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Anonymous wrote:Caitlynn is now at Education Week rather than Bethesda Beat, alas. She wrote a nice piece on how 'the status of the teaching profession is at its lowest in five decades, new research suggests, which its authors say is “cause for national concern.”'

How could anyone have predicted that 2 years of telling parents that school wasn’t essential and that anyone should be capable of teaching their kids in a couple hours before bed each day would have an impact on the prestige of the teaching profession? I’m shocked.

Obviously, that was always ridiculous, but now we’re left picking up the pieces. We need to attract new teachers, which means increasing *starting* pay. We also need teaching positons to have a better work-life balance by building in more prep time during the school day.

That’s not what happened at all but always amusing to see this. Your revisionist history along with the rest of the angry (and usually overly defensive parents) is just sad. The majority pity people like you. I’m sure this version makes you feel better though, so we can play along.

Eh I remember seeing some pretty petty posts on the MCEA Twitter feed (which have since been scrubbed). Then there was this sort of rhetoric from Randi Weingarten.

The whole "school is not child care" line was a big F U to parents whose livelihoods and careers were at risk. It's also a pretty offensive (and I'd argue racist line, since you know they are contrasting themselves with child care teachers who are largely women of color while the teaching profession has been persistently White after teachers of color were shut out of public school teaching jobs after Brown v Board of Education), as well as untrue (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/opinion/coronavirus-schools-child-care-centers.html ). To suggest that teachers' unions didn't contribute at all to the low public perception of their profession is just ridiculous.

I say this as someone who put my grudge to the side and voted for every single Apple Ballot candidate for school board (not because they were on the Apple Ballot but because they were the most qualified candidates).

I see nothing wrong with Randi Weingarten's rhetoric there. Your comments seem like a non sequitur.

The biggest issue is the term "babysitters". The implication which is abundantly clear (and even more clear in the "SCHOOL IS NOT CHILD CARE" shrieking early in the pandemic) is that Weingarten wants to make crystal clear that teachers for school-age children are a higher life form than child care teachers that provide care for young children, and for older children during the summer and after school. A babysitter is a person who watches one or two children for a couple of hours during date night. To equate child care teachers with "babysitters" is so unbelievably offensive and I can't believe it was so widely accepted

But the other issue is just the complete denial that virtual school was a massive burden for parents. Was it the right thing to do, especially at first? Yes. But it was really hard for a lot of parents and Weingarten acts like this is some sort of "gotcha". It is not a respectful way to advocate for the teaching profession.

Having kids is a huge burden but you choose to have them. Most of the parents complaining are richer parents who could afford child care but prefered to spend their money on other things. Babysitters spend all day with kids.... summers, before school aged, after school....

Those are called nannies. Ad public school is not "free", everyone pays for it.

No, they are called either one. And, you need a back up plan.

You can screech "Back up plan!" all you want, that does not change a single thing except remind everyone how incredibly ridiculous your ilk are.

Nope. Your “ilk” are the ones who are ridiculous. You need a backup plan.

P.S. This can happen again. Yes, it can and yes, it will (whether it happens while we all still have young children is a coin flip). Plan accordingly.

I mean I have a flexible WFH job with extensive amounts of leave built up so too bad so sad I am not going to suffer they way you clearly hope I will. I don't doubt there will be another pandemic at some point, but policymakers will not be bowing to the psychotic teachers unions so easily next time.

It doesn’t matter what the unions do or don’t “bow to.” No one is forcing teachers back into classrooms in a pandemic without a vaccine. They did not enlist in the military. So it would behoove you to have a plan for YOUR kids,

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Anonymous wrote:Caitlynn is now at Education Week rather than Bethesda Beat, alas. She wrote a nice piece on how 'the status of the teaching profession is at its lowest in five decades, new research suggests, which its authors say is “cause for national concern.”'

How could anyone have predicted that 2 years of telling parents that school wasn’t essential and that anyone should be capable of teaching their kids in a couple hours before bed each day would have an impact on the prestige of the teaching profession? I’m shocked.

Obviously, that was always ridiculous, but now we’re left picking up the pieces. We need to attract new teachers, which means increasing *starting* pay. We also need teaching positons to have a better work-life balance by building in more prep time during the school day.

