I hate “guy trips”

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of you guys are missing that he’s also getting behind at work from these trips. My husband works a ton and works most weekends. Even 4 days visiting family he has to work or he’s stressed out and annoying for a week or more after. If he was gone drinking for 4 days and came back complaining about all the work he was behind on I would find that very annoying. I 100 percent believe that he’s unhelpful and difficult to be around for quite a few days after.

I think he’s entitled to see his friends but he’s not entitled to minimize how it affects you. I don’t have concrete suggestions about what to do (although I personally would just rather have my house in a hotel for an extra day rather than listening to any complaining - I actually encourage my husband to do similar things when he’s traveling for work) but I understand, OP. I feel these situations really emphasize to me how tightly stretched we are all the time and I wish my husband would agree and be open to making changes. But when you handle all the fall out (which I would rather do than make my kids handle it because when my husband is stressed he yells more than I’m ok with) and they refuse to change it’s very hard.


OP - I feel heard and seen with this post. This is exactly the problem with my DH. He too works 60-80 hours a week, including the weekends. When he takes time away its always a HUGE problem. He took a few calls while we was gone on his trip but obviously did not work his normal hours while gone.



Do you have a job, OP? Or are you just a homemaker/kept woman? If the latter, you don't get to have this attitude. He works hard to provide for you and the children and deserves to blow off some steam.


OP - as I have said in a previous post I work full time. My job provides our families health insurance and a healthy pension. I make less than DH but my income is a big contribution to our family.


*Our family's health insurance*
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Anonymous wrote:DH goes on one, sometimes two, guy trips a year. Usually just a long weekend. I hate them. They all go and act like they are 21 again and drink way to much, stay up too late and come home feeling hungover and exhausted for the next week.

Meanwhile I am stuck 24/7 taking care of the kids and running the house while he is gone. Then when he gets home he can barely help because he is so tired and he is so behind on work from taking the long weekend off.

I completely know he deserves time to decompress and relax and reconnecting with his friends is very important. I am so glad he still has friends and is close with them! I just dislike these trips.


Husband goes away for one weekend year and his wife is all bent out of shape. Attention! Any men dumb enough to consider getting married, this is how backward women's thinking process is!

When I was married my wife would complain endlessly that I went on two on my son's Cub Scout camping trips each year. She seemed to think one night away, sleeping on the ground in a campsite with 30 noisy kids, was somehow a vacation for me.


Your ex wife sounds horrific. Sorry you had to be with her, and I hope you are happier now. was she at least hot?
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I think she has every right to be upset. Its how he acts is the issue.
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Anonymous wrote:Op - what frustrates me is that I am 100% the default parent. I typically do all the drop offs, pick ups, make food, do laundry etc.

But I expect him to help around the house with the kids. Instead he is sleeping until 7:30 (on a week day!) and now will rush to get ready to work and be all stressed because he has so much work to do.

I have been up since 6:30 getting myself ready, lunches, dealing with the dog, getting breakfast and all the kid stuff so they are on time for school.


If you're 100% the default parent, then are you doing anything extra on these mornings? If you are I think you should talk to him about that, but if your day looks no different I don't think it's reasonable to be upset about what he's doing/how stressed he is, because it's not actually affecting you materially.

My wife sleeping to 7:30 while I feed the cat, make lunches, and do school drop off is every morning of my life and it has never occurred to me to be angry at her for sleeping rather than getting up and going to work; I do the same amount of work regardless. I'm fine with the arrangement of responsibilities, which is what matters, not what she's doing with time that I'm doing kid stuff.


Do you know what “default parent” means?


DP it’s a phrase invented by disgruntled women who overestimate their role in their children’s life and are dismissive of the role their partners play, usually a circumstance that is self-inflicted by excessive hectoring, criticism, and micromanagement.


Tell me you’re a lazy parent without telling me you’re a lazy parent.


More original thinking from the “default parent” cliche user. Prattling on about laziness, ironically enough.


from the OP it seems the DH works 60-80 hours per week including nights and weekends. I would also assume his busy schedule does not allow for him to cover sick days or school closures but OP can correct me if wrong. There are 168 hours in a week. 80 means he is working 50% of the available hours of the week. 6 hours of sleep means 42 hours. An hour to get ready and commute in the morning plus min 30 commute home= 7.5 hours minimum, if he is not commuting into work on weekends. So just with working, sleeping minimum suggested amount, and commuting he takes 130 hours per week leaving 38 hours spread over 7 days is 5.5 hours to eat, workout, spend time with your family/spouse, run errands, cook dinners, etc.

