Current Herndon HS parents

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Anonymous wrote:The AP participation rates at Herndon are lower for just about every ethnicity than at many other AP schools.

So if the point is that the kids who make it to AP courses at Herndon often do well, great point to make, but others may ask what’s happening in the pyramid that makes kids less likely to take those more challenging courses.

I asked my work colleague about her children's experiences at HHS. She said that they all liked it. One of her children did a French immersion program there. My work colleague identifies as Filipina (we talk openly about our ethnic backgrounds). She lived in both the town of Herndon and FFX portion of Herndon. She said some of her kids had to go to Chantilly and preferred HHS b/c of the counselor services at HHS. I asked her about the AP participation rates and she said a lot of kids had to work after school. Her daughter dropped out of an AP course b/c it was too much additional after school work and her daughter wanted to enjoy her social life instead.

Herndon ES replaced its French immersion program with Spanish immersion five years ago.

Can kids take Spanish immersion if they speak Spanish at home?

My coworker told me that her daughter did indeed take the french immersion program in elementary school and then dropped out in middle school either b/c they no longer offered it or because she started ROTC. She can't remember. She thinks in middle school French became an elective. She did mention that her daughter can still speak some French today b/c she will just start talking in French every now and then.

A lot of my friends that are native Spanish speakers told me that their kids took Spanish in FCPS school b/c they do not speak Spanish in their house only English. I asked if their kids can Speak fluently now and she said no, none of them.

The immersion program isn’t about language acquisition though many go in thinking that and are disappointed. I started another thread about immersion. What I didn’t mention in the other thread was that my child (now in HS) was far ahead of kids who didn’t have immersion. He struggled a bit understanding with what the various parts of speech were because FCPS doesn’t seriously cover that in English. His teachers have said his non-immersion classmates put together sentences more mechanically rather than a kid like who goes with what is more natural to say. He’s gotten a lot of positive feedback for someone who doesn’t speak Spanish at home. He comprehends very well inside and outside of the classroom, and has carried on conversations in Spanish beyond how are you? What’s your name?

And this is why so many people homeschool and/or enroll their children in enrichment camps.
Billions of dollars for our “excellent” school system but we have to pay time and attention to make sure our children learn grammar well.

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I’m a product of the FCPS of the 80s when it actually was an excellent school system. Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar and how to write correctly. My own kids haven’t been as fortunate, so my husband and I have had to teach them this at home. It’s truly disgraceful what FCPS has become.

RWNJs are still upset over last elections. Cry harder.

P.S. - Try to avoid the passive tense next time (for example, "Teachers emphasized grammar" rather than "Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar...").

“Public schools used to and should at present provide quality education” is something only “right-wing nut job” believe?

While I find this rather illuminating, (and a sad confession. You doth protest too much against an accusation that wasn’t even leveled) I can will have to find the bright side and continue to invest in endeavors that profit from the continuing decline of government schools.
Apparently the “left/democrats” have some motivation that is not the academic welfare of American children behind their involvement in public education. Who knew?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The AP participation rates at Herndon are lower for just about every ethnicity than at many other AP schools.

So if the point is that the kids who make it to AP courses at Herndon often do well, great point to make, but others may ask what’s happening in the pyramid that makes kids less likely to take those more challenging courses.

I asked my work colleague about her children's experiences at HHS. She said that they all liked it. One of her children did a French immersion program there. My work colleague identifies as Filipina (we talk openly about our ethnic backgrounds). She lived in both the town of Herndon and FFX portion of Herndon. She said some of her kids had to go to Chantilly and preferred HHS b/c of the counselor services at HHS. I asked her about the AP participation rates and she said a lot of kids had to work after school. Her daughter dropped out of an AP course b/c it was too much additional after school work and her daughter wanted to enjoy her social life instead.

Herndon ES replaced its French immersion program with Spanish immersion five years ago.

Can kids take Spanish immersion if they speak Spanish at home?

My coworker told me that her daughter did indeed take the french immersion program in elementary school and then dropped out in middle school either b/c they no longer offered it or because she started ROTC. She can't remember. She thinks in middle school French became an elective. She did mention that her daughter can still speak some French today b/c she will just start talking in French every now and then.

