Whoa FCPS- data breach

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


Yep, she did that, but that statement is not reflective of the totality of her behavior and actions and doesn't negate the PP's point of what she's up to overall.
Anonymous
As a parent who has to deal with the IEP process and FCPS in general- I am glad she does what she does. It helps a lot of families. If FCPS treated families better- she wouldn’t have to do this work.
Anonymous
I wish I had been less "nice" when I tried to get me kid evaluated in elementary. Perhaps we wouldn't have had to go through this process when she hit high school, when the LDs I thought she had became so glaringly obvious and started causing her so many issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wish I had been less "nice" when I tried to get me kid evaluated in elementary. Perhaps we wouldn't have had to go through this process when she hit high school, when the LDs I thought she had became so glaringly obvious and started causing her so many issues.


Being nice only gets you steamrolled and services denied for your kid in FCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


Yep, she did that, but that statement is not reflective of the totality of her behavior and actions and doesn't negate the PP's point of what she's up to overall.


I don’t know what you think she’s up to, unless you have information not in the article you’d like to share?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


DP. For three days? Srsly?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Disagree. FCPS is careless with these records and needs to fix this problem ASAP.


No one disagrees with this. But two wrongs don't make a right and her choice to not inform the district that she was accidentally given the records, and then publish them herself, is wrong.


I actually had a situation where medical records of a different child were sent to a surgeon, who did not discover the mistake until he was in the middle of the surgery on my child.

Working backwards, it was an honest mistake.

However, my keeping quiet and only discreetly following up with the office at fault would serve no purpose for the greater good and would perhaps result in a similar situation happening to another child that did not end as well as it did for my child.

Sometimes, as distasteful as it may seem, you need to speak up and inform other parents and other people affected by a big institutional mistake, even if it embarrasses or harms the person or organization who made the mistake. This is especially true if the mkstake was particularly significant, sloppy, or affects someone else in a way that can cause long lasting harm.

As distasteful as it is for her to go public like this, this particular and type of data breach is not a unique occurrence for FCPS.

Is it an innocent mistake? Almost certainly.

Should this parent have simply quietly informed FCPS and let them sweep it under the rug so the district and school were not embarrassed and no one held accountable, with no parents aware that this even happened? Absolutely not.

Sometimes, doing the right thing is hard and distasteful. This is one of these cases.

Having experienced a critical information mistake myself for my child, I think that this parent did the right thing by going public and contacting whatever affective parents she could find.


No, no, and more no. What an invasion of privacy that is. She could have gone public without being nosy and going through everything. That I could get behind. She let her curiosity get the better of her and invaded people's privacy. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


DP. For three days? Srsly?


And she took them out of the building?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


DP. For three days? Srsly?


And she took them out of the building?


Well, I assume she pocketed (stole) the thumb drive(s).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


DP. For three days? Srsly?


And she took them out of the building?


Well, I assume she pocketed (stole) the thumb drive(s).


Were you there or do you just get off on making false allegations that detract from holding the school district accountable for 35,000 + HIPAA/FERPA violations?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


DP. For three days? Srsly?


And she took them out of the building?


Well, I assume she pocketed (stole) the thumb drive(s).


“In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


DP. For three days? Srsly?


And she took them out of the building?


Well, I assume she pocketed (stole) the thumb drive(s).


“In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


And then files somehow ended up on her website. If she didn't pocket the thumb drives, did she email the documents to herself?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Callie requests piles and piles and piles of information on a weekly basis, literally hoping for FCPS to slip up. When they do, she is gleeful and excited to share with the world.

The reality is, if staff wasn't wasting their time on her useless requests, they'd have more energy to validate all the other requests.

Should they have given her these files? Of course not. But unless staffing is way ramped up, these kinds of slip ups are inevitable.

Her buddy Tisler had a kid at my school. We literally designated multiple staff members both school based and central office JUST to work with her. They are birds of the same feather. So much time was taken away from students just to fulfill her demands. It's gross.

They are manipulative and conniving "advocates" and horrible human beings.


You actually think a parent requesting information for their child is the problem?


No, but that's not what she's doing, as PP indicated.


From the article listed in the OP

“Oettinger, a parent and special education advocate with a long and contentious relationship with Fairfax administrators, went to a school on three consecutive days last month to examine her children’s files — data such as test scores, attendance records and audio recordings of meetings she’s been requesting for years. In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


DP. For three days? Srsly?


And she took them out of the building?


Well, I assume she pocketed (stole) the thumb drive(s).


“In addition to boxes of paper files, the district provided her with thumb drives and computer discs that Oettinger estimates include personal data on roughly 35,000 students.”


And then files somehow ended up on her website. If she didn't pocket the thumb drives, did she email the documents to herself?


They probably ended up there because none of the files were even password protected. Nobody outside those associated with each case should have been able to open those files if the district had done it’s job. You can spin this 100 ways but someone at FCPS royally F’ed up.
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