Did college turn your kids, especially daughters, into political radicals? If so, which college

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans should not go to colleges.

And no doubt you call others (Republicans) "fascists," amirite? Zero self-awareness.

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Anonymous wrote:so we can avoid? I’m not having my kids turned into that.

Reasonable concern. Interesting that many posters do not believe in the effectiveness of indoctrination. Happens at lots of schools--both liberal and conservative. Happens in many countries such as China, Russia, and in the Middle East. Probably happens at Disney training as well as at other businesses and corporations.

My impression is that OP wants his/her children to get an education, not be subject to indoctrination focused on extreme political, religious, or social views whether conservative or liberal.

I watched a national news report last night that shared survey results which showed that Generation Z workers/employees are being fired frequently because "they are too easily offended" and, therefore, too hard to manage, to train, and to generate productive work.

Good. It's heartening to see that not everyone is cowed by bullies.

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of the problem is when individuals fail to listen to differing points of view in a respectful and thoughtful manner.

Doesn't matter whether I am a liberal, a conservative, a moderate, or a total agnostic, I still have to live and function in a world full of folks with different perspectives, different experiences, different beliefs, and different priorities. Yet, we all drive on the same roads.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow OP you are an idiot so your kid should go to Liberty or Hillsdale

Because the University of Satan is too intelligent for your kids

Wow... what an insightful and articulate response. I wouldn't have expected anything less from a LWNJ.
-not the OP

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Anonymous wrote:so we can avoid? I’m not having my kids turned into that.

Reasonable concern. Interesting that many posters do not believe in the effectiveness of indoctrination. Happens at lots of schools--both liberal and conservative. Happens in many countries such as China, Russia, and in the Middle East. Probably happens at Disney training as well as at other businesses and corporations.

My impression is that OP wants his/her children to get an education, not be subject to indoctrination focused on extreme political, religious, or social views whether conservative or liberal.

I watched a national news report last night that shared survey results which showed that Generation Z workers/employees are being fired frequently because "they are too easily offended" and, therefore, too hard to manage, to train, and to generate productive work.

Good. It's heartening to see that not everyone is cowed by bullies.

The irony being that the people who are fighting to call people slurs, and label them mentally ill and say racist things and the r slur all under the guise of free speech are the true bullies.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD graduated from VT a raging leftist activist esp. on abortion issues

Sorry but most young women believe very strongly in pro choice, that didnt come from college, it came from outrage that she is not in control of her own body.

Oh Please. Here is 101 on how to control your body
1) Don't hookup
2 Before you have sex, build some emotional connection
3) Use the pill, condom, or both
4) Use Plan B right after unprotected sex

If you didn't do any of this, you are a du***ss and can't say, I want to control of my body.

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Anonymous wrote:so we can avoid? I’m not having my kids turned into that.

I wish you much success. I vetoed women's colleges, Oberlin, and Middlebury. My DD went to UChicago and even so, by the time COVID sent her home in 2nd year, was coldly responding "they have insurance" when I showed her the looting and riot damage to small businesses in our own central city neighborhood. I don't think you can keep any Gen Z kids away from radicalization, because even schools that haven't gone entirely off the deep end still have radical communities, and then there's the whole internet to contend with.

But, keep trying to provide balance and critical thinking skills. A few years later, my DD is a bit older and wiser, and has picked up some solid bullsh!t-detecting skills thanks to her excellent liberal arts education. She doesn't follow radicals blindly anymore and can handle the thought that they might not find her cool if she pushes back on their worst excesses. The worst of it was a phase.

Everyone becomes liberal in college and then adjusts as they get older. I studied PoliSci and had two socialist professors. They were actually really interesting and thought-provoking (what college should be afterall!), but they didn’t influence me long-term. I was grateful for the experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans should not go to colleges.

They do tend to be anti-academia, anti-intellectual, anti-education, anti-science, anti-schools, anti-teacher, etc.

DP. I'm not sure how shouting down those they disagree with makes liberals pro- any of those things, but do go on. Their behavior is the very antithesis of pro-intellectual.

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Anonymous wrote:so we can avoid? I’m not having my kids turned into that.