A lot of my friends that are native Spanish speakers told me that their kids took Spanish in FCPS school b/c they do not speak Spanish in their house only English. I asked if their kids can Speak fluently now and she said no, none of them.

The immersion program isn’t about language acquisition though many go in thinking that and are disappointed. I started another thread about immersion. What I didn’t mention in the other thread was that my child (now in HS) was far ahead of kids who didn’t have immersion. He struggled a bit understanding with what the various parts of speech were because FCPS doesn’t seriously cover that in English. His teachers have said his non-immersion classmates put together sentences more mechanically rather than a kid like who goes with what is more natural to say. He’s gotten a lot of positive feedback for someone who doesn’t speak Spanish at home. He comprehends very well inside and outside of the classroom, and has carried on conversations in Spanish beyond how are you? What’s your name?

And this is why so many people homeschool and/or enroll their children in enrichment camps.
Billions of dollars for our “excellent” school system but we have to pay time and attention to make sure our children learn grammar well.

+100
I’m a product of the FCPS of the 80s when it actually was an excellent school system. Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar and how to write correctly. My own kids haven’t been as fortunate, so my husband and I have had to teach them this at home. It’s truly disgraceful what FCPS has become.

RWNJs are still upset over last elections. Cry harder.

P.S. - Try to avoid the passive tense next time (for example, "Teachers emphasized grammar" rather than "Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar...").

“Public schools used to and should at present provide quality education” is something only “right-wing nut job” believe?

While I find this rather illuminating, (and a sad confession. You doth protest too much against an accusation that wasn’t even leveled) I can will have to find the bright side and continue to invest in endeavors that profit from the continuing decline of government schools.
Apparently the “left/democrats” have some motivation that is not the academic welfare of American children behind their involvement in public education. Who knew?

Do you prefer Ranch or the house dressing with that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The AP participation rates at Herndon are lower for just about every ethnicity than at many other AP schools.

So if the point is that the kids who make it to AP courses at Herndon often do well, great point to make, but others may ask what’s happening in the pyramid that makes kids less likely to take those more challenging courses.

I asked my work colleague about her children's experiences at HHS. She said that they all liked it. One of her children did a French immersion program there. My work colleague identifies as Filipina (we talk openly about our ethnic backgrounds). She lived in both the town of Herndon and FFX portion of Herndon. She said some of her kids had to go to Chantilly and preferred HHS b/c of the counselor services at HHS. I asked her about the AP participation rates and she said a lot of kids had to work after school. Her daughter dropped out of an AP course b/c it was too much additional after school work and her daughter wanted to enjoy her social life instead.

Herndon ES replaced its French immersion program with Spanish immersion five years ago.

Can kids take Spanish immersion if they speak Spanish at home?

My coworker told me that her daughter did indeed take the french immersion program in elementary school and then dropped out in middle school either b/c they no longer offered it or because she started ROTC. She can't remember. She thinks in middle school French became an elective. She did mention that her daughter can still speak some French today b/c she will just start talking in French every now and then.

A lot of my friends that are native Spanish speakers told me that their kids took Spanish in FCPS school b/c they do not speak Spanish in their house only English. I asked if their kids can Speak fluently now and she said no, none of them.

The immersion program isn’t about language acquisition though many go in thinking that and are disappointed. I started another thread about immersion. What I didn’t mention in the other thread was that my child (now in HS) was far ahead of kids who didn’t have immersion. He struggled a bit understanding with what the various parts of speech were because FCPS doesn’t seriously cover that in English. His teachers have said his non-immersion classmates put together sentences more mechanically rather than a kid like who goes with what is more natural to say. He’s gotten a lot of positive feedback for someone who doesn’t speak Spanish at home. He comprehends very well inside and outside of the classroom, and has carried on conversations in Spanish beyond how are you? What’s your name?

And this is why so many people homeschool and/or enroll their children in enrichment camps.
Billions of dollars for our “excellent” school system but we have to pay time and attention to make sure our children learn grammar well.

+100
I’m a product of the FCPS of the 80s when it actually was an excellent school system. Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar and how to write correctly. My own kids haven’t been as fortunate, so my husband and I have had to teach them this at home. It’s truly disgraceful what FCPS has become.