On working hours alone, OP has 40 more hours per week to dedicate to her family and home. So yes she is the default parent, default cleaner, default sports driver, default grocery shopper, default sick day coverer.

as far as salary goes, OP DH better be making 2x the amount of money minimum.
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Anonymous wrote:Op - what frustrates me is that I am 100% the default parent. I typically do all the drop offs, pick ups, make food, do laundry etc.

But I expect him to help around the house with the kids. Instead he is sleeping until 7:30 (on a week day!) and now will rush to get ready to work and be all stressed because he has so much work to do.

I have been up since 6:30 getting myself ready, lunches, dealing with the dog, getting breakfast and all the kid stuff so they are on time for school.


If you're 100% the default parent, then are you doing anything extra on these mornings? If you are I think you should talk to him about that, but if your day looks no different I don't think it's reasonable to be upset about what he's doing/how stressed he is, because it's not actually affecting you materially.

My wife sleeping to 7:30 while I feed the cat, make lunches, and do school drop off is every morning of my life and it has never occurred to me to be angry at her for sleeping rather than getting up and going to work; I do the same amount of work regardless. I'm fine with the arrangement of responsibilities, which is what matters, not what she's doing with time that I'm doing kid stuff.


Do you know what “default parent” means?


DP it’s a phrase invented by disgruntled women who overestimate their role in their children’s life and are dismissive of the role their partners play, usually a circumstance that is self-inflicted by excessive hectoring, criticism, and micromanagement.


Tell me you’re a lazy parent without telling me you’re a lazy parent.


More original thinking from the “default parent” cliche user. Prattling on about laziness, ironically enough.


from the OP it seems the DH works 60-80 hours per week including nights and weekends. I would also assume his busy schedule does not allow for him to cover sick days or school closures but OP can correct me if wrong. There are 168 hours in a week. 80 means he is working 50% of the available hours of the week. 6 hours of sleep means 42 hours. An hour to get ready and commute in the morning plus min 30 commute home= 7.5 hours minimum, if he is not commuting into work on weekends. So just with working, sleeping minimum suggested amount, and commuting he takes 130 hours per week leaving 38 hours spread over 7 days is 5.5 hours to eat, workout, spend time with your family/spouse, run errands, cook dinners, etc.

On working hours alone, OP has 40 more hours per week to dedicate to her family and home. So yes she is the default parent, default cleaner, default sports driver, default grocery shopper, default sick day coverer.

as far as salary goes, OP DH better be making 2x the amount of money minimum.


Op - yes you pretty much have it spot on.

And yes he makes about 3.5-4 times what I make.
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No more guys’ trips, op. If he isn’t nice and happy to come home to a wife (you’d think he’d want sexy time with you), then these trips aren’t good for him or the family. You may need to say this directly to him.
Is it fair? No. Tell him you’d rather spend the time together or as a couple with friends. Depending on how you are as a person and a mom, it can be tough to find female friends you want to hang out with. I was invited to a church conference, but I can’t do church all weekend, no matter how much I like someone. I don’t want to have a rowdy girls’ weekend, I have a husband I like, when I drink I want sex, there’s no value from a purely self-centered perspective to drink without my husband. Our kids keep us busy and they do cool activities to the point I really don’t get the mom griping about shuttling kids around.
Stop worrying about what your husband wants when what he wants doesn’t do him any good as a man, father and husband.
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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of you guys are missing that he’s also getting behind at work from these trips. My husband works a ton and works most weekends. Even 4 days visiting family he has to work or he’s stressed out and annoying for a week or more after. If he was gone drinking for 4 days and came back complaining about all the work he was behind on I would find that very annoying. I 100 percent believe that he’s unhelpful and difficult to be around for quite a few days after.

I think he’s entitled to see his friends but he’s not entitled to minimize how it affects you. I don’t have concrete suggestions about what to do (although I personally would just rather have my house in a hotel for an extra day rather than listening to any complaining - I actually encourage my husband to do similar things when he’s traveling for work) but I understand, OP. I feel these situations really emphasize to me how tightly stretched we are all the time and I wish my husband would agree and be open to making changes. But when you handle all the fall out (which I would rather do than make my kids handle it because when my husband is stressed he yells more than I’m ok with) and they refuse to change it’s very hard.


