"Justice" a new documentary on Kavanaugh

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that someone could watch both testimonies and walk away from that thinking that Kavanaugh was fit to be on the Supreme Court. All he needed to do was the calmly say something like how he didn’t believe that he was possible of doing that, that he did have a drinking problem when he was a teenager and that he’s spent the rest of his life trying to be a supporter of women by hiring a greater percentage of female clerks than the vast majority of judges. People who would be willing to say that people can change from their 18-year old selves. Instead he lied about his drinking, he lied about his behaviors in high school and college and he went completely unhinged about the Clintons and how he hates all Democrats. Frankly we should only have justices who can rise above partisanship- instead was have an immoral, unhinged, extreme partisan on the court. Just what we need.


NOT ONE THING KAVANAUGH SAID or "should have said" would have satisfied any of you rabid liberals.
Try being falsely accused of gang rape - very publicly - and then calmly respond to ridiculous questions.
And, he lied about NOTHING.

You folks need to just get over your Kavanaugh fetish and resign yourselves to the fact that he is on the Supreme Court and will remain there for a very long time.
Even though there are some among your ranks that have considered assassinating him.

How on earth can you say he lied about nothing. You can’t possibly know that.


Particularly when we know for a fact that Kavanaugh lied about Roe.
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No, I'm not a "forensic psychiatrist" but someone trained in a much more relevant discipline.

Ford was clearly lying. She was making things up about her lie-detector test -- it was obvious.

Yes, trained bullshit artist.


The ‘escape door’ was a load of crap too. It was a door to a second apartment.


+1
As was the absurd “flying phobia” she claimed to have - yet that didn’t prevent her from flying off for far-flung surfing vacations.



That was very funny indeed.

Dems went bat crazy on such a fraud
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Anonymous wrote:Confirmation hearings. If proved that he lied during these hearings, then he can be impeached. Fat chance, I know but it will be a lot more than a ripple.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-documentary-sundance-1235495305/amp/



And, if Ford lied can she be prosecuted? Because I believe that is much more likely.



Ford clearly lied. I watched her testimony and she showed all signs of lying.

Are you a forensic psychiatrist? If so I’d love to hear more. If not then you are a fool for posting this.


Cute.

No, I'm not a "forensic psychiatrist" but someone trained in a much more relevant discipline.

Ford was clearly lying. She was making things up about her lie-detector test -- it was obvious.

I’m very interested in what that relevant discipline is and what signs you saw.



Won't share the discipline but here is something that was a red flag to me and colleagues.

At some point Ford said that she had taken a lie detector test the very same day her grandma (or mother?) had died. The interviewer then interrupted to doublecheck if that was the case, because you should never take such a test in such an emotional moment, it screws the baseline and the results.

Ford realized that her previous testimony made no sense and improvised something like "Uh I'm not sure, might have been a day before or after the funeral"

Which makes even less sense. Attending your grandma's funeral is one of those moments you remember vividly, and if you took a lie detector test in some office that same day you'd remember it. And if you say it was that day you don't just make things up and then say it might have been a day before or later.


My brother died when I was 28. I went to his funeral and I do know the month but have no idea of the actual date.

You probably also think that Anita Hill lied


It's not about the actual date. You would remember if you did something else major the same day.



Exactly. Especially if it happened less than a year ago and you had spent weeks training your testimony with multiple lawyers (all helpfully provided by the Democratic Party).

Ford was an obvious fraud.


Even with her trained testimony she came off as being unhinged. She was a hot mess and had a crazed look in her eyes. Definitely not a credible witness to everyone except hard core dems.


Yes BK did come across as unhinged. Dod you see all those faces he made? Way too emotional and overly dramatic. Clearly staged. He is such a liar.


I'm going to accuse you of sexual assault. I expect you to remain calm and poised while I do so, televised in front of millions, even if you know you're innocent. Let's see how that goes.
DP
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Anonymous wrote:Confirmation hearings. If proved that he lied during these hearings, then he can be impeached. Fat chance, I know but it will be a lot more than a ripple.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-documentary-sundance-1235495305/amp/



And, if Ford lied can she be prosecuted? Because I believe that is much more likely.



Ford clearly lied. I watched her testimony and she showed all signs of lying.


I hope you never serve in a jury.

Guilt or innocence should be established on facts, not feelings.