Were you in an Honors or GT or Gen Ed class? Just curious. I suspect the only reason I learned grammar at APS was b/c I had a GT English teacher that made us diagram sentences. I had to supplement grammar recently with my child here in FFX as well. Bought a bunch of grammar workbooks off Amazon.

I was just in regular classes. This is when ALL kids were taught to the highest standard. Our grammar book was called "Links" and even though I dreaded it, it proved to be invaluable in my later writing-intensive career. I still remember those lessons, even now decades later.

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Anonymous wrote:The AP participation rates at Herndon are lower for just about every ethnicity than at many other AP schools.

So if the point is that the kids who make it to AP courses at Herndon often do well, great point to make, but others may ask what’s happening in the pyramid that makes kids less likely to take those more challenging courses.

I asked my work colleague about her children's experiences at HHS. She said that they all liked it. One of her children did a French immersion program there. My work colleague identifies as Filipina (we talk openly about our ethnic backgrounds). She lived in both the town of Herndon and FFX portion of Herndon. She said some of her kids had to go to Chantilly and preferred HHS b/c of the counselor services at HHS. I asked her about the AP participation rates and she said a lot of kids had to work after school. Her daughter dropped out of an AP course b/c it was too much additional after school work and her daughter wanted to enjoy her social life instead.

Herndon ES replaced its French immersion program with Spanish immersion five years ago.

Can kids take Spanish immersion if they speak Spanish at home?

My coworker told me that her daughter did indeed take the french immersion program in elementary school and then dropped out in middle school either b/c they no longer offered it or because she started ROTC. She can't remember. She thinks in middle school French became an elective. She did mention that her daughter can still speak some French today b/c she will just start talking in French every now and then.

A lot of my friends that are native Spanish speakers told me that their kids took Spanish in FCPS school b/c they do not speak Spanish in their house only English. I asked if their kids can Speak fluently now and she said no, none of them.

The immersion program isn’t about language acquisition though many go in thinking that and are disappointed. I started another thread about immersion. What I didn’t mention in the other thread was that my child (now in HS) was far ahead of kids who didn’t have immersion. He struggled a bit understanding with what the various parts of speech were because FCPS doesn’t seriously cover that in English. His teachers have said his non-immersion classmates put together sentences more mechanically rather than a kid like who goes with what is more natural to say. He’s gotten a lot of positive feedback for someone who doesn’t speak Spanish at home. He comprehends very well inside and outside of the classroom, and has carried on conversations in Spanish beyond how are you? What’s your name?

And this is why so many people homeschool and/or enroll their children in enrichment camps.
Billions of dollars for our “excellent” school system but we have to pay time and attention to make sure our children learn grammar well.

+100
I’m a product of the FCPS of the 80s when it actually was an excellent school system. Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar and how to write correctly. My own kids haven’t been as fortunate, so my husband and I have had to teach them this at home. It’s truly disgraceful what FCPS has become.

RWNJs are still upset over last elections. Cry harder.

P.S. - Try to avoid the passive tense next time (for example, "Teachers emphasized grammar" rather than "Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar...").

Uh oh... someone doesn't know that "passive tense" doesn't exist. Perhaps you meant "passive voice"? Real grammar instruction would have cleared that up for you. I said exactly what I wanted to say, in exactly the way it should have been said. "Teachers emphasized grammar" is something a ten-year old might come up with.

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Anonymous wrote:The AP participation rates at Herndon are lower for just about every ethnicity than at many other AP schools.

So if the point is that the kids who make it to AP courses at Herndon often do well, great point to make, but others may ask what’s happening in the pyramid that makes kids less likely to take those more challenging courses.

I asked my work colleague about her children's experiences at HHS. She said that they all liked it. One of her children did a French immersion program there. My work colleague identifies as Filipina (we talk openly about our ethnic backgrounds). She lived in both the town of Herndon and FFX portion of Herndon. She said some of her kids had to go to Chantilly and preferred HHS b/c of the counselor services at HHS. I asked her about the AP participation rates and she said a lot of kids had to work after school. Her daughter dropped out of an AP course b/c it was too much additional after school work and her daughter wanted to enjoy her social life instead.

