TJ parents - would your kid do it again? Best tips for success for a positive experience?

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Po-Shen Loh, the former IMO coach for the USA Math team has written about this style of coaching, explicitly mentioning Indian teaching style.

It is just painful to see bright young students misguided by parents who dont know better. If any are interested, read up on what Dr. Po-Shen Loh has written.

Many go to Curie and then end up hiring tutors all through high school to keep up.

You do you.

Do you have a link to Dr. Po saying this about "indian style teaching"

BTW, how many of the regeneron semifinalists this year do you think are curie alums?

He wrote a blog post on how it is difficult for him to give advice for people from India because of the reasons I mention above.

As to regeneron semifinalists, I know how that works and who is helping/doing the work.
I was a judge for several years.

Dr. Po-Shen Loh has high regard for Indian American students, who were part of the winning teams he coached.

"US Team with two Indian Americans win International Mathematical Olympiad after 21 years"
https://www.theindianpanorama.news/unitedstates/us-team-with-two-indian-americans-win-international-mathematical-olympiad-after-21-years/amp/

Three Indian American Teens Win Gold in International Olympiad Competitions: Physics, Math, History
https://www.indianeagle.com/travelbeats/indian-american-winners-international-olympiad-competitions-2018/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

Yet, every year TJ has the most number of HYPMS admits compared to any other base high school. Base school receives less than 5 offers, but TH averages between 25 to 50 offers, with tuition being the deciding factor for acceptance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Po-Shen Loh, the former IMO coach for the USA Math team has written about this style of coaching, explicitly mentioning Indian teaching style.

It is just painful to see bright young students misguided by parents who dont know better. If any are interested, read up on what Dr. Po-Shen Loh has written.

Many go to Curie and then end up hiring tutors all through high school to keep up.

You do you.

Do you have a link to Dr. Po saying this about "indian style teaching"

BTW, how many of the regeneron semifinalists this year do you think are curie alums?

He wrote a blog post on how it is difficult for him to give advice for people from India because of the reasons I mention above.

As to regeneron semifinalists, I know how that works and who is helping/doing the work.
I was a judge for several years.

Dr. Po-Shen Loh has high regard for Indian American students, who were part of the winning teams he coached.

"US Team with two Indian Americans win International Mathematical Olympiad after 21 years"
https://www.theindianpanorama.news/unitedstates/us-team-with-two-indian-americans-win-international-mathematical-olympiad-after-21-years/amp/

Three Indian American Teens Win Gold in International Olympiad Competitions: Physics, Math, History
https://www.indianeagle.com/travelbeats/indian-american-winners-international-olympiad-competitions-2018/

That is not what I said.

He is talked about students in India. Many students in India reach out to him for practice and he is despairing of the teaching technique there. How he is unable to help them because they are used to practice using examples and speed/accuracy is emphasized.

I am Indian, Dr. Po-Shen Loh helped my child in so many ways. He is not talking about the Indian students in USA. He is talking about teaching methods in India which are exact same as Curie. How fundamentally flawed they were. No it not a commentary on Indian students, just the method we have in India. It does help with IIT and Dr. Po-Shen Loh mentions why that same practicing for IIT is so bad. I do not have that blog post handy. You should read it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

Yet, every year TJ has the most number of HYPMS admits compared to any other base high school. Base school receives less than 5 offers, but TH averages between 25 to 50 offers, with tuition being the deciding factor for acceptance.

All true. Top 25 TJ students increase their chances of admission to HYPSM. For the next 100 TJ reduces their chances of HYPSM compared to base HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

Yet, every year TJ has the most number of HYPMS admits compared to any other base high school. Base school receives less than 5 offers, but TH averages between 25 to 50 offers, with tuition being the deciding factor for acceptance.

All true. Top 25 TJ students increase their chances of admission to HYPSM. For the next 100 TJ reduces their chances of HYPSM compared to base HS.

For next 100 top TJ students, the chances of T20 are ten times better than overall top 5% from base school, for competitive majors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

Yet, every year TJ has the most number of HYPMS admits compared to any other base high school. Base school receives less than 5 offers, but TH averages between 25 to 50 offers, with tuition being the deciding factor for acceptance.

All true. Top 25 TJ students increase their chances of admission to HYPSM. For the next 100 TJ reduces their chances of HYPSM compared to base HS.

For next 100 top TJ students, the chances of T20 are ten times better than overall top 5% from base school, for competitive majors.

I would say higher for the next 25 (students ranked 26-50, 90-95th percentile), about even for the next 50 (80-90th percentile) and then it is significantly worse for the rest.

A student ranked 50th at TJ would have been the top 1 or 2 students at the base high school, that along with the much stronger recommendation letters from base HS, and much more leadership opportunities at base HS would give the advantage coming form base HS.

If you look at CDS, the top 10% by GPA makes up 97% to 98% of the class at the T20 schools. This is where unfortunately very good TJ students get dinged in admissions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

Yet, every year TJ has the most number of HYPMS admits compared to any other base high school. Base school receives less than 5 offers, but TH averages between 25 to 50 offers, with tuition being the deciding factor for acceptance.

All true. Top 25 TJ students increase their chances of admission to HYPSM. For the next 100 TJ reduces their chances of HYPSM compared to base HS.

