Is it true the Lacrosse player from Lightridge HS was Bullied or not?

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Anonymous wrote:why does Indy being state runner up matter? that was last year and a team heavy with Seniors who are now gone. She would have to try out still, make the team, and even need to make an impact on that team...... I could see all the uproar if this was a USA All American, or a top 100 player in the country... Again this isn't the IAAM or WCAC..... it would harm no one, not even the prior school to at least allow the kid to try out, or even play, it all seems very silly...

Kind of mixed on this one. On one side those who attend Loudoun public schools know the transfer rule and requirement to sit out sports for a year. I believe this also includes a student needing to sit out for a year even when moving into a new school zone. So, before pursuing this option one better have all their ducks in a row if they want to play sports following a transfer. This would not be the first time a transfer student was denied a waiver to play sports at another Loudoun school.

On the other side, and highlighted above, this seems to be a player who will have minimal impact at Indy. She’s committed to Kenyon College, not necessarily a lacrosse hotbed for top talent. Don’t buy into the college commit hype, Kenyon would lose to many college club teams. So, really no big advantage gained by the student or Indy by her playing lacrosse at her new school.

What is at issue is this student appears to have intentionally bypassed two closer high schools to play for her club coach. Which falls in line with why Loudoun has their transfer policy in place. We all want student safety first, but in this case the student had other reasonable options to remedy the problem she allegedly experienced at LR by attending a closer high school. Everyone needs to play within the rules, which the Indy coach should have known well and this player's parents should have educated themselves on. Hoping something will work out is never a great strategy.

Kenyon was 18-2 and finished third in the NCAA tournament last year. I realize it's Division 3, but I think you're downplaying unfairly.

Kenyon has a fine program, but it didn’t finish third in the tournament last year. It lost in the third round (which is the round before the quarterfinals) where it got smoked by Pomona-Pitzer. Laxnumbers.com had them ranked in the top-50 D3s at the end of last year but in D3 there is a steep drop off from the top 10-15 schools, some of which could actually compete with the mid- to lower-tier D1 schools.

You are completely missing the point. Sure, a Kenyon-caliber team would lose to most D1 or possibly even top club teams. But there's still a barrier to entry to even make a Kenyon caliber team that 92% of high school athletes can't clear. The player in question is by definition "elite" and the transfer would be unfair to other teams in the HS league.

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Who cares where she transfers to!! It’s her choice not yours. Move along

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares where she transfers to!! It’s her choice not yours. Move along

No one cares that she transferred. But the same statewide VHSL athletic eligibility requirements apply to her as anyone else who transfers. That's the issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Indy lacrosse has had a lot of controversy in the past year. The Dad on the boys team who got the coach fired, the girls coach who allegedly embezzled, and now this. I assume that this transfer attempt was a team effort between the coach and the family?

Don't forget tyhe girls who was on the recruiting trail getting blackballed by a number of programs after talking bad about a team she was visiting with.

Huh? Who was blackballed and how do you know?

I, also would like to know who, how (you know), and why this was put into words?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Indy lacrosse has had a lot of controversy in the past year. The Dad on the boys team who got the coach fired, the girls coach who allegedly embezzled, and now this. I assume that this transfer attempt was a team effort between the coach and the family?

Don't forget tyhe girls who was on the recruiting trail getting blackballed by a number of programs after talking bad about a team she was visiting with.

Huh? Who was blackballed and how do you know?

IDon't forget tyhe girls who was on the recruiting trail getting blackballed by a number of programs after talking bad about a team she was visiting with., also would like to know who, how (you know), and why this was put into words?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why does Indy being state runner up matter? that was last year and a team heavy with Seniors who are now gone. She would have to try out still, make the team, and even need to make an impact on that team...... I could see all the uproar if this was a USA All American, or a top 100 player in the country... Again this isn't the IAAM or WCAC..... it would harm no one, not even the prior school to at least allow the kid to try out, or even play, it all seems very silly...

Kind of mixed on this one. On one side those who attend Loudoun public schools know the transfer rule and requirement to sit out sports for a year. I believe this also includes a student needing to sit out for a year even when moving into a new school zone. So, before pursuing this option one better have all their ducks in a row if they want to play sports following a transfer. This would not be the first time a transfer student was denied a waiver to play sports at another Loudoun school.

On the other side, and highlighted above, this seems to be a player who will have minimal impact at Indy. She’s committed to Kenyon College, not necessarily a lacrosse hotbed for top talent. Don’t buy into the college commit hype, Kenyon would lose to many college club teams. So, really no big advantage gained by the student or Indy by her playing lacrosse at her new school.

What is at issue is this student appears to have intentionally bypassed two closer high schools to play for her club coach. Which falls in line with why Loudoun has their transfer policy in place. We all want student safety first, but in this case the student had other reasonable options to remedy the problem she allegedly experienced at LR by attending a closer high school. Everyone needs to play within the rules, which the Indy coach should have known well and this player's parents should have educated themselves on. Hoping something will work out is never a great strategy.