Herndon ES replaced its French immersion program with Spanish immersion five years ago.

Can kids take Spanish immersion if they speak Spanish at home?

My coworker told me that her daughter did indeed take the french immersion program in elementary school and then dropped out in middle school either b/c they no longer offered it or because she started ROTC. She can't remember. She thinks in middle school French became an elective. She did mention that her daughter can still speak some French today b/c she will just start talking in French every now and then.

A lot of my friends that are native Spanish speakers told me that their kids took Spanish in FCPS school b/c they do not speak Spanish in their house only English. I asked if their kids can Speak fluently now and she said no, none of them.

The immersion program isn’t about language acquisition though many go in thinking that and are disappointed. I started another thread about immersion. What I didn’t mention in the other thread was that my child (now in HS) was far ahead of kids who didn’t have immersion. He struggled a bit understanding with what the various parts of speech were because FCPS doesn’t seriously cover that in English. His teachers have said his non-immersion classmates put together sentences more mechanically rather than a kid like who goes with what is more natural to say. He’s gotten a lot of positive feedback for someone who doesn’t speak Spanish at home. He comprehends very well inside and outside of the classroom, and has carried on conversations in Spanish beyond how are you? What’s your name?

And this is why so many people homeschool and/or enroll their children in enrichment camps.
Billions of dollars for our “excellent” school system but we have to pay time and attention to make sure our children learn grammar well.

+100
I’m a product of the FCPS of the 80s when it actually was an excellent school system. Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar and how to write correctly. My own kids haven’t been as fortunate, so my husband and I have had to teach them this at home. It’s truly disgraceful what FCPS has become.

RWNJs are still upset over last elections. Cry harder.

P.S. - Try to avoid the passive tense next time (for example, "Teachers emphasized grammar" rather than "Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar...").

“Public schools used to and should at present provide quality education” is something only “right-wing nut job” believe?

While I find this rather illuminating, (and a sad confession. You doth protest too much against an accusation that wasn’t even leveled) I can will have to find the bright side and continue to invest in endeavors that profit from the continuing decline of government schools.
Apparently the “left/democrats” have some motivation that is not the academic welfare of American children behind their involvement in public education. Who knew?

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The PP just completely exposed herself as someone who couldn't care less about grammar instruction. Because politics.

[Anonymous]

I don't see Herndon parents complaining about the quality of grammar instruction at the school. No idea where you're trying to go with all this, other than perhaps to rehash the results of an election where all your candidates lost.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The AP participation rates at Herndon are lower for just about every ethnicity than at many other AP schools.

So if the point is that the kids who make it to AP courses at Herndon often do well, great point to make, but others may ask what’s happening in the pyramid that makes kids less likely to take those more challenging courses.

I asked my work colleague about her children's experiences at HHS. She said that they all liked it. One of her children did a French immersion program there. My work colleague identifies as Filipina (we talk openly about our ethnic backgrounds). She lived in both the town of Herndon and FFX portion of Herndon. She said some of her kids had to go to Chantilly and preferred HHS b/c of the counselor services at HHS. I asked her about the AP participation rates and she said a lot of kids had to work after school. Her daughter dropped out of an AP course b/c it was too much additional after school work and her daughter wanted to enjoy her social life instead.

Herndon ES replaced its French immersion program with Spanish immersion five years ago.

Can kids take Spanish immersion if they speak Spanish at home?

My coworker told me that her daughter did indeed take the french immersion program in elementary school and then dropped out in middle school either b/c they no longer offered it or because she started ROTC. She can't remember. She thinks in middle school French became an elective. She did mention that her daughter can still speak some French today b/c she will just start talking in French every now and then.

A lot of my friends that are native Spanish speakers told me that their kids took Spanish in FCPS school b/c they do not speak Spanish in their house only English. I asked if their kids can Speak fluently now and she said no, none of them.

