DD Missed Try Outs

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Anonymous wrote:If you child's excuse was religion (like after sunset on Friday) or medical I think the coach is unreasonable. since the other girls reason was medical then it is reasonable.

Also, whether you like it or not, super stars get to make the team even if they are unable to make tryouts.


Sunset after Friday isn't unreasonable if the kid never told the coach ahead of time which you would have plenty of ability to do. If you just don't show up, the coach has no way of knowing why you didn't show up.



At our school it’s honored.


After the fact?
That's absurd. Jews observing the sabbath isn't something that just started last week. Observant Jews know in advance that they will not be able to make soccer tryouts after sundown on a Friday and should tell the coach ahead of time, not after the fact.


Our coaches are not so stupid they need to be told it's the Sabbath.


Most coaches aren't going to make assumptions about people's religions and their level of observation, and hold spaces. They need to be told "I observe the Sabbath, and can't attend try outs on X date." in advance.



Also, many HSs have limited field or gym space and you have many sports all holding tryouts at the same time.

If the coach is told you either take the Friday night slot, or find a way to conduct tryouts on your own..you take the Friday slot.

Also, tons of football games and basketball games happen on a Friday night. I don't hear much outrage about that.
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Anonymous wrote:If you child's excuse was religion (like after sunset on Friday) or medical I think the coach is unreasonable. since the other girls reason was medical then it is reasonable.

Also, whether you like it or not, super stars get to make the team even if they are unable to make tryouts.


Sunset after Friday isn't unreasonable if the kid never told the coach ahead of time which you would have plenty of ability to do. If you just don't show up, the coach has no way of knowing why you didn't show up.



At our school it’s honored.


After the fact?
That's absurd. Jews observing the sabbath isn't something that just started last week. Observant Jews know in advance that they will not be able to make soccer tryouts after sundown on a Friday and should tell the coach ahead of time, not after the fact.


Our coaches are not so stupid they need to be told it's the Sabbath.


Most coaches aren't going to make assumptions about people's religions and their level of observation, and hold spaces. They need to be told "I observe the Sabbath, and can't attend try outs on X date." in advance.



Also, many HSs have limited field or gym space and you have many sports all holding tryouts at the same time.

If the coach is told you either take the Friday night slot, or find a way to conduct tryouts on your own..you take the Friday slot.

Also, tons of football games and basketball games happen on a Friday night. I don't hear much outrage about that.


This is a good point. The sports our kids played always had Friday night games so if a Friday evening tryout doesn’t work wouldn’t there be an issue throughout the season?
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No, don’t contact the principal over this, but DO reach out to the coach and explain the funeral! She may not get a spot, and there may not be a a second try-out, but they can possibly arrange a meeting. Inquire.
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Agree with PP who suggested that she volunteer to be the team manager. Otherwise have her go out for another sport like track to keep in shape.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s reasonable to have a young child think “I need to email my coach” in the middle of a family member dying.

I’d call the principal and ask for a tryout but the coach will be a di$k and say she didn’t make it.

If she’s a lower clansman I’d just stick with the club team since this same coach will be there next year.



I don't think it's reasonable to have a "young child" in high school. Maybe 13 at the youngest.


She's clearly not a senior, she is 15 years old. Yes that is a young child.


I think the issue for me is that if she was too young to be expected to do it herself, then it is the parent’s responsibility. I have one kid who is old enough to communicate with his coach, that is on him. I have one kid that isn't old enough to be that independent. That doesn’t mean we don’t communicate with the coach, that means a parent is responsible.


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I think people are insane if you think I’m (or my child) is worrying about sports tryouts during the death of my parent.

Insane!

My kids are D1 athletes and as crazy as coaches are I don’t know one that expects a child or their parent to think of him 1st while a parent is dying.

Literally Insane.
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Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP who suggested that she volunteer to be the team manager. Otherwise have her go out for another sport like track to keep in shape.


I have 2 family members who received scholarships as team managers in college.
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Anonymous wrote:You should not reach out to AD or Principal. Your dd should play on a club team, and keep improving, and attend the tryouts next year. If you reach out, even IF coach takes her this year because he has to, unless she's a true prodigy, she won't make the team again. And yes, if the 2 injured players, who have played for the coach before will heal before the season (meaning not an ACL for example), it IS appropriate to hold those 2 spots


And she likely won’t play.

She needs to take this as a life lesson to be responsible for making sure all bases are covered. She could’ve even asked a friend to reach out on her behalf.