DP. Exactly. Which is why Kavanaugh should *never* have been considered guilty of anything. Allegations are NOT the same thing as facts.
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Anonymous wrote:Confirmation hearings. If proved that he lied during these hearings, then he can be impeached. Fat chance, I know but it will be a lot more than a ripple.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-documentary-sundance-1235495305/amp/



And, if Ford lied can she be prosecuted? Because I believe that is much more likely.



Ford clearly lied. I watched her testimony and she showed all signs of lying.

Are you a forensic psychiatrist? If so I’d love to hear more. If not then you are a fool for posting this.


Cute.

No, I'm not a "forensic psychiatrist" but someone trained in a much more relevant discipline.

Ford was clearly lying. She was making things up about her lie-detector test -- it was obvious.

I’m very interested in what that relevant discipline is and what signs you saw.



Won't share the discipline but here is something that was a red flag to me and colleagues.

At some point Ford said that she had taken a lie detector test the very same day her grandma (or mother?) had died. The interviewer then interrupted to doublecheck if that was the case, because you should never take such a test in such an emotional moment, it screws the baseline and the results.

Ford realized that her previous testimony made no sense and improvised something like "Uh I'm not sure, might have been a day before or after the funeral"

Which makes even less sense. Attending your grandma's funeral is one of those moments you remember vividly, and if you took a lie detector test in some office that same day you'd remember it. And if you say it was that day you don't just make things up and then say it might have been a day before or later.


My brother died when I was 28. I went to his funeral and I do know the month but have no idea of the actual date.

You probably also think that Anita Hill lied


It's not about the actual date. You would remember if you did something else major the same day.



Exactly. Especially if it happened less than a year ago and you had spent weeks training your testimony with multiple lawyers (all helpfully provided by the Democratic Party).

Ford was an obvious fraud.


Even with her trained testimony she came off as being unhinged. She was a hot mess and had a crazed look in her eyes. Definitely not a credible witness to everyone except hard core dems.


Yes BK did come across as unhinged. Dod you see all those faces he made? Way too emotional and overly dramatic. Clearly staged. He is such a liar.


I'm going to accuse you of sexual assault. I expect you to remain calm and poised while I do so, televised in front of millions, even if you know you're innocent. Let's see how that goes.
DP


I can think of quite a few instances where similar situations happened where someone was accused, rightly, or wrongly, and did not become as unhinged over it as Kavanaugh did.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
No, I'm not a "forensic psychiatrist" but someone trained in a much more relevant discipline.

Ford was clearly lying. She was making things up about her lie-detector test -- it was obvious.

Yes, trained bullshit artist.


The ‘escape door’ was a load of crap too. It was a door to a second apartment.


+1
As was the absurd “flying phobia” she claimed to have - yet that didn’t prevent her from flying off for far-flung surfing vacations.



That was very funny indeed.

Dems went bat crazy on such a fraud


She was far more believable than Bart O'Kavanaugh
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Confirmation hearings. If proved that he lied during these hearings, then he can be impeached. Fat chance, I know but it will be a lot more than a ripple.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-documentary-sundance-1235495305/amp/



And, if Ford lied can she be prosecuted? Because I believe that is much more likely.



Ford clearly lied. I watched her testimony and she showed all signs of lying.

Are you a forensic psychiatrist? If so I’d love to hear more. If not then you are a fool for posting this.


Cute.

No, I'm not a "forensic psychiatrist" but someone trained in a much more relevant discipline.

Ford was clearly lying. She was making things up about her lie-detector test -- it was obvious.

I’m very interested in what that relevant discipline is and what signs you saw.



Won't share the discipline but here is something that was a red flag to me and colleagues.

At some point Ford said that she had taken a lie detector test the very same day her grandma (or mother?) had died. The interviewer then interrupted to doublecheck if that was the case, because you should never take such a test in such an emotional moment, it screws the baseline and the results.

Ford realized that her previous testimony made no sense and improvised something like "Uh I'm not sure, might have been a day before or after the funeral"

Which makes even less sense. Attending your grandma's funeral is one of those moments you remember vividly, and if you took a lie detector test in some office that same day you'd remember it. And if you say it was that day you don't just make things up and then say it might have been a day before or later.


My brother died when I was 28. I went to his funeral and I do know the month but have no idea of the actual date.

You probably also think that Anita Hill lied


It's not about the actual date. You would remember if you did something else major the same day.



Exactly. Especially if it happened less than a year ago and you had spent weeks training your testimony with multiple lawyers (all helpfully provided by the Democratic Party).

