Name your magical Democratic who would beat Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:Gretchen Whitmer

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MI or a political junkie knows who she is

1. You’ve changed your criteria since your OP.
2. Says you, since democrats are pinning all their hopes on abortion and turning out women, maybe have a little more respect?
3. Nikki Haley had an even lower profile

OP here.
1. I’ll give you that. She has show no interest in running. But let’s say she wants to run, sadly #2 still holds. People always find some excuse why to not vote for a woman.

I disagree with you about #2. Look how close Clinton came and frankly Whitmer is a significantly better candidate. Add to that she likely carries Michigan which Biden willingly gave up in order to support Netanyahu, and again, she’s my candidate of preference (once again playing by your original rules not your “the only allowed answer is Biden” rules)

I’m OP. I absolutely LOVE Whitmer. I want her to be President. I’m thrilled no one mentioned Gavin Newsom because we all know yhink he deserves the Presidency. But this is not the time.

No, I’m not saying, “only correct answer is Biden.” I’m really truly trying to get people to accept the reality that AT THIS MOMENT Joe Biden is best positioned to beat Trump.

I wish this weren’t the case.
I wish after Trump tried to overturn our election and incited an insurrection Senate Republicans would have voted to convict him. But they didn’t.
I wish after all but a handful of Maga Trump candidates lost in 22, the GOP would’ve seen that staying close to him they would continue to lose seats. But they didn’t.
I wish after Roe was overturned, MAGA realized that abortion bans were a losing issue, but they didn’t.

Yes, I wish the world was different. But it isn’t.

Then start a thread that says “I want you to vote for Joe Biden”

Don’t start a thread asking for alternatives and then being upset when you’re given alternatives that meet your original criteria. It is— if this is possible on DCUM— disrespectful to the intelligence of the people you’re talking to and certainly not helping anyone’s view of Biden supporters.

OP here. NOPE. The issue is thread after thread, poster chime in with “any other Democrat would beat Trump”.

My post was to tease that out, to get an actual name of who that “any other Dem” might be.

6 pages in and no one has named a candidate that would come close to having the name ID, the infrastructure or the political chops to beat Trump.
I would’ve been All In had somebody named public figure that would have a better chance of beating Trump. This thread only shows there isn’t a stronger candidate or consensus.

The time to complain was a year ago. It is now January 2024. We need to stop complaining and pull on our big boy and big girl panties and get behind Joe Biden.

People named candidates. You then made the new rule they had to be running for president. Only one Democrat is— that’s how a party system works.

So no, no one needs to “stop complaining” that the party doesn’t prioritize them. They need to complain more loudly, in more polls, and to every elected official because it’s very clear that their votes are being taken for granted.

Instead of telling people who Biden has ignored to “stop complaining” why don’t you put on those big girl pants and get your candidate to…do better?

He can call the UN Ambassador tomorrow to stop vetoing SC resolutions on Gaza.

He can mandate family-friendly policies in the Federal government— the country’s largest employer!— tomorrow.

Or he can keep on delivering for white men and hope everyone else will get scolded by someone to “stop complaining!” and come to the polls to keep him in his job.

I DID NOT change the rules. I said name someone who could jump in the race TODAY and beat Trump. Whitmer isn’t going to. Richie Torres isn’t going to. Not today. Maybe in 4 1/2 years. I really hope so!

Please understand not liking your choices doesn’t mean you don’t have one.

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Anonymous wrote:Gretchen Whitmer

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MI or a political junkie knows who she is

1. You’ve changed your criteria since your OP.
2. Says you, since democrats are pinning all their hopes on abortion and turning out women, maybe have a little more respect?
3. Nikki Haley had an even lower profile

OP here.
1. I’ll give you that. She has show no interest in running. But let’s say she wants to run, sadly #2 still holds. People always find some excuse why to not vote for a woman.