OP - I feel heard and seen with this post. This is exactly the problem with my DH. He too works 60-80 hours a week, including the weekends. When he takes time away its always a HUGE problem. He took a few calls while we was gone on his trip but obviously did not work his normal hours while gone.


If it makes you feel better OP, my husband works that much and needs rest just as much as anyone else in that position, and he would never do what your husband is doing. He wouldn’t get that intoxicated, he wouldn’t get so behind at work, and if I needed help he would help, even if he felt awful. Your feelings are totally valid.

I have noticed that in disagreements with my husband, the worst thing I can do is complain and compare our situations, even if it’s obviously unfair. That just makes him think about everything in his life that isn’t good and puts him on the defensive. I just calmly tell him what I need him to do without trying to convince him that it’s reasonable or criticizing his actions. This works much better if I’m asking him to do something rather than asking him to not do something. He can figure out on his own what he needs to stop doing in order to be able to do the things I want him to do. I bet your husband loves you very much and wants you to be happy, and will be willing to do more for you than you think if you approach it the right way.
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Man here. I do these 1-2x a year. Yes, we drink plenty, probably because the people we see were from our 20s when we drank a lot with them. But it's not all drinking, and the random spontaneous conversations while in the car to the golf course or whatever are well worth it.

Now that we're all middle-aged, our recovery time takes a lot longer, and we're just coming to realize that. On my next trip, which is to Europe, I'll leave our destination on a Sunday afternoon (no way I'm waking up early after a big Saturday nigth final dinner), then fly to Frankfurt and stay at the airport hotel there, and catch the flight back to DC the next morning. That gives me Sunday evening to recover and catch up. Last time I did this, I had a 8am flight so I didn't even sleep that night -- just caught up on work the entire night, then slept on the flight back.

It's twice a year. It's beneficial to him and he enjoys it.
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Anonymous wrote:Op - what frustrates me is that I am 100% the default parent. I typically do all the drop offs, pick ups, make food, do laundry etc.

But I expect him to help around the house with the kids. Instead he is sleeping until 7:30 (on a week day!) and now will rush to get ready to work and be all stressed because he has so much work to do.

I have been up since 6:30 getting myself ready, lunches, dealing with the dog, getting breakfast and all the kid stuff so they are on time for school.


If you're 100% the default parent, then are you doing anything extra on these mornings? If you are I think you should talk to him about that, but if your day looks no different I don't think it's reasonable to be upset about what he's doing/how stressed he is, because it's not actually affecting you materially.

My wife sleeping to 7:30 while I feed the cat, make lunches, and do school drop off is every morning of my life and it has never occurred to me to be angry at her for sleeping rather than getting up and going to work; I do the same amount of work regardless. I'm fine with the arrangement of responsibilities, which is what matters, not what she's doing with time that I'm doing kid stuff.


Do you know what “default parent” means?


DP it’s a phrase invented by disgruntled women who overestimate their role in their children’s life and are dismissive of the role their partners play, usually a circumstance that is self-inflicted by excessive hectoring, criticism, and micromanagement.


Tell me you’re a lazy parent without telling me you’re a lazy parent.


More original thinking from the “default parent” cliche user. Prattling on about laziness, ironically enough.


from the OP it seems the DH works 60-80 hours per week including nights and weekends. I would also assume his busy schedule does not allow for him to cover sick days or school closures but OP can correct me if wrong. There are 168 hours in a week. 80 means he is working 50% of the available hours of the week. 6 hours of sleep means 42 hours. An hour to get ready and commute in the morning plus min 30 commute home= 7.5 hours minimum, if he is not commuting into work on weekends. So just with working, sleeping minimum suggested amount, and commuting he takes 130 hours per week leaving 38 hours spread over 7 days is 5.5 hours to eat, workout, spend time with your family/spouse, run errands, cook dinners, etc.

On working hours alone, OP has 40 more hours per week to dedicate to her family and home. So yes she is the default parent, default cleaner, default sports driver, default grocery shopper, default sick day coverer.

as far as salary goes, OP DH better be making 2x the amount of money minimum.


Op - yes you pretty much have it spot on.

