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Anonymous wrote:No Michigan is not rated higher in math by most rankings; anyone involved in the math world knows this (except for lay parents). USNWR is the only standout ranking, ARWU, CWRU, QS all have UW's math higher. Also for most subjects in the college of letters and science UW has ranked higher historically. Look at the 15 year average for UW Madison for UMich in terms of these kinds of departments, even on US News UW averages out. But that makes sense, UW has much more noticeable alumni than UMich in virtually any field, including Sterling Professor of History David Blight and University Professor at Harvard Gary King. Umich doesn't really have any influential alumni in academia, largely because their entire L and S program is a fluke. Umich never was all that good at L and S programs, they simply hyperfocused on their business, law, and medical schools. Eventually that payed off for them, because they were able to grow their endowment to finance their L and S programs significantly over the last 10 years, while Wisconsin suffered budget cuts. Is it really a coincidence that Umich's school of education rose in from a rank of 11 in 2012 to 1 in 2023? Or history which went from 21 to 2 in the same year span? Or math which went from 18 to 11? Back in 2012, Wisc'a education rank was 1, history was 7, and math was 5. Ultimately, though, Wisconsin has always been the better university for well academics, while Umich has always been the professional school. Notable alumni lists between the schools speak for themselves.
So, you admit Wiscy is in a downward trend and Michigan is rising. I can agree with that.
In world university rankings Michigan also dominates Wisconsin.
ARWR THE QS
Michigan 26 23 33
Wisconsin 31 63 Gave up after 100