I disagree with you about #2. Look how close Clinton came and frankly Whitmer is a significantly better candidate. Add to that she likely carries Michigan which Biden willingly gave up in order to support Netanyahu, and again, she’s my candidate of preference (once again playing by your original rules not your “the only allowed answer is Biden” rules)

I’m OP. I absolutely LOVE Whitmer. I want her to be President. I’m thrilled no one mentioned Gavin Newsom because we all know yhink he deserves the Presidency. But this is not the time.

No, I’m not saying, “only correct answer is Biden.” I’m really truly trying to get people to accept the reality that AT THIS MOMENT Joe Biden is best positioned to beat Trump.

I wish this weren’t the case.
I wish after Trump tried to overturn our election and incited an insurrection Senate Republicans would have voted to convict him. But they didn’t.
I wish after all but a handful of Maga Trump candidates lost in 22, the GOP would’ve seen that staying close to him they would continue to lose seats. But they didn’t.
I wish after Roe was overturned, MAGA realized that abortion bans were a losing issue, but they didn’t.

Yes, I wish the world was different. But it isn’t.

Then start a thread that says “I want you to vote for Joe Biden”

Don’t start a thread asking for alternatives and then being upset when you’re given alternatives that meet your original criteria. It is— if this is possible on DCUM— disrespectful to the intelligence of the people you’re talking to and certainly not helping anyone’s view of Biden supporters.

OP here. NOPE. The issue is thread after thread, poster chime in with “any other Democrat would beat Trump”.

My post was to tease that out, to get an actual name of who that “any other Dem” might be.

6 pages in and no one has named a candidate that would come close to having the name ID, the infrastructure or the political chops to beat Trump.
I would’ve been All In had somebody named public figure that would have a better chance of beating Trump. This thread only shows there isn’t a stronger candidate or consensus.

The time to complain was a year ago. It is now January 2024. We need to stop complaining and pull on our big boy and big girl panties and get behind Joe Biden.

People named candidates. You then made the new rule they had to be running for president. Only one Democrat is— that’s how a party system works.

So no, no one needs to “stop complaining” that the party doesn’t prioritize them. They need to complain more loudly, in more polls, and to every elected official because it’s very clear that their votes are being taken for granted.

Instead of telling people who Biden has ignored to “stop complaining” why don’t you put on those big girl pants and get your candidate to…do better?

He can call the UN Ambassador tomorrow to stop vetoing SC resolutions on Gaza.

He can mandate family-friendly policies in the Federal government— the country’s largest employer!— tomorrow.

Or he can keep on delivering for white men and hope everyone else will get scolded by someone to “stop complaining!” and come to the polls to keep him in his job.

I DID NOT change the rules. I said name someone who could jump in the race TODAY and beat Trump. Whitmer isn’t going to. Richie Torres isn’t going to. Not today. Maybe in 4 1/2 years. I really hope so!

Please understand not liking your choices doesn’t mean you don’t have one.

Whitmer or Torres given the endorsement of the current President and the backing of the party could beat Trump.

You are correct that they will not get that. You are correct that you posed a hypothetical question which it is clear will not come to pass. People really struggle to give up power.

But that does not mean because the Democrats didn’t do what Biden promised he would in 2020 (remember the caretaker candidate? I know it was a long time ago..) that Biden is owed votes. It’s incredibly condescending to look at achievements that overwhelmingly benefited white men and start lecturing women and BIPOC to “stop complaining”. I hope you realize how much you’re part of the problem.

Tell your candidate to start listening to what voters are telling him instead of yelling at them because he doesn’t like what he’s hearing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gretchen Whitmer

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MI or a political junkie knows who she is

1. You’ve changed your criteria since your OP.
2. Says you, since democrats are pinning all their hopes on abortion and turning out women, maybe have a little more respect?
3. Nikki Haley had an even lower profile

OP here.
1. I’ll give you that. She has show no interest in running. But let’s say she wants to run, sadly #2 still holds. People always find some excuse why to not vote for a woman.