Her only response to the coach should be along the lines of ‘thank you for the response. I’m disappointed that I missed the tryouts, but understand your rule. I’m joining club xxx to make sure I’m ready to go next year. Should a roster spot open this year, I’d love the opportunity to try out for it.’


Everyone who says this is a life lesson is being a dick. In the real world, people have empathy, which is something many of you lack. This is a kid who just lost a grandparent. It's not time for "teaching a life lesson."


+ 1000.

Pretty sickening to see adults relishing in a child's sadness. Tells you everything you need to know about them.
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Anonymous wrote:You should not reach out to AD or Principal. Your dd should play on a club team, and keep improving, and attend the tryouts next year. If you reach out, even IF coach takes her this year because he has to, unless she's a true prodigy, she won't make the team again. And yes, if the 2 injured players, who have played for the coach before will heal before the season (meaning not an ACL for example), it IS appropriate to hold those 2 spots


And she likely won’t play.

She needs to take this as a life lesson to be responsible for making sure all bases are covered. She could’ve even asked a friend to reach out on her behalf.

Her only response to the coach should be along the lines of ‘thank you for the response. I’m disappointed that I missed the tryouts, but understand your rule. I’m joining club xxx to make sure I’m ready to go next year. Should a roster spot open this year, I’d love the opportunity to try out for it.’




Everyone who says this is a life lesson is being a dick. In the real world, people have empathy, which is something many of you lack. This is a kid who just lost a grandparent. It's not time for "teaching a life lesson."


+ 1000.



Pretty sickening to see adults relishing in a child's sadness. Tells you everything you need to know about them.


I don’t think people are purposely not being empathetic. I think they’re saying that if the coach had no idea of a student with interest and held tryouts as published and set the team, what else can be done for this year?
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Anonymous wrote:You should not reach out to AD or Principal. Your dd should play on a club team, and keep improving, and attend the tryouts next year. If you reach out, even IF coach takes her this year because he has to, unless she's a true prodigy, she won't make the team again. And yes, if the 2 injured players, who have played for the coach before will heal before the season (meaning not an ACL for example), it IS appropriate to hold those 2 spots


And she likely won’t play.

She needs to take this as a life lesson to be responsible for making sure all bases are covered. She could’ve even asked a friend to reach out on her behalf.

Her only response to the coach should be along the lines of ‘thank you for the response. I’m disappointed that I missed the tryouts, but understand your rule. I’m joining club xxx to make sure I’m ready to go next year. Should a roster spot open this year, I’d love the opportunity to try out for it.’


Everyone who says this is a life lesson is being a dick. In the real world, people have empathy, which is something many of you lack. This is a kid who just lost a grandparent. It's not time for "teaching a life lesson."


I have empathy for her…but the tryouts are over and the roster is set.

Ahh, make an exception and let her on if she is talented?

This is a kid playing a game with a ball. We aren't talking about annexing a neighboring country.

What are you suggesting anyone do?
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Anonymous wrote:You should not reach out to AD or Principal. Your dd should play on a club team, and keep improving, and attend the tryouts next year. If you reach out, even IF coach takes her this year because he has to, unless she's a true prodigy, she won't make the team again. And yes, if the 2 injured players, who have played for the coach before will heal before the season (meaning not an ACL for example), it IS appropriate to hold those 2 spots


And she likely won’t play.

She needs to take this as a life lesson to be responsible for making sure all bases are covered. She could’ve even asked a friend to reach out on her behalf.

Her only response to the coach should be along the lines of ‘thank you for the response. I’m disappointed that I missed the tryouts, but understand your rule. I’m joining club xxx to make sure I’m ready to go next year. Should a roster spot open this year, I’d love the opportunity to try out for it.’




Everyone who says this is a life lesson is being a dick. In the real world, people have empathy, which is something many of you lack. This is a kid who just lost a grandparent. It's not time for "teaching a life lesson."


+ 1000.



Pretty sickening to see adults relishing in a child's sadness. Tells you everything you need to know about them.


I don’t think people are purposely not being empathetic. I think they’re saying that if the coach had no idea of a student with interest and held tryouts as published and set the team, what else can be done for this year?


Exactly.

I’m guessing the school was notified that the student was missing class to attend the funeral. Not that much harder to shoot an email to the coach about missing tryouts.

Complaining to the AD or principal at this point is ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:If the injured girls were on the team previously that was why their spots were held.


That's not how try outs work. Being on a team one season is not a promise to be on the team another season. You'd think someone on a sports forum would know that.


I'm sure someone on the sports forum would know that is how it works if they were starters.

Get off your high horse.


Nope, still isnt how it works. "Starters" have crap seasons all the time.