And yes he makes about 3.5-4 times what I make.


ergo after these trips, the 5 hours per day after a trip that he "normally" (and honestly with this type of guy i assume he also works out or has regular golf saturdays or needs his "relax" time after his stressful job so lets be real about how much time he consistently spends on you, your kids, or your household but i could be wrong) dedicate to you and family life goes to work. which means you get the original trip time amount of days with no help plus however long it takes him to catch up on work and then since you do so great at holding down the fort, he assumes everything is good and he continues having all of his free time be for him and his needs. then things come to a head and he promises to help out more and thats about a month or two before his next guys trip where it all falls apart.
rinse repeat.

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Anonymous wrote:Man here. I do these 1-2x a year. Yes, we drink plenty, probably because the people we see were from our 20s when we drank a lot with them. But it's not all drinking, and the random spontaneous conversations while in the car to the golf course or whatever are well worth it.

Now that we're all middle-aged, our recovery time takes a lot longer, and we're just coming to realize that. On my next trip, which is to Europe, I'll leave our destination on a Sunday afternoon (no way I'm waking up early after a big Saturday nigth final dinner), then fly to Frankfurt and stay at the airport hotel there, and catch the flight back to DC the next morning. That gives me Sunday evening to recover and catch up. Last time I did this, I had a 8am flight so I didn't even sleep that night -- just caught up on work the entire night, then slept on the flight back.

It's twice a year. It's beneficial to him and he enjoys it.


Can't you just drink less? I really don't understand this insistence on drinking like you're still in your twenties. I have lots of fun spending time time with my friends even without getting hammered.

But I will say that using your trip back to recover is totally reasonable, unlike what OP's husband is doing.
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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of you guys are missing that he’s also getting behind at work from these trips. My husband works a ton and works most weekends. Even 4 days visiting family he has to work or he’s stressed out and annoying for a week or more after. If he was gone drinking for 4 days and came back complaining about all the work he was behind on I would find that very annoying. I 100 percent believe that he’s unhelpful and difficult to be around for quite a few days after.

I think he’s entitled to see his friends but he’s not entitled to minimize how it affects you. I don’t have concrete suggestions about what to do (although I personally would just rather have my house in a hotel for an extra day rather than listening to any complaining - I actually encourage my husband to do similar things when he’s traveling for work) but I understand, OP. I feel these situations really emphasize to me how tightly stretched we are all the time and I wish my husband would agree and be open to making changes. But when you handle all the fall out (which I would rather do than make my kids handle it because when my husband is stressed he yells more than I’m ok with) and they refuse to change it’s very hard.


OP - I feel heard and seen with this post. This is exactly the problem with my DH. He too works 60-80 hours a week, including the weekends. When he takes time away its always a HUGE problem. He took a few calls while we was gone on his trip but obviously did not work his normal hours while gone.



Do you have a job, OP? Or are you just a homemaker/kept woman? If the latter, you don't get to have this attitude. He works hard to provide for you and the children and deserves to blow off some steam.


OP - as I have said in a previous post I work full time. My job provides our families health insurance and a healthy pension. I make less than DH but my income is a big contribution to our family.


I'm sorry, but if you're working 40 hours a week, it is a HUGE difference to work 60-80 as you said your husband works. That's how you make the big money that, I'm sure, you enjoy the benefits of. So of course you're the default parent. Why is he even supposed to wake up with you and make sure the kids get breakfast, etc.? So your family gets health insurance and a "healthy pension" with your job, but I would strongly suspect that you have a very nice quality of life supported by his very long hours at the office.

Having said that, a week of fallout is too much. He needs to suck up the hangover for a day and then act like nothing is the matter. His need to catch up on work though isn't really something you can hold against him because the only way to prevent that is to never take time away.

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Anonymous wrote:Man here. I do these 1-2x a year. Yes, we drink plenty, probably because the people we see were from our 20s when we drank a lot with them. But it's not all drinking, and the random spontaneous conversations while in the car to the golf course or whatever are well worth it.

Now that we're all middle-aged, our recovery time takes a lot longer, and we're just coming to realize that. On my next trip, which is to Europe, I'll leave our destination on a Sunday afternoon (no way I'm waking up early after a big Saturday nigth final dinner), then fly to Frankfurt and stay at the airport hotel there, and catch the flight back to DC the next morning. That gives me Sunday evening to recover and catch up. Last time I did this, I had a 8am flight so I didn't even sleep that night -- just caught up on work the entire night, then slept on the flight back.