I disagree with you about #2. Look how close Clinton came and frankly Whitmer is a significantly better candidate. Add to that she likely carries Michigan which Biden willingly gave up in order to support Netanyahu, and again, she’s my candidate of preference (once again playing by your original rules not your “the only allowed answer is Biden” rules)

I’m OP. I absolutely LOVE Whitmer. I want her to be President. I’m thrilled no one mentioned Gavin Newsom because we all know yhink he deserves the Presidency. But this is not the time.

No, I’m not saying, “only correct answer is Biden.” I’m really truly trying to get people to accept the reality that AT THIS MOMENT Joe Biden is best positioned to beat Trump.

I wish this weren’t the case.
I wish after Trump tried to overturn our election and incited an insurrection Senate Republicans would have voted to convict him. But they didn’t.
I wish after all but a handful of Maga Trump candidates lost in 22, the GOP would’ve seen that staying close to him they would continue to lose seats. But they didn’t.
I wish after Roe was overturned, MAGA realized that abortion bans were a losing issue, but they didn’t.

Yes, I wish the world was different. But it isn’t.

Then start a thread that says “I want you to vote for Joe Biden”

Don’t start a thread asking for alternatives and then being upset when you’re given alternatives that meet your original criteria. It is— if this is possible on DCUM— disrespectful to the intelligence of the people you’re talking to and certainly not helping anyone’s view of Biden supporters.

OP here. NOPE. The issue is thread after thread, poster chime in with “any other Democrat would beat Trump”.

My post was to tease that out, to get an actual name of who that “any other Dem” might be.

6 pages in and no one has named a candidate that would come close to having the name ID, the infrastructure or the political chops to beat Trump.
I would’ve been All In had somebody named public figure that would have a better chance of beating Trump. This thread only shows there isn’t a stronger candidate or consensus.

The time to complain was a year ago. It is now January 2024. We need to stop complaining and pull on our big boy and big girl panties and get behind Joe Biden.

I am going to vote for Biden and keep complaining about him.

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

And it looks like your candidate is at risk of not winning the general election.

Why? Because he’s alienating young voters and BIPOC.

So tell him to do better for those groups. He managed to get tons done for white men in this country, now he’s got about ten months to do something for the demographics that elected him.

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

So he decided to not address issues people have with his policy? And we are supposed to rejoice? No progress on healthcare, total immigration mess...At what point will people decide that they in fact do not want to keep showing up and voting for the least bad choice?

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

So he decided to not address issues people have with his policy? And we are supposed to rejoice? No progress on healthcare, total immigration mess...At what point will people decide that they in fact do not want to keep showing up and voting for the least bad choice?

When do we not vote for the least bad choice? It is always the least bad choice with maybe a few exceptions..... Obama......what are the others? That is how it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

So he decided to not address issues people have with his policy? And we are supposed to rejoice? No progress on healthcare, total immigration mess...At what point will people decide that they in fact do not want to keep showing up and voting for the least bad choice?

When do we not vote for the least bad choice? It is always the least bad choice with maybe a few exceptions..... Obama......what are the others? That is how it is.

Many people decide to stay home and not vote rather than do this. Being the candidate against Trump doesn't mean all Democrats/Independents and Republicans who are not far gone to Trumpism are going to show up and vote for Biden. If he does not campaign on improving/changing some of his policies, he is going to lose voters, some to no vote at all.

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Imagine how much entitlement it takes to work for three years and then say “OK I’ve done everything I’m going to do, now start shouting at everyone I didn’t GAF about”

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I am going to vote for Biden and keep complaining about him.

That's fair! (As long as you don't do it in a way that discourages other people from voting for him.)

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

And it looks like your candidate is at risk of not winning the general election.

Why? Because he’s alienating young voters and BIPOC.

So tell him to do better for those groups. He managed to get tons done for white men in this country, now he’s got about ten months to do something for the demographics that elected him.

I think you to read what Biden has accomplished. I’m sorry this country is still so racist that the MAGA SCOTUS stopped some good policies that would have help more Black Americans. But to say Biden has not done anything for young and BIPOC people is disingenuous.