Ford was an obvious fraud.


Even with her trained testimony she came off as being unhinged. She was a hot mess and had a crazed look in her eyes. Definitely not a credible witness to everyone except hard core dems.


Yes BK did come across as unhinged. Dod you see all those faces he made? Way too emotional and overly dramatic. Clearly staged. He is such a liar.


I'm going to accuse you of sexual assault. I expect you to remain calm and poised while I do so, televised in front of millions, even if you know you're innocent. Let's see how that goes.
DP


PP here - forgot to mention that my allegations will be 35+ years old, so there's no chance you'll be able to prove your innocence. Everyone will believe me though, even though my accusations are decades old and not supported or substantiated by any actual facts or witnesses. Because we "always believe the woman."
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"I LIKE BEER!!!!"
-Supreme Court Justice Nominee

You Kavanaugh defenders are complete clowns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Confirmation hearings. If proved that he lied during these hearings, then he can be impeached. Fat chance, I know but it will be a lot more than a ripple.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-documentary-sundance-1235495305/amp/



And, if Ford lied can she be prosecuted? Because I believe that is much more likely.



Ford clearly lied. I watched her testimony and she showed all signs of lying.


I hope you never serve in a jury.

Guilt or innocence should be established on facts, not feelings.


True.
And, Ford came with no facts whatsoever. Even the people she claimed to have been present (including her best friend) could not confirm her story.
She had no dates, places, or anything close to facts.


+1
"But it *feels* like he should be guilty!" - Democrats
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Confirmation hearings. If proved that he lied during these hearings, then he can be impeached. Fat chance, I know but it will be a lot more than a ripple.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-documentary-sundance-1235495305/amp/



And, if Ford lied can she be prosecuted? Because I believe that is much more likely.



Ford clearly lied. I watched her testimony and she showed all signs of lying.

Are you a forensic psychiatrist? If so I’d love to hear more. If not then you are a fool for posting this.


Cute.

No, I'm not a "forensic psychiatrist" but someone trained in a much more relevant discipline.

Ford was clearly lying. She was making things up about her lie-detector test -- it was obvious.

I’m very interested in what that relevant discipline is and what signs you saw.



Won't share the discipline but here is something that was a red flag to me and colleagues.

At some point Ford said that she had taken a lie detector test the very same day her grandma (or mother?) had died. The interviewer then interrupted to doublecheck if that was the case, because you should never take such a test in such an emotional moment, it screws the baseline and the results.

Ford realized that her previous testimony made no sense and improvised something like "Uh I'm not sure, might have been a day before or after the funeral"

Which makes even less sense. Attending your grandma's funeral is one of those moments you remember vividly, and if you took a lie detector test in some office that same day you'd remember it. And if you say it was that day you don't just make things up and then say it might have been a day before or later.


My brother died when I was 28. I went to his funeral and I do know the month but have no idea of the actual date.

You probably also think that Anita Hill lied


It's not about the actual date. You would remember if you did something else major the same day.



Exactly. Especially if it happened less than a year ago and you had spent weeks training your testimony with multiple lawyers (all helpfully provided by the Democratic Party).

Ford was an obvious fraud.


Even with her trained testimony she came off as being unhinged. She was a hot mess and had a crazed look in her eyes. Definitely not a credible witness to everyone except hard core dems.


Actually, you are describing Kavanaugh quite accurately— screaming about his beer, red faced and teary. That alone should have raised serious questions about his fitness for the court. Most of us don’t approach job interviews like that, and, if we did, we almost certainly would not get the job. It did, however, distract from the very major issue of who paid his bills — something that could keep someone with a much less impactful job from getting a security clearance. Who owns him? And what are they getting for their money?

(Yalie from that era who finds Ford to be quite credible.).


When the police interrogate a potential suspect, they look at behavior like Kavanaugh’s. They consider it normal to be angry and upset when accused of a crime you didn’t commit.


Exactly. I'd be red-faced and teary too had I been falsely accused, in front of the entire world. And it wasn't as if these false accusations had happened months ago, and he had had time to process and compose himself. If I recall, he had to appear in the hearing immediately after the accusations were lobbed.
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Kavanaugh was performing during the heated moments of the hearing--and he had been encouraged to do so by Trump and McGahn. Granted, everyone performs during those hearings but his red-faced, unhinged performance was extreme. He was performing for an audience of one.