That’s not what happened at all but always amusing to see this. Your revisionist history along with the rest of the angry (and usually overly defensive parents) is just sad. The majority pity people like you. I’m sure this version makes you feel better though, so we can play along.

Eh I remember seeing some pretty petty posts on the MCEA Twitter feed (which have since been scrubbed). Then there was this sort of rhetoric from Randi Weingarten.

The whole "school is not child care" line was a big F U to parents whose livelihoods and careers were at risk. It's also a pretty offensive (and I'd argue racist line, since you know they are contrasting themselves with child care teachers who are largely women of color while the teaching profession has been persistently White after teachers of color were shut out of public school teaching jobs after Brown v Board of Education), as well as untrue (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/opinion/coronavirus-schools-child-care-centers.html ). To suggest that teachers' unions didn't contribute at all to the low public perception of their profession is just ridiculous.

I say this as someone who put my grudge to the side and voted for every single Apple Ballot candidate for school board (not because they were on the Apple Ballot but because they were the most qualified candidates).

I see nothing wrong with Randi Weingarten's rhetoric there. Your comments seem like a non sequitur.

The biggest issue is the term "babysitters". The implication which is abundantly clear (and even more clear in the "SCHOOL IS NOT CHILD CARE" shrieking early in the pandemic) is that Weingarten wants to make crystal clear that teachers for school-age children are a higher life form than child care teachers that provide care for young children, and for older children during the summer and after school. A babysitter is a person who watches one or two children for a couple of hours during date night. To equate child care teachers with "babysitters" is so unbelievably offensive and I can't believe it was so widely accepted

But the other issue is just the complete denial that virtual school was a massive burden for parents. Was it the right thing to do, especially at first? Yes. But it was really hard for a lot of parents and Weingarten acts like this is some sort of "gotcha". It is not a respectful way to advocate for the teaching profession.

Having kids is a huge burden but you choose to have them. Most of the parents complaining are richer parents who could afford child care but prefered to spend their money on other things. Babysitters spend all day with kids.... summers, before school aged, after school....

Those are called nannies. Ad public school is not "free", everyone pays for it.

No, they are called either one. And, you need a back up plan.

You can screech "Back up plan!" all you want, that does not change a single thing except remind everyone how incredibly ridiculous your ilk are.

Nope. Your “ilk” are the ones who are ridiculous. You need a backup plan.

P.S. This can happen again. Yes, it can and yes, it will (whether it happens while we all still have young children is a coin flip). Plan accordingly.

Careful what you wish for. How much support do you think would remain for public schools if everyone agreed with you that it is unreasonable to expect schools to stay open?

+1 these people can't get it through their thick skulls that public school is not free, people pay for it and they will use the democratic process to pay less of they aren't getting the same benefit

Lol-man, you people are truly moronic. The only people that will suffer if public schools shut down are kids. You act like teachers are relying on this profession. Nah, most are leaving willingly. It will only continue (due in part to people like you)

Right. Poorer, darker-skinned kids in particular, since the others will be in private schools.

So to review y'all are rooting for schools to shut down again so BIPOC kids can get harmed even more? I thought virtual was fine, if it wasn't it was the parents' fault and BIPOC kids benefited the most from it, according to you.

The school closure crowd— including the teachers' unions— never cared about anyone or anything beyond their own anxiety.

Better than the Open Er Up At All Costs crowd, who tried desperately use poor and/or POC kids (who they never cared about then, before or since) as wedges to jam their own privileged kids back into school buildings, while the low SES families were in reality overwhelmingly pro-virtual, since they were seeing the sickness and death from which the rich WFH families were insulated (and yes, the rich people all claimed to be “on the front lines” in person, but they’re liars).

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Anonymous wrote:Caitlynn is now at Education Week rather than Bethesda Beat, alas. She wrote a nice piece on how 'the status of the teaching profession is at its lowest in five decades, new research suggests, which its authors say is “cause for national concern.”'

How could anyone have predicted that 2 years of telling parents that school wasn’t essential and that anyone should be capable of teaching their kids in a couple hours before bed each day would have an impact on the prestige of the teaching profession? I’m shocked.

Obviously, that was always ridiculous, but now we’re left picking up the pieces. We need to attract new teachers, which means increasing *starting* pay. We also need teaching positons to have a better work-life balance by building in more prep time during the school day.