The immersion program isn’t about language acquisition though many go in thinking that and are disappointed. I started another thread about immersion. What I didn’t mention in the other thread was that my child (now in HS) was far ahead of kids who didn’t have immersion. He struggled a bit understanding with what the various parts of speech were because FCPS doesn’t seriously cover that in English. His teachers have said his non-immersion classmates put together sentences more mechanically rather than a kid like who goes with what is more natural to say. He’s gotten a lot of positive feedback for someone who doesn’t speak Spanish at home. He comprehends very well inside and outside of the classroom, and has carried on conversations in Spanish beyond how are you? What’s your name?

And this is why so many people homeschool and/or enroll their children in enrichment camps.
Billions of dollars for our “excellent” school system but we have to pay time and attention to make sure our children learn grammar well.

+100
I’m a product of the FCPS of the 80s when it actually was an excellent school system. Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar and how to write correctly. My own kids haven’t been as fortunate, so my husband and I have had to teach them this at home. It’s truly disgraceful what FCPS has become.

RWNJs are still upset over last elections. Cry harder.

P.S. - Try to avoid the passive tense next time (for example, "Teachers emphasized grammar" rather than "Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar...").

“Public schools used to and should at present provide quality education” is something only “right-wing nut job” believe?

While I find this rather illuminating, (and a sad confession. You doth protest too much against an accusation that wasn’t even leveled) I can will have to find the bright side and continue to invest in endeavors that profit from the continuing decline of government schools.
Apparently the “left/democrats” have some motivation that is not the academic welfare of American children behind their involvement in public education. Who knew?

Do you prefer Ranch or the house dressing with that?

You wrote what you wrote, and we understand that you are gloating that the republicans lost the election, and with it their hopes of improving education for all the county’s children.

As it stands, “your side” is firmly in charge so you can laugh at the kids whose parents depend almost completely on FCPS to provide a good education.

[Anonymous]

What is it about GenEd kids that makes people so afraid to share a classroom with them? I definitely think kids should strive to meet their potential, be we can't all be great at everything. What are you really afraid of?

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about GenEd kids that makes people so afraid to share a classroom with them? I definitely think kids should strive to meet their potential, be we can't all be great at everything. What are you really afraid of?

I suspect it's exposure to ethnic groups and socio-economic groups the that have perceived behavioral problems or aren't "serious" students b/c they aren't in the AP classes.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about GenEd kids that makes people so afraid to share a classroom with them? I definitely think kids should strive to meet their potential, be we can't all be great at everything. What are you really afraid of?

The MS explanation for the difference between Gen Ed and Honors classes was that Honors students would read 4 books a year. They would do the reading on their own and participate in discussions and write papers of some length. Gen Ed classes would read 2-4 books but the reading would be done in class and the students would read along as the Teacher read out loud to them. The students would write paragraph responses to prompts.

My friends son is in HS and started in Gen Ed classes. He is not an academically minded kid and has struggled with some learning issues. He asked his parents to move into honors geometry and chemistry because the Gen Ed classes moved so slowly. He noticed kids goofing off, coming in late, leaving when they wanted to. The classes were loud and often disruptive. He moved from an easy A into hard C's because he thought the Gen Ed classes were such a waste of time. This was not Herndon High School

That is one students experience but I suspect that the data points to lower expectations, for a variety of reasons, to include kids who having learning issues and kids who don't care about school and are disruptive. My kid will be in all honors classes because I want him reading novels on his own, writing more then a paragraph, and in class with more kids that care about academics.

Maybe things improve in the Gen Ed classes once you move past the 10th grade so that the Gen Ed classes are more serious academic subjects that some folks need to move a bit more slowly, like Algebra II, but the expectations I heard for a 7th grader does not give me much desire to have my kid in a gen ed classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about GenEd kids that makes people so afraid to share a classroom with them? I definitely think kids should strive to meet their potential, be we can't all be great at everything. What are you really afraid of?

The MS explanation for the difference between Gen Ed and Honors classes was that Honors students would read 4 books a year. They would do the reading on their own and participate in discussions and write papers of some length. Gen Ed classes would read 2-4 books but the reading would be done in class and the students would read along as the Teacher read out loud to them. The students would write paragraph responses to prompts.

