FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please. The only grey KAA areas are the original sale of the roperty zoned for a school next to Carson MS.

KAA as a base school removes potential inflow to Herndon HS and opens up capacity at Soutth Lakes. So who doesn't want to get moved to Herndon and South Lakes? Who would want to disrupt the flow out of Herndon to South Lakes? All BRAC members and citizen group reps plus advisory committee individuals live somewhere.

This post is incomprehensible. There are lots of unanswered questions still pending.

+1. She is the one that believes everything ties back to Langley. It’s her personal Illuminati/QAnon theory.

Thanks ladies and gentlemen. Everything does not tie back to Langley boundaries. Note the pending KAA purchase has elicited comments from this new organization that started after the GFCA "palace coup" https://citizensforgreatfalls.org/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=354666&item_id=119745

Herndon and Langley were excluded from the 2008 South Lakes boundary process which impacted Oakton, Westfield, Madison, and Chantilly. KAA as a magnet has no impact on base school boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:A Humanities magnet or any other magnet is not something you do when the budget looks so tight. It doesn’t save any money.

KAA is placed precisely where a new HS has been proposed for decades. It can solve many issues in the western part of the county. Its cost is far less that a new school or even an expansion of an existing school would cost. Plus, it saves time - it’s here- no need to expand other schools in the area, no need to acquire land and build. Time also saves money- especially with inflation.

Will it be a perfect solution? Of course not, so that means there will be plenty of things to pick at and try to derail it - if one so chooses. So, we do not have to worry about not having anything to discuss.

So the budget is tight enough that we can’t afford a magnet but not tight enough that we can’t rush into a surprise $150 million new school?

Seems pretty inconsistent if you ask me.

No. Not inconsistent. A magnet is a luxury. A school for local students is a basic need.

🤣🤣🤣. You and the rest of us have a very different definition of “basic need.”

We get you have to try to make a distinction, but that is a sttrrrreeeeeettttcchh.

Disagree. Public schools are basic needs. New Western HS has been expected and planned for over a decade.

Oh good point. I totally forgot that those kids haven’t had a public school up until this point. 🤣

You’re flailing.

The area is broken into four different schools.
1. One (the closest one for most of the area) is deemed by FCPS to be overcrowded and, therefore, they have sent nearby students to a school that is 10-13 miles away.
2. They plan to take additional students out of that school and add them to the long bus trip.
3. Another group is sent to a school that is separated from the rest of the school community by Dulles Airport, industrial and commercial facilities. This divides the school community in a way that is difficult to form a cohesive group.
4. This school mentioned at #3 is full and new construction is underway in areas near the high school and in an area in the Carson area. Very soon, there would be another overcrowded school.
5. School #4 has some students assigned to Carson. In this case, it is a reasonable distance for most of the students who attend and is not divided from others. At this point it is not overcrowded, but there is construction in that school area, as well.

Outside of the KAA area is a school that is set for a very expensive expansion. It shares a boundary with #1 and #3.

If overcrowding and proximity do not indicate a need for a school, please tell me (and FCPS) how to fix it.

Why aren't you identifying these schools by name? Are you afraid to state clearly that your position is that Westfield currently lacks a "cohesive group"? And, if so, is that because those on one side of Dulles want to separate themselves from those on the other side of Dulles? Or you want to avoid a discussion as to who else is going to attend Westfield if all the kids on one side are redistricted to a school at the KAA site? And if all the growth you claim is happening in the Westfield area materializes, why shouldn't they use some of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon first?

For years now, FCPS has been planning to expanding Centreville to 3000. That's very big, and maybe they will scale back that expansion if KAA opens, but if they were prepared to expand Centreville to 3000 they certainly could have expanded Chantilly's permanent capacity to 2750, which would help with overcrowding there, especially given FCPS's own projections that enrollment at Chantilly will decline by almost 300 students over the next five years.

I am from the other side of the county.

I recently made a couple of trips to and from Dulles.

As a taxpayer, finding a way to use Dulles (the toll road and 28) as a dividing line between high school zones makes complete sense and sounds like a hood use of taxpayer funds and a responsible reason for rezoning.