Who could have predicted that nearly three years of vitriol from nasty, selfish, entitled parents about what horrible, dreadful, “selfish”people teachers were (while in the next breath repeatedly demanding to be allowed to put their kids back into the daily care of, and responsibility for, the same terrible, dreadful, “selfish” teachers NOW NOW NOW) would have an effect on teachers not wanting to put up with the BS anymore? I’m shocked.

And good luck finding hundreds of thousands of willing young teachers eager to sign up under these conditions even for more money.

How horrible it was to expect people to do their jobs.

Maybe to ultimately got what we paid for. Once you get past the early years, teachers get paid fairly well for a 10-month public sector job with good benefits, but I certainly understand some positions ultimately demand unreasonably long hours. Quality was bound to suffer. The problem is, people aren’t going to be willing to spend more on teachers (either in terms of pay increases or hiring more to reduce workloads) without good reason to think quality will improve. The temper tantrum teachers unions threw doesn’t bode well for that. So I really don't know how we'll get out of the mess we're in.

They did their jobs. The terms of their jobs were set by their employers, not you. Next!

And next time those school boards will know better, having discovered how hard it is to get teachers to reopen schools after closing them.

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Anonymous wrote:Caitlynn is now at Education Week rather than Bethesda Beat, alas. She wrote a nice piece on how 'the status of the teaching profession is at its lowest in five decades, new research suggests, which its authors say is “cause for national concern.”'

How could anyone have predicted that 2 years of telling parents that school wasn’t essential and that anyone should be capable of teaching their kids in a couple hours before bed each day would have an impact on the prestige of the teaching profession? I’m shocked.

Obviously, that was always ridiculous, but now we’re left picking up the pieces. We need to attract new teachers, which means increasing *starting* pay. We also need teaching positons to have a better work-life balance by building in more prep time during the school day.

That’s not what happened at all but always amusing to see this. Your revisionist history along with the rest of the angry (and usually overly defensive parents) is just sad. The majority pity people like you. I’m sure this version makes you feel better though, so we can play along.

Eh I remember seeing some pretty petty posts on the MCEA Twitter feed (which have since been scrubbed). Then there was this sort of rhetoric from Randi Weingarten.

The whole "school is not child care" line was a big F U to parents whose livelihoods and careers were at risk. It's also a pretty offensive (and I'd argue racist line, since you know they are contrasting themselves with child care teachers who are largely women of color while the teaching profession has been persistently White after teachers of color were shut out of public school teaching jobs after Brown v Board of Education), as well as untrue (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/opinion/coronavirus-schools-child-care-centers.html ). To suggest that teachers' unions didn't contribute at all to the low public perception of their profession is just ridiculous.

I say this as someone who put my grudge to the side and voted for every single Apple Ballot candidate for school board (not because they were on the Apple Ballot but because they were the most qualified candidates).

I see nothing wrong with Randi Weingarten's rhetoric there. Your comments seem like a non sequitur.

The biggest issue is the term "babysitters". The implication which is abundantly clear (and even more clear in the "SCHOOL IS NOT CHILD CARE" shrieking early in the pandemic) is that Weingarten wants to make crystal clear that teachers for school-age children are a higher life form than child care teachers that provide care for young children, and for older children during the summer and after school. A babysitter is a person who watches one or two children for a couple of hours during date night. To equate child care teachers with "babysitters" is so unbelievably offensive and I can't believe it was so widely accepted

But the other issue is just the complete denial that virtual school was a massive burden for parents. Was it the right thing to do, especially at first? Yes. But it was really hard for a lot of parents and Weingarten acts like this is some sort of "gotcha". It is not a respectful way to advocate for the teaching profession.

Having kids is a huge burden but you choose to have them. Most of the parents complaining are richer parents who could afford child care but prefered to spend their money on other things. Babysitters spend all day with kids.... summers, before school aged, after school....

Those are called nannies. Ad public school is not "free", everyone pays for it.

No, they are called either one. And, you need a back up plan.

You can screech "Back up plan!" all you want, that does not change a single thing except remind everyone how incredibly ridiculous your ilk are.

Nope. Your “ilk” are the ones who are ridiculous. You need a backup plan.

P.S. This can happen again. Yes, it can and yes, it will (whether it happens while we all still have young children is a coin flip). Plan accordingly.