I wish you much success. I vetoed women's colleges, Oberlin, and Middlebury. My DD went to UChicago and even so, by the time COVID sent her home in 2nd year, was coldly responding "they have insurance" when I showed her the looting and riot damage to small businesses in our own central city neighborhood. I don't think you can keep any Gen Z kids away from radicalization, because even schools that haven't gone entirely off the deep end still have radical communities, and then there's the whole internet to contend with.

But, keep trying to provide balance and critical thinking skills. A few years later, my DD is a bit older and wiser, and has picked up some solid bullsh!t-detecting skills thanks to her excellent liberal arts education. She doesn't follow radicals blindly anymore and can handle the thought that they might not find her cool if she pushes back on their worst excesses. The worst of it was a phase.

Everyone becomes liberal in college and then adjusts as they get older. I studied PoliSci and had two socialist professors. They were actually really interesting and thought-provoking (what college should be afterall!), but they didn’t influence me long-term. I was grateful for the experience.

Not anymore: https://www.ft.com/content/c361e372-769e-45cd-a063-f5c0a7767cf4

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Displaying the Ten Commandments in a classroom doesn’t count as religious instruction?

Nope. It is instilling values into our precious youth.

Not MY values. Go away MAGAT. My kid is already pretty radicalized left in high school as her bodily autonomy rights are being stripped away and her rights as a gay person are being called in to question all across the country. So I’m watching this post with a ton of interest.

Geeee I wonder who radicalized her?

+100
Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Mine majored in accounting. 😀

I’m the VT parent pp. So did mine.

Mine majored in NSFA - lots of level-headed, moderate kids in that major.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:so we can avoid? I’m not having my kids turned into that.

Reasonable concern. Interesting that many posters do not believe in the effectiveness of indoctrination. Happens at lots of schools--both liberal and conservative. Happens in many countries such as China, Russia, and in the Middle East. Probably happens at Disney training as well as at other businesses and corporations.

My impression is that OP wants his/her children to get an education, not be subject to indoctrination focused on extreme political, religious, or social views whether conservative or liberal.

I watched a national news report last night that shared survey results which showed that Generation Z workers/employees are being fired frequently because "they are too easily offended" and, therefore, too hard to manage, to train, and to generate productive work.

The oldest members of Gen. Z are 26. The youngest are 10. Let's hear how they are as employees in 10-20 years.

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Anonymous wrote:so we can avoid? I’m not having my kids turned into that.

Reasonable concern. Interesting that many posters do not believe in the effectiveness of indoctrination. Happens at lots of schools--both liberal and conservative. Happens in many countries such as China, Russia, and in the Middle East. Probably happens at Disney training as well as at other businesses and corporations.

My impression is that OP wants his/her children to get an education, not be subject to indoctrination focused on extreme political, religious, or social views whether conservative or liberal.

I watched a national news report last night that shared survey results which showed that Generation Z workers/employees are being fired frequently because "they are too easily offended" and, therefore, too hard to manage, to train, and to generate productive work.

Good. It's heartening to see that not everyone is cowed by bullies.

The irony being that the people who are fighting to call people slurs, and label them mentally ill and say racist things and the r slur all under the guise of free speech are the true bullies.

And so who, exactly, is "fighting" to do any of those things? You actually do sound mentally ill.

You must be blind. Also proving my point about bullying.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we kept our DDs under close supervision at home until their weddings.

Ma Duggar, is that you?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD graduated from VT a raging leftist activist esp. on abortion issues

Sorry but most young women believe very strongly in pro choice, that didnt come from college, it came from outrage that she is not in control of her own body.

Oh Please. Here is 101 on how to control your body
1) Don't hookup
2 Before you have sex, build some emotional connection
3) Use the pill, condom, or both Many consider this an abortion; could be outlawed in the future
4) Use Plan B right after unprotected sex Many consider this an abortion; could be outlawed in the future

If you didn't do any of this, you are a du***ss and can't say, I want to control of my body.

Note the italicized. I agree that 1) will be the only way to control your own body if abortion rights are allowed to be up to each state and the anti-abortion proponents are elected. Then again, even in that situation, 1) won’t be enough in cases of rape, incest, etc., especially when these same anti-abortion elected also decide that whoever deposited the sperm has an equal say over the fate of the pregnancy.