Covid permanently harms immune system, repeat infections increase damage

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Anonymous wrote: Our family has been sick so much in the past few months. My son's out of school with a fever for 3 days every 3-4 weeks since school started. The doc just gave him some lab test looking for a dozen different illnesses/bacteria and he was found to have had "in the recent past" flu A, flu B, mono and 2 bacterial infections... ironically no covid. He's never tested positive for covid. My husband, daughter, granddaughter and myself have had cold after cold after cold. There's definitely something up with our immune systems. I am the only one that's tested positive for covid.

Immunity debt from so much forced lockdown and masking. Our immune systems are just dealing with all the viruses/infections we would normally have gotten over the past 3 years if we hadn't been isolated and masked up. It will stop soon.

The rest is just COVID hysteria (and I'm triple-boosted, so not an anti-vaxxer.)

And yet you are here making an anti-science argument!

This is not anti science!

Here we go again with the “Science” - science is turning into a religion at this point. Science allows for differing opinions and questioning. But this “science” you speak of doesn’t allow for that. Anyone speaking differently is labeled anti science. Sounds like a cult to me.

There is a cult for this! I can’t find the article, but the Atlantic just wrote a great article about this group of people calling themselves “The People’s CDC” or something. Basically they want to mask forever and keep screaming “follow the science” like some kind of crazed mantra.

Oops New Yorker. Here it is:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-activism/the-case-for-wearing-masks-forever/amp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Because at this point if you’re still wearing a mask then it means you need to likely wear one for the rest of your life.

It’s also obvious looking back that masking only did so much good. Covid spread like wildfire including in places where there was high mask usage. Anyone with common sense can figure out that the benefit isn’t there.

Also a lot of people were going along with the masking to be polite. Some of it was political. Now it’s been years and it’s a lot harder to go along with something so pointless. Not to mention people have traveled to other first world country where masking was stopped months (years?) ago.

[Anonymous]

I love how if someone posts something here about COVID problems the first reactions are to assume the point of the post is to freak out, that the person is an masking pusher, etc. Then there is the 'we can't do anything about it oh well' crew.

Are folks saying scientists shouldn't study COVID or other illnesses for long term impacts? We, as a society, should just shrug our shoulders when things like COVID come along and accept our fate?

The info OP posted has been on mainstream news. Is there an issue with acknowledging and discussing it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Because at this point if you’re still wearing a mask then it means you need to likely wear one for the rest of your life.

It’s also obvious looking back that masking only did so much good. Covid spread like wildfire including in places where there was high mask usage. Anyone with common sense can figure out that the benefit isn’t there.

Also a lot of people were going along with the masking to be polite. Some of it was political. Now it’s been years and it’s a lot harder to go along with something so pointless. Not to mention people have traveled to other first world country where masking was stopped months (years?) ago.

Gosh! I was so late in the game to start wearing a mask. I remember reading posts here like "my mask protects you, your mask protects me" and "just wear the mask" and "mask up". I hesitated to wear one because I felt uncomfortable and anxious in a mask and, at the same time, seeing only a third of people's faces triggered anxiety and a feeling of not being safe. Eventually, I had no choice here in MoCo, so mask up, I did. I was similarly hesitant and nervous about the vaccines, but I came around on those, too. About a month after my second booster, I got covid. Worse than a cold, not as bad as the flu, but definitely something I am not interested in experiencing again. Now I'm anxious if I don't have a mask on, especially because 90% of my neck of the woods no longer masks.

[Anonymous]

^^and, yes, I am being treated for my anxiety. See the part where I took 4 doses of a vaccine without long term studies backing it up. Sucks that I got sick so soon after the fourth one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how if someone posts something here about COVID problems the first reactions are to assume the point of the post is to freak out, that the person is an masking pusher, etc. Then there is the 'we can't do anything about it oh well' crew.

Are folks saying scientists shouldn't study COVID or other illnesses for long term impacts? We, as a society, should just shrug our shoulders when things like COVID come along and accept our fate?

The info OP posted has been on mainstream news. Is there an issue with acknowledging and discussing it?

People have lost their minds during the pandemic. And they haven't gotten them back yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.

But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.

[Anonymous]

I am still masking in supermarkets, concerts and so are many here in fla. I like not getting sick with anything, and I will continue to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.

But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.