Why on earth would anyone be against that?

Spend $150 million to make the Dulles toll road a dividing line? Man, you ladies continue to grasp for any straw you can find. Why on earth would you think that makes any logical sense?

Frankly, at this point anyone who wants this to be a neighborhood school should be continuously pestering the school board to release plans. This stuff festers because the school board had been silent for over a month on the topic.

No kid should be crossing a major thoroughfare (dulles toll road, mixing bowl, beltway, 395, etc) to go to school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A Humanities magnet or any other magnet is not something you do when the budget looks so tight. It doesn’t save any money.

KAA is placed precisely where a new HS has been proposed for decades. It can solve many issues in the western part of the county. Its cost is far less that a new school or even an expansion of an existing school would cost. Plus, it saves time - it’s here- no need to expand other schools in the area, no need to acquire land and build. Time also saves money- especially with inflation.

Will it be a perfect solution? Of course not, so that means there will be plenty of things to pick at and try to derail it - if one so chooses. So, we do not have to worry about not having anything to discuss.

So the budget is tight enough that we can’t afford a magnet but not tight enough that we can’t rush into a surprise $150 million new school?

Seems pretty inconsistent if you ask me.

No. Not inconsistent. A magnet is a luxury. A school for local students is a basic need.

🤣🤣🤣. You and the rest of us have a very different definition of “basic need.”

We get you have to try to make a distinction, but that is a sttrrrreeeeeettttcchh.

Disagree. Public schools are basic needs. New Western HS has been expected and planned for over a decade.

Oh good point. I totally forgot that those kids haven’t had a public school up until this point. 🤣

You’re flailing.

The area is broken into four different schools.
1. One (the closest one for most of the area) is deemed by FCPS to be overcrowded and, therefore, they have sent nearby students to a school that is 10-13 miles away.
2. They plan to take additional students out of that school and add them to the long bus trip.
3. Another group is sent to a school that is separated from the rest of the school community by Dulles Airport, industrial and commercial facilities. This divides the school community in a way that is difficult to form a cohesive group.
4. This school mentioned at #3 is full and new construction is underway in areas near the high school and in an area in the Carson area. Very soon, there would be another overcrowded school.
5. School #4 has some students assigned to Carson. In this case, it is a reasonable distance for most of the students who attend and is not divided from others. At this point it is not overcrowded, but there is construction in that school area, as well.

Outside of the KAA area is a school that is set for a very expensive expansion. It shares a boundary with #1 and #3.

If overcrowding and proximity do not indicate a need for a school, please tell me (and FCPS) how to fix it.

Why aren't you identifying these schools by name? Are you afraid to state clearly that your position is that Westfield currently lacks a "cohesive group"? And, if so, is that because those on one side of Dulles want to separate themselves from those on the other side of Dulles? Or you want to avoid a discussion as to who else is going to attend Westfield if all the kids on one side are redistricted to a school at the KAA site? And if all the growth you claim is happening in the Westfield area materializes, why shouldn't they use some of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon first?

For years now, FCPS has been planning to expanding Centreville to 3000. That's very big, and maybe they will scale back that expansion if KAA opens, but if they were prepared to expand Centreville to 3000 they certainly could have expanded Chantilly's permanent capacity to 2750, which would help with overcrowding there, especially given FCPS's own projections that enrollment at Chantilly will decline by almost 300 students over the next five years.

I am from the other side of the county.

I recently made a couple of trips to and from Dulles.

As a taxpayer, finding a way to use Dulles (the toll road and 28) as a dividing line between high school zones makes complete sense and sounds like a hood use of taxpayer funds and a responsible reason for rezoning.

Why on earth would anyone be against that?

Spend $150 million to make the Dulles toll road a dividing line? Man, you ladies continue to grasp for any straw you can find. Why on earth would you think that makes any logical sense?

Frankly, at this point anyone who wants this to be a neighborhood school should be continuously pestering the school board to release plans. This stuff festers because the school board had been silent for over a month on the topic.