For next 100 top TJ students, the chances of T20 are ten times better than overall top 5% from base school, for competitive majors.

I would say higher for the next 25 (students ranked 26-50, 90-95th percentile), about even for the next 50 (80-90th percentile) and then it is significantly worse for the rest.

A student ranked 50th at TJ would have been the top 1 or 2 students at the base high school, that along with the much stronger recommendation letters from base HS, and much more leadership opportunities at base HS would give the advantage coming form base HS.

If you look at CDS, the top 10% by GPA makes up 97% to 98% of the class at the T20 schools. This is where unfortunately very good TJ students get dinged in admissions.

+1
If your kid is truly off the charts, TJ is the best spot for them because of what it uniquely offers.

If they are just a normal very driven and high performing kid then you need to decide if you want to pick for: 1) fit or 2) college goals. For the right kids TJ’s social and academic fit are invaluable. But it does come at a trade-off on college prospects.

[Anonymous]

+1

If u think ur kid is going to be in the top 25% at TJ - TJ works great.

But for the majority (75%) - get hit on college admissions because they cannot maintain a GPA over 4.3 - 4.4 - and colleges DO NOT handicap a 4.1 TJ GPA. Its still seen as a 4.1 from any other school.

I wish the TJ staff were more upfront about this to new families considering TJ.

In most cases base school is better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1

If u think ur kid is going to be in the top 25% at TJ - TJ works great.

But for the majority (75%) - get hit on college admissions because they cannot maintain a GPA over 4.3 - 4.4 - and colleges DO NOT handicap a 4.1 TJ GPA. Its still seen as a 4.1 from any other school.

I wish the TJ staff were more upfront about this to new families considering TJ.

In most cases base school is better.

I agree with most of this and my DC recognizes the hit she takes in going to TJ rather than our base school. But she would still pick TJ again. That’s how important the school vibe/fit is. But yes you need to be eyes open about it.

[Anonymous]

Yes. It’s worth it. My kid enjoys the school but it isn’t an easy curriculum. Has been very successful thus far with selective college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1

If u think ur kid is going to be in the top 25% at TJ - TJ works great.

But for the majority (75%) - get hit on college admissions because they cannot maintain a GPA over 4.3 - 4.4 - and colleges DO NOT handicap a 4.1 TJ GPA. Its still seen as a 4.1 from any other school.

I wish the TJ staff were more upfront about this to new families considering TJ.

In most cases base school is better.

You are talking about the difference between Georgia tech vs Carnegie mellon. Nobody is cheating themselves out of MIT or Stanford.

[Anonymous]

How is the social life at tj

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

Yet, every year TJ has the most number of HYPMS admits compared to any other base high school. Base school receives less than 5 offers, but TH averages between 25 to 50 offers, with tuition being the deciding factor for acceptance.

All true. Top 25 TJ students increase their chances of admission to HYPSM. For the next 100 TJ reduces their chances of HYPSM compared to base HS.

For next 100 top TJ students, the chances of T20 are ten times better than overall top 5% from base school, for competitive majors.

I would say higher for the next 25 (students ranked 26-50, 90-95th percentile), about even for the next 50 (80-90th percentile) and then it is significantly worse for the rest.

A student ranked 50th at TJ would have been the top 1 or 2 students at the base high school, that along with the much stronger recommendation letters from base HS, and much more leadership opportunities at base HS would give the advantage coming form base HS.

If you look at CDS, the top 10% by GPA makes up 97% to 98% of the class at the T20 schools. This is where unfortunately very good TJ students get dinged in admissions.

New to all this- how do you look at common data sets for schools? Would someone be able to please provide link as did Google search and getting strange results. Thank you

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Anonymous wrote:TJ Parents - if your kid had a chance to go back and do it all again, would they? If yes, what was one of their favorite parts about TJ?

Any tips or hints for success -- not just academically, but to have a positive experience there?

Yes. Being around TJ kids. A lot of other brilliant kids with their own quirks. The chance to flourish socially where base school would not have been much harder on that front. If you are fine going to UVA or VT, it is great. If your kid has sights on HYPMS, then you are crippling your chances as there are easily 80 kids with perfect grades and SAT scores at 1580 or above that have nationally recognized honors from competitions or research.

Yet, every year TJ has the most number of HYPMS admits compared to any other base high school. Base school receives less than 5 offers, but TH averages between 25 to 50 offers, with tuition being the deciding factor for acceptance.

All true. Top 25 TJ students increase their chances of admission to HYPSM. For the next 100 TJ reduces their chances of HYPSM compared to base HS.

For next 100 top TJ students, the chances of T20 are ten times better than overall top 5% from base school, for competitive majors.

I would say higher for the next 25 (students ranked 26-50, 90-95th percentile), about even for the next 50 (80-90th percentile) and then it is significantly worse for the rest.

A student ranked 50th at TJ would have been the top 1 or 2 students at the base high school, that along with the much stronger recommendation letters from base HS, and much more leadership opportunities at base HS would give the advantage coming form base HS.

If you look at CDS, the top 10% by GPA makes up 97% to 98% of the class at the T20 schools. This is where unfortunately very good TJ students get dinged in admissions.

thanks for the chuckle…same goes for the +1 parents agreeing with this.