Why isn't everyone like me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

It only feels "sudden" in the DC area because people kept wearing them for so long here. Go almost anywhere else in the country and masks fell away a while ago.

But yeah, if you're high risk, you need to keep up the social distancing, avoid crowded places like event venues, airplanes, Disney etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.

But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.

It's zero hardship for you. I find it incredibly uncomfortable. I find wearing a good mask limits my field of vision (which is important when you have a toddler in crowded places). It fogs up my glasses. Luckily I am past this stage but for many people it gives them horrible acne (which can cause permanent facial scars). Just saying since you are so confused why everyone (most people) do not act like you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.

But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.

Was there contact tracing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.

But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.

It's zero hardship for you. I find it incredibly uncomfortable. I find wearing a good mask limits my field of vision (which is important when you have a toddler in crowded places). It fogs up my glasses. Luckily I am past this stage but for many people it gives them horrible acne (which can cause permanent facial scars). Just saying since you are so confused why everyone (most people) do not act like you do.

+1, especially to fogged glasses. If I thought I needed to wear a mask to the Kennedy Center, I wouldn't go, and I didn't do things like that when they were required. The experience wouldn't be worth it if I had to wear a mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Because at this point if you’re still wearing a mask then it means you need to likely wear one for the rest of your life.

It’s also obvious looking back that masking only did so much good. Covid spread like wildfire including in places where there was high mask usage. Anyone with common sense can figure out that the benefit isn’t there.

Also a lot of people were going along with the masking to be polite. Some of it was political. Now it’s been years and it’s a lot harder to go along with something so pointless. Not to mention people have traveled to other first world country where masking was stopped months (years?) ago.

Gosh! I was so late in the game to start wearing a mask. I remember reading posts here like "my mask protects you, your mask protects me" and "just wear the mask" and "mask up". I hesitated to wear one because I felt uncomfortable and anxious in a mask and, at the same time, seeing only a third of people's faces triggered anxiety and a feeling of not being safe. Eventually, I had no choice here in MoCo, so mask up, I did. I was similarly hesitant and nervous about the vaccines, but I came around on those, too. About a month after my second booster, I got covid. Worse than a cold, not as bad as the flu, but definitely something I am not interested in experiencing again. Now I'm anxious if I don't have a mask on, especially because 90% of my neck of the woods no longer masks.

Come to Silver Spring/Takoma! It's like the opposite here, lots of masks. Even the toddlers at our daycare still wear them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What surprises me is how quickly people have turned against masks. I went to the Kennedy center recently and very few people were wearing masks. Sitting for 3 hours in a crowded poorly ventilated space during a surge, not speaking, not exercising — there’s almost no reason NOT to wear a mask. We were shocked so few people were wearing them. At this point, I’m not obsessive about the masks but I still wear them on crowds when it’s no real hardship to do so.

Why would you go to the Kennedy Center at all if you consider it so high risk? Masks only take you so far. People don't wear them because they hate wearing masks. Going to the Kennedy Center is totally optional, they are not going to pay to be uncomfortable for hours.

But that’s my points. I’m living life pretty much as I normally would and it’s so easy to throw on a mask when there’s no downside to me. Even if it gives me incremental benefit, the cost is almost nothing. Why not do it? Fwiw, I’ve been living normally for a while now, traveling, take metro nearly every day, etc. I did get covid once from my kid who was eating indoors in a crowded school cafeteria every day so that was largely unavoidable. I’m really surprised so many people view it as a hardship. I have asthma and it doesn’t bother me unless I’m exercising or walking hard. Just sitting in a theater or on metro, it’s zero hardship.

It's zero hardship for you. I find it incredibly uncomfortable. I find wearing a good mask limits my field of vision (which is important when you have a toddler in crowded places). It fogs up my glasses. Luckily I am past this stage but for many people it gives them horrible acne (which can cause permanent facial scars). Just saying since you are so confused why everyone (most people) do not act like you do.

+1, especially to fogged glasses. If I thought I needed to wear a mask to the Kennedy Center, I wouldn't go, and I didn't do things like that when they were required. The experience wouldn't be worth it if I had to wear a mask.

Right? Like some people will pretend it's our fault for wearing the wrong type of mask. But the fogging happens with the best N95 masks (I've tried different sizes) especially in certain types of weather.