Kenyon was 18-2 and finished third in the NCAA tournament last year. I realize it's Division 3, but I think you're downplaying unfairly.

Kenyon has a fine program, but it didn’t finish third in the tournament last year. It lost in the third round (which is the round before the quarterfinals) where it got smoked by Pomona-Pitzer. Laxnumbers.com had them ranked in the top-50 D3s at the end of last year but in D3 there is a steep drop off from the top 10-15 schools, some of which could actually compete with the mid- to lower-tier D1 schools.

You are completely missing the point. Sure, a Kenyon-caliber team would lose to most D1 or possibly even top club teams. But there's still a barrier to entry to even make a Kenyon caliber team that 92% of high school athletes can't clear. The player in question is by definition "elite" and the transfer would be unfair to other teams in the HS league.

This is like saying the last kid picked for the dodgeball team is “elite”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares where she transfers to!! It’s her choice not yours. Move along

Correct, it’s her choice to transfer where she wants. It was also her choice to transfer knowing she would have to sit out a year of sports based on LCPS policies. Hoping to bend the rules was not a great strategy when others before her had been denied waivers to other LCPS schools. I don’t think people fault the student, this falls on Indy and her parents for steering her in the wrong direction if lacrosse was so important to her.

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Anonymous wrote:why does Indy being state runner up matter? that was last year and a team heavy with Seniors who are now gone. She would have to try out still, make the team, and even need to make an impact on that team...... I could see all the uproar if this was a USA All American, or a top 100 player in the country... Again this isn't the IAAM or WCAC..... it would harm no one, not even the prior school to at least allow the kid to try out, or even play, it all seems very silly...

Kind of mixed on this one. On one side those who attend Loudoun public schools know the transfer rule and requirement to sit out sports for a year. I believe this also includes a student needing to sit out for a year even when moving into a new school zone. So, before pursuing this option one better have all their ducks in a row if they want to play sports following a transfer. This would not be the first time a transfer student was denied a waiver to play sports at another Loudoun school.

On the other side, and highlighted above, this seems to be a player who will have minimal impact at Indy. She’s committed to Kenyon College, not necessarily a lacrosse hotbed for top talent. Don’t buy into the college commit hype, Kenyon would lose to many college club teams. So, really no big advantage gained by the student or Indy by her playing lacrosse at her new school.

What is at issue is this student appears to have intentionally bypassed two closer high schools to play for her club coach. Which falls in line with why Loudoun has their transfer policy in place. We all want student safety first, but in this case the student had other reasonable options to remedy the problem she allegedly experienced at LR by attending a closer high school. Everyone needs to play within the rules, which the Indy coach should have known well and this player's parents should have educated themselves on. Hoping something will work out is never a great strategy.

Kenyon was 18-2 and finished third in the NCAA tournament last year. I realize it's Division 3, but I think you're downplaying unfairly.

Kenyon has a fine program, but it didn’t finish third in the tournament last year. It lost in the third round (which is the round before the quarterfinals) where it got smoked by Pomona-Pitzer. Laxnumbers.com had them ranked in the top-50 D3s at the end of last year but in D3 there is a steep drop off from the top 10-15 schools, some of which could actually compete with the mid- to lower-tier D1 schools.

You are completely missing the point. Sure, a Kenyon-caliber team would lose to most D1 or possibly even top club teams. But there's still a barrier to entry to even make a Kenyon caliber team that 92% of high school athletes can't clear. The player in question is by definition "elite" and the transfer would be unfair to other teams in the HS league.

This is like saying the last kid picked for the dodgeball team is “elite”.

It really is not. In any case, stressing "I'm going to play in college" in her media interviews probably didn't help her case.

[Anonymous]

I know the family and yes, the girl was bullied throughout HS.

[Anonymous]

This horse was beaten to death 5 pages ago.

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Anonymous wrote:This horse was beaten to death 5 pages ago.

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know the family and yes, the girl was bullied throughout HS.

was it reported through the channels at Lightridge, and if so, how did they respond?

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Anonymous wrote:I know the family and yes, the girl was bullied throughout HS.

no more than anyone else was i'm sure. there's a difference in bullying and not being liked.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares where she transfers to!! It’s her choice not yours. Move along

Correct, it’s her choice to transfer where she wants. It was also her choice to transfer knowing she would have to sit out a year of sports based on LCPS policies. Hoping to bend the rules was not a great strategy when others before her had been denied waivers to other LCPS schools. I don’t think people fault the student, this falls on Indy and her parents for steering her in the wrong direction if lacrosse was so important to her.

The rules exist for a reason. if transferring schools to play a sport were allowed just because a girl or a family REALLY wants to do so, and they won't take no for an answer, I have no doubt there would be a steady merry go round of players changing schools when they don't like their coach, want to play with friends, want to get on a better team, or whatever. It would be even worse on the boys side. forgive me for asking a question that is probably answered above, but I don't have time to read all seven pages, but why does this family think there should be an exception here?