It's twice a year. It's beneficial to him and he enjoys it.


Can't you just drink less? I really don't understand this insistence on drinking like you're still in your twenties. I have lots of fun spending time time with my friends even without getting hammered.

But I will say that using your trip back to recover is totally reasonable, unlike what OP's husband is doing.


The first thing alcohol impairs is.. your judgment. Like the judgment that you should have another drink (also about eating a batch of White Castle sliders at 3am...). But it's also hard to say no to your friend buying around or having shots.
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Anonymous wrote:Op - what frustrates me is that I am 100% the default parent. I typically do all the drop offs, pick ups, make food, do laundry etc.

But I expect him to help around the house with the kids. Instead he is sleeping until 7:30 (on a week day!) and now will rush to get ready to work and be all stressed because he has so much work to do.

I have been up since 6:30 getting myself ready, lunches, dealing with the dog, getting breakfast and all the kid stuff so they are on time for school.


If you're 100% the default parent, then are you doing anything extra on these mornings? If you are I think you should talk to him about that, but if your day looks no different I don't think it's reasonable to be upset about what he's doing/how stressed he is, because it's not actually affecting you materially.

My wife sleeping to 7:30 while I feed the cat, make lunches, and do school drop off is every morning of my life and it has never occurred to me to be angry at her for sleeping rather than getting up and going to work; I do the same amount of work regardless. I'm fine with the arrangement of responsibilities, which is what matters, not what she's doing with time that I'm doing kid stuff.


Do you know what “default parent” means?


DP it’s a phrase invented by disgruntled women who overestimate their role in their children’s life and are dismissive of the role their partners play, usually a circumstance that is self-inflicted by excessive hectoring, criticism, and micromanagement.


Tell me you’re a lazy parent without telling me you’re a lazy parent.


More original thinking from the “default parent” cliche user. Prattling on about laziness, ironically enough.


from the OP it seems the DH works 60-80 hours per week including nights and weekends. I would also assume his busy schedule does not allow for him to cover sick days or school closures but OP can correct me if wrong. There are 168 hours in a week. 80 means he is working 50% of the available hours of the week. 6 hours of sleep means 42 hours. An hour to get ready and commute in the morning plus min 30 commute home= 7.5 hours minimum, if he is not commuting into work on weekends. So just with working, sleeping minimum suggested amount, and commuting he takes 130 hours per week leaving 38 hours spread over 7 days is 5.5 hours to eat, workout, spend time with your family/spouse, run errands, cook dinners, etc.

On working hours alone, OP has 40 more hours per week to dedicate to her family and home. So yes she is the default parent, default cleaner, default sports driver, default grocery shopper, default sick day coverer.

as far as salary goes, OP DH better be making 2x the amount of money minimum.


Op - yes you pretty much have it spot on.

And yes he makes about 3.5-4 times what I make.


So the guy works 50-10% more than you and makes 350-400% more than you, and two weeks of inconvenience per year is causing you to build up resentment and might result in a serious talk about his behavior? How selfish. That sounds really spoiled.
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Anonymous wrote:Op - what frustrates me is that I am 100% the default parent. I typically do all the drop offs, pick ups, make food, do laundry etc.

But I expect him to help around the house with the kids. Instead he is sleeping until 7:30 (on a week day!) and now will rush to get ready to work and be all stressed because he has so much work to do.

I have been up since 6:30 getting myself ready, lunches, dealing with the dog, getting breakfast and all the kid stuff so they are on time for school.


If you're 100% the default parent, then are you doing anything extra on these mornings? If you are I think you should talk to him about that, but if your day looks no different I don't think it's reasonable to be upset about what he's doing/how stressed he is, because it's not actually affecting you materially.

My wife sleeping to 7:30 while I feed the cat, make lunches, and do school drop off is every morning of my life and it has never occurred to me to be angry at her for sleeping rather than getting up and going to work; I do the same amount of work regardless. I'm fine with the arrangement of responsibilities, which is what matters, not what she's doing with time that I'm doing kid stuff.


Do you know what “default parent” means?


DP it’s a phrase invented by disgruntled women who overestimate their role in their children’s life and are dismissive of the role their partners play, usually a circumstance that is self-inflicted by excessive hectoring, criticism, and micromanagement.


