"No Labels" Party
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Anonymous
IRV won't happen in most places by the 2024 election. |
Anonymous
Your post doesn't address the realities of the Electoral College. |
Anonymous
That’s an opinion, not a fact, and definitely not a solution. |
Anonymous
+1 It’s also fully insane. Anyone lumping Biden, whom they’ve been taught to hate, in with Trump, is not a serious person with serious intentions. The GOP has stated they’re going to ban abortion nationwide if they get power. There is no “both sides” here for over fifty percent of the population. |
Anonymous
+1 It’s simple math. And all these “DNC RNC sheeps” like one of the parties didn’t try to overthrow the government, is open that they’ll put women into a permanent underclass, that they’re going to keep banning books and medical care… basically at this point it’s safe to assume that anyone pushing RFK Jr or “No Labels” is doing the work of the GOP. And that’s all it is. Working to elect Republicans under the guise of “I know better than you.” |
Anonymous
While you're correct about political party reform being a necessity for the long term health of the country, I can certainly understand how many voters would view the short term Trump problem as a greater concern in the 2024 general election in which case makes voting for Biden or anyone else with a pulse that the DNC nominates a no-brainer choice. I wouldn't fault a voter thinking long term by not casting a vote for an RNC or DNC candidate and I also wouldn't fault a voter for casting a vote for Biden just to make sure Trump isn't elected. It's a sad predicament for voters to be in. I do find fault with anyone still smoking the Trump crack. |
Anonymous
If the GOP gets back into power, with the assistance of the likes of No Labels, the continued existence of the United States is not a guarantee. Voting for Trump or whatever garbage third party candidates there are isn’t thinking long term. If Clinton had gotten into office we wouldn’t be debating about whether or not we should let women die in hospital parking lots until their embryo is sufficiently dead. |
Anonymous
True but once Trump is out of the picture, we'll still have the RNC/DNC mess to deal with at some point. |
Anonymous
I think you’re missing my larger point. If you’re still, somehow, honestly equating the Republican Party with the Democratic Party, you are part of the problem. It’s like having two kids, a serial killer and a kid with autism, and blaming them equally for societal problems. |
Anonymous
The Republican and Democratic Parties are one thing and the RNC and DNC are another. There is no "equating" as that isn't applicable in this case. The traditional values of the Republican and Democratic parties have never been our problem. The RNC and DNC have run amok with their money, power, and influence to the extent that they are no longer providing anything of value in our election process. They have created an atmosphere where our best and brightest no longer have any interest in entering the political arena. For example, when was the last time we had a newly elected president that by any reasonable measure made sense as someone fit, well-qualified, and ready for the job? The 1990s! Our last 4 newly elected presidents- son of a former president, one term senator, Trump, and a person 20 years past their political prime. This is not acceptable. I challenge anyone to come up with a rational explanation of how these four most recent newly elected presidents could possibly have been anywhere close to the best options as leaders of the most powerful country in the world at the time they were elected? The system isn't working very well under the rule of the RNC and DNC. It just isn't. Step out of the political bubble that encapsulates you long enough to see the big picture for what it is. Yes, everything about Trump and his political era has been god awful but he is only drop or two in a large bucket of systemic political issues we are currently faced with. |
Anonymous
Nice try. One of those things is not like the other and that one is trump. |
Anonymous
The RNC has an agreement with Donald Trump and the Trump campaign that joins them at them hip and inexchange the RNC also pays for Trump's legal bills. So it forces the policitians in the party fealty to Trump and Trumpism. The RNC also takes unlimited money from select billionaires who also, apparently have purchased Supreme Court seats trhough their support of shady non-profits as well as select Senators like Mitch McConnell. The DNC has done no such thing, but equating the two in your minds has given you the "they all do it" attitude that is even worse for our country, because you have taken critical thinking out of the equation and listened to the BS. Equating what you admit is horrible about Trumpism with the platform of the left, which features better working conditions, healthcare, clean air, clean water, the abilty for women to manage their bodies is a false equivalence that cannot be matched. |
Anonymous
+1 Whether that PP thinks that the RNC and the DNC or the Republicans and the Democrats are the same thing doesn’t make it accurate. Money in politics is gross, but even that’s a lopsided deal since it’s the GOP that keeps shutting down reform on it, to the extent that the Alito-Roberts court ruled that corporations are people with a voice that can be allowed no limitations whatsoever. And the RNC took heavy money from Russia. The DNC didn’t do that. Thank you so much for writing what you wrote so eloquently. |
Anonymous
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I don't get the Biden hate.
Yes, he is old. But, he has managed to pass consequential legislation that is improving the lives of every day Americans. He has underpinned over 800,000 manufacturing (blue collar) jobs. He has bolstered worker safety and hours rules. He has done what he can on women's rights. He has steered the economy out of the COVID morass left by Trump. He has gotten us out of Afghanistan (which given the hand he was dealt was as good as could be expected) We have the lowest unemployment, the highest consumer confidence, the highest GDP etc in the industrialized world. The border is improving (haven't seen anyone bleating about that in over two weeks) And he has brought the global community back together to stand up to Russian aggression. I get it, he is old, he is an old school liberal, not a progressive, but our country is 100 times better today than it was in January, 2021. |
Anonymous
Again, no "equating" and our problems aren't as simple as the right vs left and us vs them mentality Fox News and MSNBC have successfully cast upon many of us. You have to step back to look at out political landscape over the past 20 to 25 years without hyperfocusing on our Trumpism problem. Weakness across the board, both sides and in the middle, in our political system is how Trump came to power. If the RNC and DNC were functioning at a high level, Trump would never made it to the primary debate stage. Our two party system is no longer working well due to the two private entities that have taken complete control of it. Acknowledging this situation doesn't mean that you're lumping certain politicians, parties, or platforms together as if they are equally awful when they're not. |