My friends son is in HS and started in Gen Ed classes. He is not an academically minded kid and has struggled with some learning issues. He asked his parents to move into honors geometry and chemistry because the Gen Ed classes moved so slowly. He noticed kids goofing off, coming in late, leaving when they wanted to. The classes were loud and often disruptive. He moved from an easy A into hard C's because he thought the Gen Ed classes were such a waste of time. This was not Herndon High School

That is one students experience but I suspect that the data points to lower expectations, for a variety of reasons, to include kids who having learning issues and kids who don't care about school and are disruptive. My kid will be in all honors classes because I want him reading novels on his own, writing more then a paragraph, and in class with more kids that care about academics.

Maybe things improve in the Gen Ed classes once you move past the 10th grade so that the Gen Ed classes are more serious academic subjects that some folks need to move a bit more slowly, like Algebra II, but the expectations I heard for a 7th grader does not give me much desire to have my kid in a gen ed classroom.

My kid is in AAP but has remarked that the expectations are low and behavioral issues are significant in ged ed. It’s really sad that it’s not about academics anymore but behavioral issues. Even being in AAP, I would have thought all honors on HS was a bad idea/too much but I’ve been told Gen Ed is a joke from other parents/even teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about GenEd kids that makes people so afraid to share a classroom with them? I definitely think kids should strive to meet their potential, be we can't all be great at everything. What are you really afraid of?

The MS explanation for the difference between Gen Ed and Honors classes was that Honors students would read 4 books a year. They would do the reading on their own and participate in discussions and write papers of some length. Gen Ed classes would read 2-4 books but the reading would be done in class and the students would read along as the Teacher read out loud to them. The students would write paragraph responses to prompts.

My friends son is in HS and started in Gen Ed classes. He is not an academically minded kid and has struggled with some learning issues. He asked his parents to move into honors geometry and chemistry because the Gen Ed classes moved so slowly. He noticed kids goofing off, coming in late, leaving when they wanted to. The classes were loud and often disruptive. He moved from an easy A into hard C's because he thought the Gen Ed classes were such a waste of time. This was not Herndon High School

That is one students experience but I suspect that the data points to lower expectations, for a variety of reasons, to include kids who having learning issues and kids who don't care about school and are disruptive. My kid will be in all honors classes because I want him reading novels on his own, writing more then a paragraph, and in class with more kids that care about academics.

Maybe things improve in the Gen Ed classes once you move past the 10th grade so that the Gen Ed classes are more serious academic subjects that some folks need to move a bit more slowly, like Algebra II, but the expectations I heard for a 7th grader does not give me much desire to have my kid in a gen ed classroom.

My kid is in AAP but has remarked that the expectations are low and behavioral issues are significant in ged ed. It’s really sad that it’s not about academics anymore but behavioral issues. Even being in AAP, I would have thought all honors on HS was a bad idea/too much but I’ve been told Gen Ed is a joke from other parents/even teachers.

So you have hearsay from a secondary source and from a child who is not in GenEd. You don't even have a child in HS, you haven't experienced the curriculum. And you are writing off the students, as a whole, as badly behaved, and a joke. Anyway you spin it, we get to the same place. Classism. Just own it.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about GenEd kids that makes people so afraid to share a classroom with them? I definitely think kids should strive to meet their potential, be we can't all be great at everything. What are you really afraid of?

Looks like a new phenomenon, or at least the strength of the sentiment is new.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about GenEd kids that makes people so afraid to share a classroom with them? I definitely think kids should strive to meet their potential, be we can't all be great at everything. What are you really afraid of?

The MS explanation for the difference between Gen Ed and Honors classes was that Honors students would read 4 books a year. They would do the reading on their own and participate in discussions and write papers of some length. Gen Ed classes would read 2-4 books but the reading would be done in class and the students would read along as the Teacher read out loud to them. The students would write paragraph responses to prompts.

My friends son is in HS and started in Gen Ed classes. He is not an academically minded kid and has struggled with some learning issues. He asked his parents to move into honors geometry and chemistry because the Gen Ed classes moved so slowly. He noticed kids goofing off, coming in late, leaving when they wanted to. The classes were loud and often disruptive. He moved from an easy A into hard C's because he thought the Gen Ed classes were such a waste of time. This was not Herndon High School

That is one students experience but I suspect that the data points to lower expectations, for a variety of reasons, to include kids who having learning issues and kids who don't care about school and are disruptive. My kid will be in all honors classes because I want him reading novels on his own, writing more then a paragraph, and in class with more kids that care about academics.

