Failed Principal > Central Office Pipeline Alive and Well?

[Anonymous]

Central office staff don’t need a 6% raise. And we don’t need to keep adding highly paid “chiefs.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Central office staff don’t need a 6% raise. And we don’t need to keep adding highly paid “chiefs.”

We will continue to add central administrators as the community continues to demand more programming!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And those two with convictions discussed upthread should absolutely have been fired. Reid is asking for a huge transfer from the county budget but keeps so many on central office payroll when they should be fired.

There are 25,175 employees in FCPS. Of that 7.5% are non-school based. Of that 1888, you’re talking about less than 10 people in these central office roles.

That means that 99.996% of staff are NOT in that “so many on central office payroll.” Staff need that 6% increase.

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People responding here have a lot of distorted perceptions--or just some weird agenda.

[Anonymous]

I would like to see the total compensation of non-school based staff. I know chiefs make well upwards of $200K and there are a lot of employees at willow oaks and gatehouse. I don’t care that they are a smaller number than school-based, we still pay them and most do very little to help teachers and students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Central office staff don’t need a 6% raise. And we don’t need to keep adding highly paid “chiefs.”

You might be surprised to learn that many folks in the school buildings daily helping your child are central office employees. But eff them, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Central office staff don’t need a 6% raise. And we don’t need to keep adding highly paid “chiefs.”

You might be surprised to learn that many folks in the school buildings daily helping your child are central office employees. But eff them, right?

I would love for them to move back to schools full time. That’s where there are shortages and that’s where we need help. Not PowerPoint trainings and one off coachings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which successful principals chose to leave FCPS? Did the majority go to over districts, or what happened to them? It would be interesting to see where they landed, and to understand why they left. It doesn’t seem like a big challenge if the district wanted to have real data about what caused them to go.

FCPS used to give an extra pension that neighboring districts don’t. Principals who have reached eligibility for that pension are “retiring” from FCPS, collecting retirement funds, and then working for neighboring districts and earning full salaries.

That extra pension was cut sometime in the late 90s or early 00s. These older teachers and administrators are grandfathered in. No one in their 40s or younger is getting an extra pension. I know because I was not offered that extra pension when I started work in the mid 00s.


-former FCPS teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which successful principals chose to leave FCPS? Did the majority go to over districts, or what happened to them? It would be interesting to see where they landed, and to understand why they left. It doesn’t seem like a big challenge if the district wanted to have real data about what caused them to go.

FCPS used to give an extra pension that neighboring districts don’t. Principals who have reached eligibility for that pension are “retiring” from FCPS, collecting retirement funds, and then working for neighboring districts and earning full salaries.

That extra pension was cut sometime in the late 90s or early 00s. These older teachers and administrators are grandfathered in. No one in their 40s or younger is getting an extra pension. I know because I was not offered that extra pension when I started work in the mid 00s.


-former FCPS teacher

Wrong, FCPS still gives an extra pension, the ERFC, that other districts don’t give. They also give the VRS pension. The specifics of the ERFC plan for newer employees are different from older employees but it still exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Central office staff don’t need a 6% raise. And we don’t need to keep adding highly paid “chiefs.”

We will continue to add central administrators as the community continues to demand more programming!

Lets see, neighboring districts have middle school sports- can we get those too? What about consistency of offering across middle school and high schools?

[Anonymous]

Happens often

[Anonymous]

New library coordinator is a joke. I’m sure she was a joke of a principal too. Shame they can’t just get her out of the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see the total compensation of non-school based staff. I know chiefs make well upwards of $200K and there are a lot of employees at willow oaks and gatehouse. I don’t care that they are a smaller number than school-based, we still pay them and most do very little to help teachers and students.

This and the teacher shortage is getting worse each year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our terrible elementary school principal got promoted to a middle school where o hear he is just as terrible. Hoping he gets a high school next!

I don't think moving from an ES principal to a MS principal is considered a "promotion"--just a job switch.

It’s more responsibility and typically more kids. Is the pay higher to reflect this?

ES and MS principals are paid the same now. Some elementary schools are almost as big as a middle school, and ES principals were tired of getting less pay for the same work. While a MS principal may have more students, they also have more administrators on their team.

WE have two AP's that both do little. One causes trouble with hard working staff the other sits in their office in la la land. Both get paid more than teachers....they can't even jump in when we are short staffed. Why...."meetings".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see the total compensation of non-school based staff. I know chiefs make well upwards of $200K and there are a lot of employees at willow oaks and gatehouse. I don’t care that they are a smaller number than school-based, we still pay them and most do very little to help teachers and students.

This and the teacher shortage is getting worse each year.

FCPS hiring a few chiefs has literally nothing to do with a teacher shortage. Their salaries are drops in the large bucket of the FCPS budget. Teachers who are upset about their salaries need to go after the real issue! a lack of funding from the state and county.

Or, start getting rid of wasteful programming that the community demands but is unnecessary:

1) AAP centers
2) AAP center transportation
3) the entire DEI department
4) the Get2Green staff

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see the total compensation of non-school based staff. I know chiefs make well upwards of $200K and there are a lot of employees at willow oaks and gatehouse. I don’t care that they are a smaller number than school-based, we still pay them and most do very little to help teachers and students.

This and the teacher shortage is getting worse each year.

FCPS hiring a few chiefs has literally nothing to do with a teacher shortage. Their salaries are drops in the large bucket of the FCPS budget. Teachers who are upset about their salaries need to go after the real issue! a lack of funding from the state and county.

Or, start getting rid of wasteful programming that the community demands but is unnecessary:

1) AAP centers
2) AAP center transportation
3) the entire DEI department
4) the Get2Green staff

Teachers are done fighting it's been many years of it. Dr. Reid is supposed to be the answer right....well her and her chief of staffs can go after it for teachers. They seem to have the time in Gatehouse and they get paid way more.