Tell me you’re a lazy parent without telling me you’re a lazy parent.


More original thinking from the “default parent” cliche user. Prattling on about laziness, ironically enough.


from the OP it seems the DH works 60-80 hours per week including nights and weekends. I would also assume his busy schedule does not allow for him to cover sick days or school closures but OP can correct me if wrong. There are 168 hours in a week. 80 means he is working 50% of the available hours of the week. 6 hours of sleep means 42 hours. An hour to get ready and commute in the morning plus min 30 commute home= 7.5 hours minimum, if he is not commuting into work on weekends. So just with working, sleeping minimum suggested amount, and commuting he takes 130 hours per week leaving 38 hours spread over 7 days is 5.5 hours to eat, workout, spend time with your family/spouse, run errands, cook dinners, etc.

On working hours alone, OP has 40 more hours per week to dedicate to her family and home. So yes she is the default parent, default cleaner, default sports driver, default grocery shopper, default sick day coverer.

as far as salary goes, OP DH better be making 2x the amount of money minimum.


Op - yes you pretty much have it spot on.

And yes he makes about 3.5-4 times what I make.


So the guy works 50-10% more than you and makes 350-400% more than you, and two weeks of inconvenience per year is causing you to build up resentment and might result in a serious talk about his behavior? How selfish. That sounds really spoiled.


As someone with a spouse who works a lot, I really hate this attitude. Just because my husband makes a ton of money doesn't mean he gets to have more rest than I do.
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Anonymous wrote:Op - what frustrates me is that I am 100% the default parent. I typically do all the drop offs, pick ups, make food, do laundry etc.

But I expect him to help around the house with the kids. Instead he is sleeping until 7:30 (on a week day!) and now will rush to get ready to work and be all stressed because he has so much work to do.

I have been up since 6:30 getting myself ready, lunches, dealing with the dog, getting breakfast and all the kid stuff so they are on time for school.


If you're 100% the default parent, then are you doing anything extra on these mornings? If you are I think you should talk to him about that, but if your day looks no different I don't think it's reasonable to be upset about what he's doing/how stressed he is, because it's not actually affecting you materially.

My wife sleeping to 7:30 while I feed the cat, make lunches, and do school drop off is every morning of my life and it has never occurred to me to be angry at her for sleeping rather than getting up and going to work; I do the same amount of work regardless. I'm fine with the arrangement of responsibilities, which is what matters, not what she's doing with time that I'm doing kid stuff.


Do you know what “default parent” means?


DP it’s a phrase invented by disgruntled women who overestimate their role in their children’s life and are dismissive of the role their partners play, usually a circumstance that is self-inflicted by excessive hectoring, criticism, and micromanagement.


Tell me you’re a lazy parent without telling me you’re a lazy parent.


More original thinking from the “default parent” cliche user. Prattling on about laziness, ironically enough.


from the OP it seems the DH works 60-80 hours per week including nights and weekends. I would also assume his busy schedule does not allow for him to cover sick days or school closures but OP can correct me if wrong. There are 168 hours in a week. 80 means he is working 50% of the available hours of the week. 6 hours of sleep means 42 hours. An hour to get ready and commute in the morning plus min 30 commute home= 7.5 hours minimum, if he is not commuting into work on weekends. So just with working, sleeping minimum suggested amount, and commuting he takes 130 hours per week leaving 38 hours spread over 7 days is 5.5 hours to eat, workout, spend time with your family/spouse, run errands, cook dinners, etc.

On working hours alone, OP has 40 more hours per week to dedicate to her family and home. So yes she is the default parent, default cleaner, default sports driver, default grocery shopper, default sick day coverer.

as far as salary goes, OP DH better be making 2x the amount of money minimum.


Op - yes you pretty much have it spot on.

And yes he makes about 3.5-4 times what I make.


So the guy works 50-10% more than you and makes 350-400% more than you, and two weeks of inconvenience per year is causing you to build up resentment and might result in a serious talk about his behavior? How selfish. That sounds really spoiled.


As someone with a spouse who works a lot, I really hate this attitude. Just because my husband makes a ton of money doesn't mean he gets to have more rest than I do.


But OP's husband works a lot more than she does, and most likely at a more stressful job (stress tends to come with higher hours and pay, though not always).
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