No kid should be crossing a major thoroughfare (dulles toll road, mixing bowl, beltway, 395, etc) to go to school

How would you draw Cooper Middle School and Langley’s boundaries, then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A Humanities magnet or any other magnet is not something you do when the budget looks so tight. It doesn’t save any money.

KAA is placed precisely where a new HS has been proposed for decades. It can solve many issues in the western part of the county. Its cost is far less that a new school or even an expansion of an existing school would cost. Plus, it saves time - it’s here- no need to expand other schools in the area, no need to acquire land and build. Time also saves money- especially with inflation.

Will it be a perfect solution? Of course not, so that means there will be plenty of things to pick at and try to derail it - if one so chooses. So, we do not have to worry about not having anything to discuss.

So the budget is tight enough that we can’t afford a magnet but not tight enough that we can’t rush into a surprise $150 million new school?

Seems pretty inconsistent if you ask me.

No. Not inconsistent. A magnet is a luxury. A school for local students is a basic need.

🤣🤣🤣. You and the rest of us have a very different definition of “basic need.”

We get you have to try to make a distinction, but that is a sttrrrreeeeeettttcchh.

Disagree. Public schools are basic needs. New Western HS has been expected and planned for over a decade.

Oh good point. I totally forgot that those kids haven’t had a public school up until this point. 🤣

You’re flailing.

The area is broken into four different schools.
1. One (the closest one for most of the area) is deemed by FCPS to be overcrowded and, therefore, they have sent nearby students to a school that is 10-13 miles away.
2. They plan to take additional students out of that school and add them to the long bus trip.
3. Another group is sent to a school that is separated from the rest of the school community by Dulles Airport, industrial and commercial facilities. This divides the school community in a way that is difficult to form a cohesive group.
4. This school mentioned at #3 is full and new construction is underway in areas near the high school and in an area in the Carson area. Very soon, there would be another overcrowded school.
5. School #4 has some students assigned to Carson. In this case, it is a reasonable distance for most of the students who attend and is not divided from others. At this point it is not overcrowded, but there is construction in that school area, as well.

Outside of the KAA area is a school that is set for a very expensive expansion. It shares a boundary with #1 and #3.

If overcrowding and proximity do not indicate a need for a school, please tell me (and FCPS) how to fix it.

Why aren't you identifying these schools by name? Are you afraid to state clearly that your position is that Westfield currently lacks a "cohesive group"? And, if so, is that because those on one side of Dulles want to separate themselves from those on the other side of Dulles? Or you want to avoid a discussion as to who else is going to attend Westfield if all the kids on one side are redistricted to a school at the KAA site? And if all the growth you claim is happening in the Westfield area materializes, why shouldn't they use some of the hundreds of empty seats at Herndon first?

For years now, FCPS has been planning to expanding Centreville to 3000. That's very big, and maybe they will scale back that expansion if KAA opens, but if they were prepared to expand Centreville to 3000 they certainly could have expanded Chantilly's permanent capacity to 2750, which would help with overcrowding there, especially given FCPS's own projections that enrollment at Chantilly will decline by almost 300 students over the next five years.

I am from the other side of the county.

I recently made a couple of trips to and from Dulles.

As a taxpayer, finding a way to use Dulles (the toll road and 28) as a dividing line between high school zones makes complete sense and sounds like a hood use of taxpayer funds and a responsible reason for rezoning.

Why on earth would anyone be against that?

Spend $150 million to make the Dulles toll road a dividing line? Man, you ladies continue to grasp for any straw you can find. Why on earth would you think that makes any logical sense?

Frankly, at this point anyone who wants this to be a neighborhood school should be continuously pestering the school board to release plans. This stuff festers because the school board had been silent for over a month on the topic.

No kid should be crossing a major thoroughfare (dulles toll road, mixing bowl, beltway, 395, etc) to go to school

Is this comment self-serving or just clueless?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. The only grey KAA areas are the original sale of the roperty zoned for a school next to Carson MS.

