depends on what the player goals are.


When it is understood that training is more important than games, many kids will be better off for their development.


Found the bad coach. Its supposed to be fun. They "practice" in order to play in the games. That's why its called practice. Practicing all the time and never getting to play is demoralizing
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


It depends on the player and coach. If the stronger team has a coach who develops, then it's best to move the player to the stronger team so they develop through the season. If it's a coach who just wants to win, then it's not worth it. Even kids on the bench get 20-25 minutes of play time versus the entire game (in most cases).

Every scenario is different and it depends on what the player goals are.


When it is understood that training is more important than games, many kids will be better off for their development.


Found the bad coach. Its supposed to be fun. They "practice" in order to play in the games. That's why its called practice. Practicing all the time and never getting to play is demoralizing


What did you say to change the known, recognized and acknowledged fact that training is more important than games?

You think your kid playing 30 minutes on Saturday and touching the ball 6 times is more important than the hundreds of touches at practice during the week?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


My kid has been a bubble player every time that they've joined a new team. They are very competitive and tend to play up to the level of player they train with. They start out not getting playing time, but usually work themselves into a starting position. I would much rather my kid start off as the last person picked for a good team than be the star of a bad team.


That’s great for your kid, but that’s not every kids personality. Not everyone is trying to be the best player on the best team. You have to meet kids where they are. Every parent needs to make a different decision based on their own child, the personality, their ability and their aspirations.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


It depends on the player and coach. If the stronger team has a coach who develops, then it's best to move the player to the stronger team so they develop through the season. If it's a coach who just wants to win, then it's not worth it. Even kids on the bench get 20-25 minutes of play time versus the entire game (in most cases).

Every scenario is different and it depends on what the player goals are.


When it is understood that training is more important than games, many kids will be better off for their development.


Found the bad coach. Its supposed to be fun. They "practice" in order to play in the games. That's why its called practice. Practicing all the time and never getting to play is demoralizing


Then you don't understand sports. Practice is more important than play time in during many age groups. Players practice to get better. Players need to train on ball possession, first touch, passing, striking, fakes, turns, etc. These are developed during practice not games.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


It depends on the player and coach. If the stronger team has a coach who develops, then it's best to move the player to the stronger team so they develop through the season. If it's a coach who just wants to win, then it's not worth it. Even kids on the bench get 20-25 minutes of play time versus the entire game (in most cases).

Every scenario is different and it depends on what the player goals are.


When it is understood that training is more important than games, many kids will be better off for their development.


Found the bad coach. Its supposed to be fun. They "practice" in order to play in the games. That's why its called practice. Practicing all the time and never getting to play is demoralizing


Then you don't understand sports. Practice is more important than play time in during many age groups. Players practice to get better. Players need to train on ball possession, first touch, passing, striking, fakes, turns, etc. These are developed during practice not games.


Try seeing things from the kids' POV
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Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


It depends on the player and coach. If the stronger team has a coach who develops, then it's best to move the player to the stronger team so they develop through the season. If it's a coach who just wants to win, then it's not worth it. Even kids on the bench get 20-25 minutes of play time versus the entire game (in most cases).

Every scenario is different and it depends on what the player goals are.


When it is understood that training is more important than games, many kids will be better off for their development.


Found the bad coach. Its supposed to be fun. They "practice" in order to play in the games. That's why its called practice. Practicing all the time and never getting to play is demoralizing


Then you don't understand sports. Practice is more important than play time in during many age groups. Players practice to get better. Players need to train on ball possession, first touch, passing, striking, fakes, turns, etc. These are developed during practice not games.


Try seeing things from the kids' POV


I imagine the kid who isn't practicing well isn't playing much or well so probably isn't enjoying their time out on the pitch
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MANY coaches do not play bench players at all, even in the younger years. I have seen it and its sad.


if you want equal playing time play rec. news flash not all players are as equally skilled, the best players should get more game minutes
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:MANY coaches do not play bench players at all, even in the younger years. I have seen it and its sad.


if you want equal playing time play rec. news flash not all players are as equally skilled, the best players should get more game minutes


At young ages, playing time should be as equal as possible
If it's about development over winning as it should be, then everyone should play.

Or don't complain that the bench players are no good when they come in occasionally
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise


I argue don't join a team where your DC is a bubble player. Do you really want child to ride the bench? Going up a level to watch games from the bench is no fun for kids. That's what I've seen with mine and teammates who are watching better teammates play but not them. Go to a team which values your child. Don't be a bubble player.


It depends on the player and coach. If the stronger team has a coach who develops, then it's best to move the player to the stronger team so they develop through the season. If it's a coach who just wants to win, then it's not worth it. Even kids on the bench get 20-25 minutes of play time versus the entire game (in most cases).

Every scenario is different and it depends on what the player goals are.


When it is understood that training is more important than games, many kids will be better off for their development.


Found the bad coach. Its supposed to be fun. They "practice" in order to play in the games. That's why its called practice. Practicing all the time and never getting to play is demoralizing


Then you don't understand sports. Practice is more important than play time in during many age groups. Players practice to get better. Players need to train on ball possession, first touch, passing, striking, fakes, turns, etc. These are developed during practice not games.


Try seeing things from the kids' POV


I do. Most kids who actually want to learn and get better at playing soccer knowing training/development is important. If a kid just wants to play go play rec.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MANY coaches do not play bench players at all, even in the younger years. I have seen it and its sad.


if you want equal playing time play rec. news flash not all players are as equally skilled, the best players should get more game minutes


At young ages, playing time should be as equal as possible
If it's about development over winning as it should be, then everyone should play.

Or don't complain that the bench players are no good when they come in occasionally



Don't forget to not complain when the bench gets worse every year as players move to teams where they can play. Not to mention the terrible team dynamics when you have a bunch of 11 year olds whose families are expected to drive an hour to watch them not play
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MANY coaches do not play bench players at all, even in the younger years. I have seen it and its sad.


if you want equal playing time play rec. news flash not all players are as equally skilled, the best players should get more game minutes


At young ages, playing time should be as equal as possible
If it's about development over winning as it should be, then everyone should play.

Or don't complain that the bench players are no good when they come in occasionally


development doesn't occur in games...a player may touch the ball 5~6 times in a half...they get 5~6 touches in the first 2 mins of practice. Everyone should play in rec, not travel
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