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

So he decided to not address issues people have with his policy? And we are supposed to rejoice? No progress on healthcare, total immigration mess...At what point will people decide that they in fact do not want to keep showing up and voting for the least bad choice?

When do we not vote for the least bad choice? It is always the least bad choice with maybe a few exceptions..... Obama......what are the others? That is how it is.

Many people decide to stay home and not vote rather than do this. Being the candidate against Trump doesn't mean all Democrats/Independents and Republicans who are not far gone to Trumpism are going to show up and vote for Biden. If he does not campaign on improving/changing some of his policies, he is going to lose voters, some to no vote at all.

Will you be encouraging people to vote for Biden?

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

So he decided to not address issues people have with his policy? And we are supposed to rejoice? No progress on healthcare, total immigration mess...At what point will people decide that they in fact do not want to keep showing up and voting for the least bad choice?

When do we not vote for the least bad choice? It is always the least bad choice with maybe a few exceptions..... Obama......what are the others? That is how it is.

Many people decide to stay home and not vote rather than do this. Being the candidate against Trump doesn't mean all Democrats/Independents and Republicans who are not far gone to Trumpism are going to show up and vote for Biden. If he does not campaign on improving/changing some of his policies, he is going to lose voters, some to no vote at all.

Will you be encouraging people to vote for Biden?

I do not have this type of pull with strangers. Everyone I am close to is voting Biden. Is Biden going to encourage undecided voters to vote for him? That's really his job and his team's job, and what they should focus on now on a large scale.

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Um. We all?

How about— Biden and his team does the work to earn the votes? He’s not polling the way he is with young voters because young people are confused or uninformed, he’s polling that way because he’s doing things they disagree with and expecting them to show up anyway.

So maybe he can “start doing” since he’s the leader of the free world and all?

We're citizens not customers. It's on us to do the work to preserve our country.

Wow people like you really don’t expect much from the leaders in your country huh? Trump is a moron, Biden is a dud. Not interested in voting for either. It’s my right to vote for the Green Party and before you blame me, blame your candidate for being such a colossal failure.

Well at least take responsibility for the actual effect of your vote. The third party is not winning so understand that one of the two will win. Your complaints are just whining if you don't exercise your responsibility to do something to get the better candidate. If you can't differentiate between trump and Biden your analytical abilities are very very weak

Gosh I can’t imagine why people feel like the Democratic Party takes them for granted.

She was “whining” they didn’t do anything about her being sent to a parking lot to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/


They are “whining” about their lived experiences?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/us/politics/biden-trump-black-voters-poll-democrats.html

I have to say with boosters like you Biden might not need detractors.

And your magic fluffy unicorn candidate will change this how, exactly?

At a minimum they won’t have a bunch of people in the country who feel they’ve been de-prioritized by the Biden administration voting against them/staying home.

At maximum they will send the message that you can’t take the votes of women and Black people for granted— and then deliver most of your wins for your usual white male constituents.

Educate yourself about strategy. Biden was not chosen to be the perfect president...he was chosen to beat trump because Hillary lost and lessons were learned.

If your candidate cannot win the general election, it makes zero difference how passionate are the supporters. Trump supporters are about to see 5hus happen for the second time. He is an extremely poor quality candidate in a general election even if some his base will literally commit crimes for him.

And it looks like your candidate is at risk of not winning the general election.

Why? Because he’s alienating young voters and BIPOC.

So tell him to do better for those groups. He managed to get tons done for white men in this country, now he’s got about ten months to do something for the demographics that elected him.

I think you to read what Biden has accomplished. I’m sorry this country is still so racist that the MAGA SCOTUS stopped some good policies that would have help more Black Americans. But to say Biden has not done anything for young and BIPOC people is disingenuous.

I find that most of the people complaining that Biden hasn't done anything are saying that from a place of low information. For example, they don't know that the Inflation Reduction Act helps lower drug prices and ACA health care premiums.