Maybe things improve in the Gen Ed classes once you move past the 10th grade so that the Gen Ed classes are more serious academic subjects that some folks need to move a bit more slowly, like Algebra II, but the expectations I heard for a 7th grader does not give me much desire to have my kid in a gen ed classroom.

My brother’s experience in middle school as well. The class moved too slowly for him and the kids acted up more (nothing like some of what we hear about these days). I guess the counselor assumed things about him that weren’t true but anyway, he transferred out and no more problems of that kind.

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Anonymous wrote:The AP participation rates at Herndon are lower for just about every ethnicity than at many other AP schools.

So if the point is that the kids who make it to AP courses at Herndon often do well, great point to make, but others may ask what’s happening in the pyramid that makes kids less likely to take those more challenging courses.

I asked my work colleague about her children's experiences at HHS. She said that they all liked it. One of her children did a French immersion program there. My work colleague identifies as Filipina (we talk openly about our ethnic backgrounds). She lived in both the town of Herndon and FFX portion of Herndon. She said some of her kids had to go to Chantilly and preferred HHS b/c of the counselor services at HHS. I asked her about the AP participation rates and she said a lot of kids had to work after school. Her daughter dropped out of an AP course b/c it was too much additional after school work and her daughter wanted to enjoy her social life instead.

Herndon ES replaced its French immersion program with Spanish immersion five years ago.

Can kids take Spanish immersion if they speak Spanish at home?

My coworker told me that her daughter did indeed take the french immersion program in elementary school and then dropped out in middle school either b/c they no longer offered it or because she started ROTC. She can't remember. She thinks in middle school French became an elective. She did mention that her daughter can still speak some French today b/c she will just start talking in French every now and then.

A lot of my friends that are native Spanish speakers told me that their kids took Spanish in FCPS school b/c they do not speak Spanish in their house only English. I asked if their kids can Speak fluently now and she said no, none of them.

The immersion program isn’t about language acquisition though many go in thinking that and are disappointed. I started another thread about immersion. What I didn’t mention in the other thread was that my child (now in HS) was far ahead of kids who didn’t have immersion. He struggled a bit understanding with what the various parts of speech were because FCPS doesn’t seriously cover that in English. His teachers have said his non-immersion classmates put together sentences more mechanically rather than a kid like who goes with what is more natural to say. He’s gotten a lot of positive feedback for someone who doesn’t speak Spanish at home. He comprehends very well inside and outside of the classroom, and has carried on conversations in Spanish beyond how are you? What’s your name?

And this is why so many people homeschool and/or enroll their children in enrichment camps.
Billions of dollars for our “excellent” school system but we have to pay time and attention to make sure our children learn grammar well.

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I’m a product of the FCPS of the 80s when it actually was an excellent school system. Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar and how to write correctly. My own kids haven’t been as fortunate, so my husband and I have had to teach them this at home. It’s truly disgraceful what FCPS has become.

RWNJs are still upset over last elections. Cry harder.

P.S. - Try to avoid the passive tense next time (for example, "Teachers emphasized grammar" rather than "Great emphasis was placed on learning grammar...").

“Public schools used to and should at present provide quality education” is something only “right-wing nut job” believe?

While I find this rather illuminating, (and a sad confession. You doth protest too much against an accusation that wasn’t even leveled) I can will have to find the bright side and continue to invest in endeavors that profit from the continuing decline of government schools.
Apparently the “left/democrats” have some motivation that is not the academic welfare of American children behind their involvement in public education. Who knew?

Do you prefer Ranch or the house dressing with that?

You wrote what you wrote, and we understand that you are gloating that the republicans lost the election, and with it their hopes of improving education for all the county’s children.

As it stands, “your side” is firmly in charge so you can laugh at the kids whose parents depend almost completely on FCPS to provide a good education.

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Well said. It's almost as if the PP *wants* FCPS to be going down the tubes...