I mean I have a flexible WFH job with extensive amounts of leave built up so too bad so sad I am not going to suffer they way you clearly hope I will. I don't doubt there will be another pandemic at some point, but policymakers will not be bowing to the psychotic teachers unions so easily next time.

It doesn’t matter what the unions do or don’t “bow to.” No one is forcing teachers back into classrooms in a pandemic without a vaccine. They did not enlist in the military. So it would behoove you to have a plan for YOUR kids,

Funny- I don’t recall health care workers, service industry employees, manufacturers, etc., “enlisting” in the military to get them to show up for work.

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Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

Schools have been open for two years. Move. On. Focus on the problems now. “Unless they change their behavior…” *massive eye roll* Maybe parents should start to realize they have to actually raise their own children and do their part. You won’t be able to blame the pandemic and school closures forever (but we can see you’re hellbent on clinging to it rather than looking in the mirror)

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

Schools have been open for two years. Move. On. Focus on the problems now. “Unless they change their behavior…” *massive eye roll* Maybe parents should start to realize they have to actually raise their own children and do their part. You won’t be able to blame the pandemic and school closures forever (but we can see you’re hellbent on clinging to it rather than looking in the mirror)

DP. To focus on the problems now, we need to acknowledge that there are major problems. Do you acknowledge that? There are gaps at all levels still to be addressed. Schools have been open for two years, and these gaps are still not addressed. The expert educators assured parents that any deficiencies caused by pandemic mitigation measure measures could be corrected easily, but that has not happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

Bad news you don’t get to make those decisions. Teachers are leaving bc of people like you, so maybe it’s someone else’s behavior that needs changing?

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Anonymous wrote:Caitlynn is now at Education Week rather than Bethesda Beat, alas. She wrote a nice piece on how 'the status of the teaching profession is at its lowest in five decades, new research suggests, which its authors say is “cause for national concern.”'

How could anyone have predicted that 2 years of telling parents that school wasn’t essential and that anyone should be capable of teaching their kids in a couple hours before bed each day would have an impact on the prestige of the teaching profession? I’m shocked.

Obviously, that was always ridiculous, but now we’re left picking up the pieces. We need to attract new teachers, which means increasing *starting* pay. We also need teaching positons to have a better work-life balance by building in more prep time during the school day.

That’s not what happened at all but always amusing to see this. Your revisionist history along with the rest of the angry (and usually overly defensive parents) is just sad. The majority pity people like you. I’m sure this version makes you feel better though, so we can play along.

Eh I remember seeing some pretty petty posts on the MCEA Twitter feed (which have since been scrubbed). Then there was this sort of rhetoric from Randi Weingarten.

The whole "school is not child care" line was a big F U to parents whose livelihoods and careers were at risk. It's also a pretty offensive (and I'd argue racist line, since you know they are contrasting themselves with child care teachers who are largely women of color while the teaching profession has been persistently White after teachers of color were shut out of public school teaching jobs after Brown v Board of Education), as well as untrue (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/opinion/coronavirus-schools-child-care-centers.html ). To suggest that teachers' unions didn't contribute at all to the low public perception of their profession is just ridiculous.

I say this as someone who put my grudge to the side and voted for every single Apple Ballot candidate for school board (not because they were on the Apple Ballot but because they were the most qualified candidates).

I see nothing wrong with Randi Weingarten's rhetoric there. Your comments seem like a non sequitur.

The biggest issue is the term "babysitters". The implication which is abundantly clear (and even more clear in the "SCHOOL IS NOT CHILD CARE" shrieking early in the pandemic) is that Weingarten wants to make crystal clear that teachers for school-age children are a higher life form than child care teachers that provide care for young children, and for older children during the summer and after school. A babysitter is a person who watches one or two children for a couple of hours during date night. To equate child care teachers with "babysitters" is so unbelievably offensive and I can't believe it was so widely accepted

But the other issue is just the complete denial that virtual school was a massive burden for parents. Was it the right thing to do, especially at first? Yes. But it was really hard for a lot of parents and Weingarten acts like this is some sort of "gotcha". It is not a respectful way to advocate for the teaching profession.

Having kids is a huge burden but you choose to have them. Most of the parents complaining are richer parents who could afford child care but prefered to spend their money on other things. Babysitters spend all day with kids.... summers, before school aged, after school....

Those are called nannies. Ad public school is not "free", everyone pays for it.

