Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all you’re complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

You should be careful what you wish for. I'm a substitute. I have a degree in the field I teach and have a VA teaching certificate, but chances are your kid would probably not end up with a sub like me. Teachers do leave in the middle of the year, all the time. It is usually horrible for the kids, except in the rare case where other teachers take on the responsibility of planning for that class or a really competent substitute steps in. In high school, it's unlikely the substitute will have a background in the class they are teaching. I took over a class once from another substitute that had been sitting there all day watching netflix on his phone, because he said he didn't know the content so what was he expected to do.

How are you going to fill in the gaps? Do you know the content? Maybe your kids are just in elementary, but for high school plan on quitting your job and making it a full time priority or hiring a tutor.

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Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all you’re complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

You should be careful what you wish for. I'm a substitute. I have a degree in the field I teach and have a VA teaching certificate, but chances are your kid would probably not end up with a sub like me. Teachers do leave in the middle of the year, all the time. It is usually horrible for the kids, except in the rare case where other teachers take on the responsibility of planning for that class or a really competent substitute steps in. In high school, it's unlikely the substitute will have a background in the class they are teaching. I took over a class once from another substitute that had been sitting there all day watching netflix on his phone, because he said he didn't know the content so what was he expected to do.

How are you going to fill in the gaps? Do you know the content? Maybe your kids are just in elementary, but for high school plan on quitting your job and making it a full time priority or hiring a tutor.

DP. No, they don't, or at least, they didn't pre-pandemic. It was usually quite rare.

[Anonymous]

PP here. I'd like to add that I got a license with the plan to switch to teaching, but no longer plan to do anything other than taking on a long term job here and there. At least, then I can focus on the kids, lesson planning, feedback, and avoid the time wasted in meetings or have to go to training sessions for the latest change in grading policy, ect... There is no work-life balance for teachers in FCPS. I feel sorry for the teachers at my kids' school because they have to go to training sessions during the summer for a change in the grading policy that looks like it is only being implemented for purposes of grade inflation to make the school administration look better. It's super complicated, stupid and gives kids an incentive to slack off. I would quit if I was teaching at that school.

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Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all you’re complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

You should be careful what you wish for. I'm a substitute. I have a degree in the field I teach and have a VA teaching certificate, but chances are your kid would probably not end up with a sub like me. Teachers do leave in the middle of the year, all the time. It is usually horrible for the kids, except in the rare case where other teachers take on the responsibility of planning for that class or a really competent substitute steps in. In high school, it's unlikely the substitute will have a background in the class they are teaching. I took over a class once from another substitute that had been sitting there all day watching netflix on his phone, because he said he didn't know the content so what was he expected to do.

How are you going to fill in the gaps? Do you know the content? Maybe your kids are just in elementary, but for high school plan on quitting your job and making it a full time priority or hiring a tutor.

DP. No, they don't, or at least, they didn't pre-pandemic. It was usually quite rare.

Yes it is rare.

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Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all you’re complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

You should be careful what you wish for. I'm a substitute. I have a degree in the field I teach and have a VA teaching certificate, but chances are your kid would probably not end up with a sub like me. Teachers do leave in the middle of the year, all the time. It is usually horrible for the kids, except in the rare case where other teachers take on the responsibility of planning for that class or a really competent substitute steps in. In high school, it's unlikely the substitute will have a background in the class they are teaching. I took over a class once from another substitute that had been sitting there all day watching netflix on his phone, because he said he didn't know the content so what was he expected to do.

How are you going to fill in the gaps? Do you know the content? Maybe your kids are just in elementary, but for high school plan on quitting your job and making it a full time priority or hiring a tutor.

DP. No, they don't, or at least, they didn't pre-pandemic. It was usually quite rare.

Are you kidding? I was working in these situations pre-pandemic. Every school has multiple teachers leave in the middle of the year, usually due to pregnancy or illness. There is also the situation of the teacher that takes medical leave and doesn't communicate again until the leave runs out. Sometimes a teacher just does this once. But there are also serial offenders - it can happen multiple times before an administration is able to make the case to get rid of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, more planning time but also smaller classes would solve nearly everything. If I had 100 assessments to grade instead of 150 (20 kids per class vs 30) I could give meaningful feedback, target specific kids, have space in my classroom to separate behavior issues, communicate with families, and make good resources.

+1 one of the problems with planning time is that it is eaten up with endless ridiculous meetings that go nowhere. Eliminate the meetings and leave the teachers alone!

[Anonymous]

ok - maybe this just happens at the schools I've worked at and rare everywhere else....

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Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all you’re complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

You should be careful what you wish for. I'm a substitute. I have a degree in the field I teach and have a VA teaching certificate, but chances are your kid would probably not end up with a sub like me. Teachers do leave in the middle of the year, all the time. It is usually horrible for the kids, except in the rare case where other teachers take on the responsibility of planning for that class or a really competent substitute steps in. In high school, it's unlikely the substitute will have a background in the class they are teaching. I took over a class once from another substitute that had been sitting there all day watching netflix on his phone, because he said he didn't know the content so what was he expected to do.

How are you going to fill in the gaps? Do you know the content? Maybe your kids are just in elementary, but for high school plan on quitting your job and making it a full time priority or hiring a tutor.

DP. No, they don't, or at least, they didn't pre-pandemic. It was usually quite rare.