KAA as a base school removes potential inflow to Herndon HS and opens up capacity at Soutth Lakes. So who doesn't want to get moved to Herndon and South Lakes? Who would want to disrupt the flow out of Herndon to South Lakes? All BRAC members and citizen group reps plus advisory committee individuals live somewhere.

This post is incomprehensible. There are lots of unanswered questions still pending.

+1. She is the one that believes everything ties back to Langley. It’s her personal Illuminati/QAnon theory.

Thanks ladies and gentlemen. Everything does not tie back to Langley boundaries. Note the pending KAA purchase has elicited comments from this new organization that started after the GFCA "palace coup" https://citizensforgreatfalls.org/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=354666&item_id=119745

Herndon and Langley were excluded from the 2008 South Lakes boundary process which impacted Oakton, Westfield, Madison, and Chantilly. KAA as a magnet has no impact on base school boundaries.

🤣🤣🤣. WYG1YGA.

[Anonymous]

I read the letter advocating for a magnet. Interesting that it starts out acknowledging the need for a school to resolve crowding in Western Fairfax County but ends with advocating for a humanities magnet.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf


Except on DCUM, i've never heard anyone advocate for a humanities magnet.

And, do these people understand where this school is? Do they really think people from Mt. Vernon, West Potomac, Hayfield, etc want a school by Dulles Airport?

This school is the perfect location for the community that needs it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. The only grey KAA areas are the original sale of the roperty zoned for a school next to Carson MS.

KAA as a base school removes potential inflow to Herndon HS and opens up capacity at Soutth Lakes. So who doesn't want to get moved to Herndon and South Lakes? Who would want to disrupt the flow out of Herndon to South Lakes? All BRAC members and citizen group reps plus advisory committee individuals live somewhere.

This post is incomprehensible. There are lots of unanswered questions still pending.

+1. She is the one that believes everything ties back to Langley. It’s her personal Illuminati/QAnon theory.

Thanks ladies and gentlemen. Everything does not tie back to Langley boundaries. Note the pending KAA purchase has elicited comments from this new organization that started after the GFCA "palace coup" https://citizensforgreatfalls.org/content.aspx?page_id=5&club_id=354666&item_id=119745

Herndon and Langley were excluded from the 2008 South Lakes boundary process which impacted Oakton, Westfield, Madison, and Chantilly. KAA as a magnet has no impact on base school boundaries.

🤣🤣🤣. WYG1YGA.

DP. I’m usually decent at guessing acronyms but no idea what this means.

[Anonymous]

For years now, FCPS has been planning to expanding Centreville to 3000. That's very big, and maybe they will scale back that expansion if KAA opens, but if they were prepared to expand Centreville to 3000 they certainly could have expanded Chantilly's permanent capacity to 2750, which would help with overcrowding there, especially given FCPS's own projections that enrollment at Chantilly will decline by almost 300 students over the next five years.

Do you have any idea how many kids live near Chantilly High School that are sent elsewhere because of space? Hint: It's far more than 300.

And, I suggest you look at a satellite map of Chantilly High School. There is already limited parking and sports teams have to practice off site. I guess they could add a third story--but that would require closing the school, I think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read the letter advocating for a magnet. Interesting that it starts out acknowledging the need for a school to resolve crowding in Western Fairfax County but ends with advocating for a humanities magnet.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf

Except on DCUM, i've never heard anyone advocate for a humanities magnet.

And, do these people understand where this school is? Do they really think people from Mt. Vernon, West Potomac, Hayfield, etc want a school by Dulles Airport?

This school is the perfect location for the community that needs it.

Other communities have needs as well. What will the final price tag be for turning KAA into a public HS, were alternative uses of that money considered, and who gets moved to Westfield when Coates, Floris, and McNair get moved out?

Or does all this get ignored just because Dunne and Dixit want to compete for who can pay themselves on the back the hardest?

[Anonymous]

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For years now, FCPS has been planning to expanding Centreville to 3000. That's very big, and maybe they will scale back that expansion if KAA opens, but if they were prepared to expand Centreville to 3000 they certainly could have expanded Chantilly's permanent capacity to 2750, which would help with overcrowding there, especially given FCPS's own projections that enrollment at Chantilly will decline by almost 300 students over the next five years.