"Trump, who felt the Fox interview landed poorly, encouraged the more amped-up tenor during the hearing, according to people familiar with his thinking. Speaking a day before the event, Trump acknowledged he was viewing the matter through the lens of his own experience, which includes dozens of accusations of sexual misconduct over several decades that he has flatly denied.

McGahn, who sat behind Kavanaugh in the hearing room, also prodded for a more forceful tone. And that is what emerged during emotional and at moments impetuous testimony.
That's bullshit.


(FYI McGahn first brought BK to Trump's attention. "McGahn and Kavanaugh are longtime friends; both served in President George W. Bush’s administration...")

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/06/politics/how-kavanaugh-maneuvered-to-win-his-confirmation-fight/index.html
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Anonymous wrote: the loser Republicans on this thread are so predictable in their misogyny and simultaneous fear of the fact that she was a reliable witness.

And she’s not even the point of Brett Kavanaugh. The point is that he is unfit for the bench in temperament and in his total and complete lack of honor. The other point is that the GOP is corrupt and corrupts everything they touch. They are unfit.


Stating that someone is not a credible witness isn't "misogyny," as much as you wish it was. The only losers here are those who continue to claim someone is guilty, with zero substantiation. Grow up.
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Anonymous wrote:Calling CBF a"hot mess," that you can tell that she is lying just by looking at her, she doesn't remember dates, times, people after decades are victim blaming. People like you are the reason rape victims do not want to testify and rapists go free.

Shame on all of you


DP. She had three decades to come forward, but did not. Give us all a break.
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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that someone could watch both testimonies and walk away from that thinking that Kavanaugh was fit to be on the Supreme Court. All he needed to do was the calmly say something like how he didn’t believe that he was possible of doing that, that he did have a drinking problem when he was a teenager and that he’s spent the rest of his life trying to be a supporter of women by hiring a greater percentage of female clerks than the vast majority of judges. People who would be willing to say that people can change from their 18-year old selves. Instead he lied about his drinking, he lied about his behaviors in high school and college and he went completely unhinged about the Clintons and how he hates all Democrats. Frankly we should only have justices who can rise above partisanship- instead was have an immoral, unhinged, extreme partisan on the court. Just what we need.


NOT ONE THING KAVANAUGH SAID or "should have said" would have satisfied any of you rabid liberals.
Try being falsely accused of gang rape - very publicly - and then calmly respond to ridiculous questions.
And, he lied about NOTHING.

You folks need to just get over your Kavanaugh fetish and resign yourselves to the fact that he is on the Supreme Court and will remain there for a very long time.
Even though there are some among your ranks that have considered assassinating him.


+ a million
There are some seriously unstable LWNJs who can't seem to shake their obsession with him. Talk about "immoral, unhinged, and extreme partisans."
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Anonymous wrote: the loser Republicans on this thread are so predictable in their misogyny and simultaneous fear of the fact that she was a reliable witness.

And she’s not even the point of Brett Kavanaugh. The point is that he is unfit for the bench in temperament and in his total and complete lack of honor. The other point is that the GOP is corrupt and corrupts everything they touch. They are unfit.


Stating that someone is not a credible witness isn't "misogyny," as much as you wish it was. The only losers here are those who continue to claim someone is guilty, with zero substantiation. Grow up.


There was "zero substantiation" because the FBI did not do--for whatever reason--a thorough investigation. So either they were told to go easy on BK, or it is their practice to not thoroughly investigate Supreme Court nominees.

The FBI got 4,500 tips about Kavenaugh that they did not follow up on.

"Not only did the FBI refuse to interview Dr. Ford or the corroborators listed in our letter to FBI Director Wray, it failed to act on the over 4,500 tips it received about then-nominee Kavanaugh," the attorneys said. "Instead, it handed the information over to the White House, allowing those who supported Kavanaugh to falsely claim that the FBI found no wrongdoing."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/07/22/brett-kavanaugh-review-sparked-4-500-tips-fbi/8057810002/
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Anonymous wrote: the loser Republicans on this thread are so predictable in their misogyny and simultaneous fear of the fact that she was a reliable witness.

And she’s not even the point of Brett Kavanaugh. The point is that he is unfit for the bench in temperament and in his total and complete lack of honor. The other point is that the GOP is corrupt and corrupts everything they touch. They are unfit.



Ahem I'm reading much from loser Dems on this thread.

We have a great SCOTUS in place.


+1
And it's Democrats who would love for SCOTUS to act as their own personal legislature.
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