No, they are called either one. And, you need a back up plan.

You can screech "Back up plan!" all you want, that does not change a single thing except remind everyone how incredibly ridiculous your ilk are.

Nope. Your “ilk” are the ones who are ridiculous. You need a backup plan.

P.S. This can happen again. Yes, it can and yes, it will (whether it happens while we all still have young children is a coin flip). Plan accordingly.

I mean I have a flexible WFH job with extensive amounts of leave built up so too bad so sad I am not going to suffer they way you clearly hope I will. I don't doubt there will be another pandemic at some point, but policymakers will not be bowing to the psychotic teachers unions so easily next time.

It doesn’t matter what the unions do or don’t “bow to.” No one is forcing teachers back into classrooms in a pandemic without a vaccine. They did not enlist in the military. So it would behoove you to have a plan for YOUR kids,

You are delusional. Why do you keep shouting at me to have a plan? I already told you I do. Is that all you have?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

Bad news you don’t get to make those decisions. Teachers are leaving bc of people like you, so maybe it’s someone else’s behavior that needs changing?

lol no teachers are not leaving because of people posting on DCUM or other social media. I work in a profession that people bash constantly. Sometimes, I have to deal with unpleasant people during the course of my work (I'm not talking about while I'm scrolling the internet). I DGAF. My overall working conditions, compensation and boss are all great.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

Bad news you don’t get to make those decisions. Teachers are leaving bc of people like you, so maybe it’s someone else’s behavior that needs changing?

lol no teachers are not leaving because of people posting on DCUM or other social media. I work in a profession that people bash constantly. Sometimes, I have to deal with unpleasant people during the course of my work (I'm not talking about while I'm scrolling the internet). I DGAF. My overall working conditions, compensation and boss are all great.

Right, and those things are not all great for teachers. Which is why we are saying we need better. When people like you tell us we don't deserve better, that is an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

Schools have been open for two years. Move. On. Focus on the problems now. “Unless they change their behavior…” *massive eye roll* Maybe parents should start to realize they have to actually raise their own children and do their part. You won’t be able to blame the pandemic and school closures forever (but we can see you’re hellbent on clinging to it rather than looking in the mirror)

The demeanor and level of rationality that you'd expect from a VA mom. Your level of disdain for kids and their parents is clear.

Here's the thing, though: those parents are taxpayers and voters. You're not going to get more money for teachers without them. To do that, you're going to need to show value. Telling them that schools and teachers aren't responsible for anything isn't going to help you with that.

Maybe you don't care about failing schools because your kids don't go to school. But you should. VA will be one of the first things they cut when the COVID recovery funds run out.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid closures are over, we have lost hundreds of thousands of teachers across the nation (from burnout, from covid and I'm sure from other things) can we move along please? Education is in crisis mode, with not enough teachers to teach our children, especially in special ed.

So instead of whining about school closures in the past, can we please move forward and figure out how to solve this problem?

They’re linked, though. The reality is that any plausible solution includes a need for more funding. The public is not going to agree to more funding for teachers until and unless they change their behavior. That goes beyond simply agreeing that is essential to keep schools open. It also includes things like pay reform, such as performance-based pay and different pay scales for particularly hard-to-fill positions (e.g., special education and STEM), both of which the unions have fought against.

Bad news you don’t get to make those decisions. Teachers are leaving bc of people like you, so maybe it’s someone else’s behavior that needs changing?

lol no teachers are not leaving because of people posting on DCUM or other social media. I work in a profession that people bash constantly. Sometimes, I have to deal with unpleasant people during the course of my work (I'm not talking about while I'm scrolling the internet). I DGAF. My overall working conditions, compensation and boss are all great.

Right, and those things are not all great for teachers. Which is why we are saying we need better. When people like you tell us we don't deserve better, that is an issue.

Don't be ridiculous. It doesn't matter what people on DCUM say. I don't know if you've noticed, but DCUM posters are not representative of this county. If we were representative our school board-elect would look completely different. What matters are your working conditions, compensation and bosses. Parents certainly impact working conditions, but not because of our posts on DCUM (if you consider scrolling DCUM part of your work, then that's a whole different issue). Montgomery County voters have almost always voted for the school board (and the council) that the union wants, which means parents are not the ones stopping you from getting better compensation or bosses.