Do you have any idea how many kids live near Chantilly High School that are sent elsewhere because of space? Hint: It's far more than 300.

And, I suggest you look at a satellite map of Chantilly High School. There is already limited parking and sports teams have to practice off site. I guess they could add a third story--but that would require closing the school, I think.

Chantilly’s enrollment would decline either way, so it would just be about better space there, not increasing the current enrollment. If the school has space for nine land-intensive trailers and 14 land-intensive modular classrooms it would have space for a permanent addition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

For years now, FCPS has been planning to expanding Centreville to 3000. That's very big, and maybe they will scale back that expansion if KAA opens, but if they were prepared to expand Centreville to 3000 they certainly could have expanded Chantilly's permanent capacity to 2750, which would help with overcrowding there, especially given FCPS's own projections that enrollment at Chantilly will decline by almost 300 students over the next five years.

Do you have any idea how many kids live near Chantilly High School that are sent elsewhere because of space? Hint: It's far more than 300.

And, I suggest you look at a satellite map of Chantilly High School. There is already limited parking and sports teams have to practice off site. I guess they could add a third story--but that would require closing the school, I think.

Chantilly’s enrollment would decline either way, so it would just be about better space there, not increasing the current enrollment. If the school has space for nine land-intensive trailers and 14 land-intensive modular classrooms it would have space for a permanent addition.

Suggest you take a field trip.

[Anonymous]

Chantilly’s enrollment would decline either way, so it would just be about better space there, not increasing the current enrollment. If the school has space for nine land-intensive trailers and 14 land-intensive modular classrooms it would have space for a permanent addition.

You have hundreds of kids going to Oakton who should be at Chantilly. And, THRU plans to send more.

Again, there is NEW construction in Chantilly, Westfield, and KAA area. It's time to acknowledge the reality that the school is needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

For years now, FCPS has been planning to expanding Centreville to 3000. That's very big, and maybe they will scale back that expansion if KAA opens, but if they were prepared to expand Centreville to 3000 they certainly could have expanded Chantilly's permanent capacity to 2750, which would help with overcrowding there, especially given FCPS's own projections that enrollment at Chantilly will decline by almost 300 students over the next five years.

Do you have any idea how many kids live near Chantilly High School that are sent elsewhere because of space? Hint: It's far more than 300.

And, I suggest you look at a satellite map of Chantilly High School. There is already limited parking and sports teams have to practice off site. I guess they could add a third story--but that would require closing the school, I think.

Chantilly’s enrollment would decline either way, so it would just be about better space there, not increasing the current enrollment. If the school has space for nine land-intensive trailers and 14 land-intensive modular classrooms it would have space for a permanent addition.

Suggest you take a field trip.

Suggest you use a modicum of common sense. Building a permanent addition to replace trailers and a modular frees up space.

[Anonymous]

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Chantilly’s enrollment would decline either way, so it would just be about better space there, not increasing the current enrollment. If the school has space for nine land-intensive trailers and 14 land-intensive modular classrooms it would have space for a permanent addition.

You have hundreds of kids going to Oakton who should be at Chantilly. And, THRU plans to send more.

Again, there is NEW construction in Chantilly, Westfield, and KAA area. It's time to acknowledge the reality that the school is needed.

There is new construction elsewhere in the county as well. They were enamored of the idea they were getting a bargain but they still haven’t told us where the money is coming from and what gets delayed, scaled back, or cancelled now. We deserve better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Chantilly’s enrollment would decline either way, so it would just be about better space there, not increasing the current enrollment. If the school has space for nine land-intensive trailers and 14 land-intensive modular classrooms it would have space for a permanent addition.

You have hundreds of kids going to Oakton who should be at Chantilly. And, THRU plans to send more.

Again, there is NEW construction in Chantilly, Westfield, and KAA area. It's time to acknowledge the reality that the school is needed.

Fill those hundreds of empty seats at Herndon then.