Bless your heart. Do you have kids who have actually played high school team sports? Of course that how it works. My kid was offered a sport on his high school basketball team in March of his eighth grade year. Sure he went to tryouts, but they were a formality. That’s how tryouts work.


Your kid's HS obviously has a sh*tty team if they are offering 13 year olds a spot.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry your daughter missed tryouts and I’m especially sorry for your loss. That would certainly be a valid reason in my book but it’s not surprising that in the world of HS athletics, they are inflexible. When one of my kids was in middle school he was registered for a non-school baseball tryout. He’d been really excited about playing but got a concussion a few weeks before. Since the tryout was months in advance of the season I asked if he could have a tryout a week later and was told that they didn’t make any exceptions. That meant waiting another year. He was disappointed but we accepted it. We later learned this was not in fact the policy for everyone. The world of sports is not always fair. My other son plays HS soccer and he has seen injured kids sit out tryouts but put on the roster because the coach had already seen enough the previous year or in preseason workouts.


Again, yeah it happens because most coaches are dicks, but thi is not how try outs are suppoesed to go. If Bobby ran a 4.4 40 in 2022 that doesn't mean he will run it in 2023. Ok, kids grow like weeds. They get fatter, slower, more awkward. The point of a try out is to collect data and make a fair decision. Lwtting a previous year player skip that is BS, espcially so if it is at the exclusion of others.

Call the AD. The coach is a public employee and he owes you a valid explanation. Demand it.


Except Bobby runs indoor track which just ended a month ago and ran a 4.2 40 but then pulled a hamstring and needs 6 weeks recovery. Most of these kids are competing more than just the HS season. I mean, my kid's baseball team has tons of people training in the off-season posting stuff on Twitter and the coach is following. Coach knows a kid is throwing 92...because he just threw 92 two weeks ago at a facility that officially clocked it...he isn't going to not take that kid because the kid sprained an ankle last week and now can't put any weight on it for the official tryout.


Actually Bobby spent most of the winter smoing pot and screwing that skank from West Potomac. So your hypothetical doesn't hold water.


Well, we all know Bobby is a troublemaker...quite a backstory we are concocting for poor Bobby.


Wait, Bobby can throw 92, gets high, and regularly gets action from the West Potomac girl? Why are we saying "poor Bobby"? Bobby is the man
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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?


Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.


And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.


Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.


But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work
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Anonymous wrote:You should not reach out to AD or Principal. Your dd should play on a club team, and keep improving, and attend the tryouts next year. If you reach out, even IF coach takes her this year because he has to, unless she's a true prodigy, she won't make the team again. And yes, if the 2 injured players, who have played for the coach before will heal before the season (meaning not an ACL for example), it IS appropriate to hold those 2 spots


And she likely won’t play.

She needs to take this as a life lesson to be responsible for making sure all bases are covered. She could’ve even asked a friend to reach out on her behalf.

Her only response to the coach should be along the lines of ‘thank you for the response. I’m disappointed that I missed the tryouts, but understand your rule. I’m joining club xxx to make sure I’m ready to go next year. Should a roster spot open this year, I’d love the opportunity to try out for it.’




Everyone who says this is a life lesson is being a dick. In the real world, people have empathy, which is something many of you lack. This is a kid who just lost a grandparent. It's not time for "teaching a life lesson."


+ 1000.



Pretty sickening to see adults relishing in a child's sadness. Tells you everything you need to know about them.


I don’t think people are purposely not being empathetic. I think they’re saying that if the coach had no idea of a student with interest and held tryouts as published and set the team, what else can be done for this year?


Have her come to practice, evaluate her level of play and she either makes the team or doesn’t
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Anonymous wrote:What's the legitimate reason?


Her grandfather died and she was at the Funeral in Ohio.


And was the coach notified before or after she missed tryouts? Was she registered to try out?

Some sports are cut sports and a student not showing up is an easy way to make a cut.


Anyone who is not an ahole piece of sh-- would cut the kid some slack and let her try out or make an accommodation. Even if they did not tell the coach, "contacting the HS lax coach" is not high on the list when a family member passes. This is not the NCAA, NFL. It's HS.

Contact the AD.


But logistically, what is the coach going to do after this extra try-out?

All the athletes have been notified that they've made the team already. Is the coach going to rescind an offer to one of those girls if OP's daughter does well at the tryout. How do you think that poor girls family would react to that scenario?

Coach is not being an a-hole. He held his tryout and he assembled his roster. This is just the way it work


The coach has 2 injured players so there is clearly room in the roster. Also there is no set number to be on the team.
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