How do you define rare? In our elementary school of ~750 kids we have had maybe 6 teachers quit mid-year last year and the year before, and maybe 10 or 11 quit a few months into virtual learning. That’s nothing compared to the regular turnover at the school (we now only have a handful of teachers who were at our school pre-pandemic), but it does seem like a lot for quitting mid-year.

To be fair, our principal sucks.

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^ should have mentioned im a different poster.

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Anonymous wrote:Luther Jackson middle school holds kids on the bus until 7:10 then sends them directly to classrooms. Teachers are required to be in their classrooms by 7:10 to receive them.

So no, the teacher is not necessarily exaggerating. It’s one reason I left the school—being there by 7:10 and supervising students at 7:10 are very different. Now I can get 15 minutes of copies/grades/etc done from 7:10-7:25, which is super helpful in allowing me to get my own child on time after school.

Teachers are required to receive students immediately, as soon as the door open at 7:10, at many FCPS middle schools. So it definitely is entirely feasible that in many schools, teachers are supervising students as early as 7:10.

The bottom line is teachers are leaving and with everything going on in schools and the lack of support we are going to see the shortage get worse. Parents can deny it all they want.

Your bosses can deny it all they want. They refuse to address school safety.

They did address school safety by removing SROs.
They did address discipline by following the guidelines set by the DOE Civil Rights Division. Schools can and will be penalized if these guidelines aren’t followed to the letter.
They did address learning loss and declining test scores by a collective lowering of standards and expectations.

/s

They are trying to close the achievement gap from the top down. I am serious.

- NYC completely eliminated their AAP program.
- Virginia tried to eliminate higher math in HS through their VMPI (then they lied about it).
- Fairfax County is trying to eliminate AAP centers, and the AAP program through "E3 Math" or E-Cubed. The pilot program is just a forerunner to county-wide adoption.

[Anonymous]

In my twenty years in education I've know two teachers who left mid-year for health and family issues. This year in a neighboring school though, 3 teachers and 4 assistants walked out, and they all seem to have quit rather than take medical leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ok - maybe this just happens at the schools I've worked at and rare everywhere else....

I think people are conflating people just up and leaving with leaving for maternity/medical/FMLA reasons. Prior to the last couple years, the former wasn’t unheard of but also wasn’t common; the latter has always happened.

Anyway, congrats to the subject of this thread. I hope her kid is healthy and she gets to quit entirely and not have to deal with this crazy parent again.

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

DP. I'm a sub and feel exactly the same way. I honesty don't know how teachers do it. I think the very worst of it is that there is no discipline for kids who are behavioral issues. Admin will do *nothing* to help. All they do is bray about the "responsive classroom" BS.

I’m a teacher and last week a kid said “school is draining, how do you stand it.” LMAO.

Real life is going to bite that kid in the behind.

DP. Nope. School is much worse than when we were there, and much worse than Real Life. It shouldn't be, but it is.

School has become a circus thanks to parents and their out of control children. I know many who are leaving-none of it is worth the stress

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

Then leave. I'm serious. Not because we want qualified teachers to leave but, damn, all you’re complaining. And tbh, the only ones suffering from all your little protest actions are the kids. I'd rather know you're not there, and then I can properly fill those gaps in learning, rather than assume you're doing it.

Ok- will do!

me too!

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You teachers are sick if you're “not allowed” to use a toilet when you need to.

Not only are your administrators and school board doing nothing about this serious issue, but what about your good-for-nothing teachers’ union? What are they doing about this?

Buck up and demand some minimal human rights like going pee in a bathroom. Having to wear depends to pee is the most asinine thing I’ve heard.

Simple Solution:
You text the front office to have someone come sit with your students (asap) for a few minutes. What’s the big deal?

Spoken like someone who has no clue.

The main office staff isn’t sitting around twiddling thumbs. Everyone is busy. All the time. There aren’t enough adults in a school, and that’s a problem that will only get worse as teachers continue to quit.

Just had a sub at school tell a couple of us she could not do it every day-said she only take a couple of jobs a week because she needs a break on the other days. It's not good in schools.

It is so, so easy to look into the teaching world and find solutions. It’s a lot harder to actually be IN it. A teacher is responsible for far too much at every given moment of the day. We really are expected to do it all… all the time. And many of us do.

Many of us are also sick of it. I long for my old office job in college. I could eat when I wanted, pee when I wanted, sit alone if I wanted privacy, and I could actually get work done at work.

Hahahahhaha text the main office. Good lord, these people really do think they have all the answers don’t they?

DCUM parents offering up all these BS “solutions” and opinions should have to come sub for a week, not that they’d make it past day 1.

+1,000

Agree. I'm a sub and barely made it one week. Hats off to teachers who are able to keep their sanity AND actually teach.

Just had a sub tell some of us at school she's not sure how we survive a whole week. Said she spreads jobs out because it feels like too much to do a whole week in a school. Thats where we are in education...it's too much for most people. Teachers are leaving.

DP. I'm a sub and feel exactly the same way. I honesty don't know how teachers do it. I think the very worst of it is that there is no discipline for kids who are behavioral issues. Admin will do *nothing* to help. All they do is bray about the "responsive classroom" BS.

I’m a teacher and last week a kid said “school is draining, how do you stand it.” LMAO.

Real life is going to bite that kid in the behind.

DP. Nope. School is much worse than when we were there, and much worse than Real Life. It shouldn't be, but it is.

School has become a circus thanks to parents and their out of control children. I know many who are leaving-none of it is worth the stress

I don't think this is totally it. It's EVERYBODY pointing to teachers to solve all the problems in the education system and even the country.