GT testing in 2nd grade?

[Anonymous]

DD is in second grade and at our parent teacher conference this year her teacher mentioned that they will be testing all students for gifted and talented identification this winter. Does anyone know the process moving forward? It seems really early to me for placing kids in or out of GT, but this is our first experience with elementary school so it is all new. What happens if they are identified - how does it impact their third grade curriculum? I was under the impression that GT didn't begin until 4th grade. This is MCPS, in case that matters.

[Anonymous]

What school system are you in?

FCPS conducted the CogAT in October. It is one part of the determination of a kids potential eligibility for the AAP program in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What school system are you in?

FCPS conducted the CogAT in October. It is one part of the determination of a kids potential eligibility for the AAP program in FCPS.

Read the last sentence of the orig post.

[Anonymous]

OP you should post this in the MD schools forum.

[Anonymous]

The GT testing in 2nd grade in MCPS doesn't mean anything or determine who goes to the CES. You don't need to stress about it, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What school system are you in?

FCPS conducted the CogAT in October. It is one part of the determination of a kids potential eligibility for the AAP program in FCPS.

Read the last sentence of the orig post.

LOL Totally missed that. Not sure how. I'll blame lack of caffeine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What school system are you in?

FCPS conducted the CogAT in October. It is one part of the determination of a kids potential eligibility for the AAP program in FCPS.

Read the last sentence of the orig post.

LOL Totally missed that. Not sure how. I'll blame lack of caffeine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The GT testing in 2nd grade in MCPS doesn't mean anything or determine who goes to the CES. You don't need to stress about it, OP.

They’re required by state law to test 2nd graders, so they do. This testing does not affect their third grade instruction. In 3rd grade, kids take the CogAT if they want to be considered for a CES (Center for Enriched Studies), which is now referred to as an enriched program rather than a gifted program. For CES placement, a committee will examine grades, MAP-M, MAP-R, various other assessments and the CogAT. They will assess whether your child has a peer group in your home school. If your child is determined to be a true outlier, he or she will be invited to a regional CES. The exception would be if your home school is a local CES. If so, the top third of the kids are placed in the local CES for 4th and 5th grade. Placement in a CES has no bearing on admission to middle school competitive magnet programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The GT testing in 2nd grade in MCPS doesn't mean anything or determine who goes to the CES. You don't need to stress about it, OP.

They’re required by state law to test 2nd graders, so they do. This testing does not affect their third grade instruction. In 3rd grade, kids take the CogAT if they want to be considered for a CES (Center for Enriched Studies), which is now referred to as an enriched program rather than a gifted program. For CES placement, a committee will examine grades, MAP-M, MAP-R, various other assessments and the CogAT. They will assess whether your child has a peer group in your home school. If your child is determined to be a true outlier, he or she will be invited to a regional CES. The exception would be if your home school is a local CES. If so, the top third of the kids are placed in the local CES for 4th and 5th grade. Placement in a CES has no bearing on admission to middle school competitive magnet programs.

What test do they use in 2ns grade to assess? Not CogAT?

[Anonymous]

A few years ago they were using InView for 2nd graders. I don’t know if that’s still what they use. At the time that my now 6th grader took InView, it was a pencil and paper test and students answered questions by filling in the bubble of the correct answer. None of their other testing is done that way, so there can be some difficulty with the format of the test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The GT testing in 2nd grade in MCPS doesn't mean anything or determine who goes to the CES. You don't need to stress about it, OP.

They’re required by state law to test 2nd graders, so they do. This testing does not affect their third grade instruction. In 3rd grade, kids take the CogAT if they want to be considered for a CES (Center for Enriched Studies), which is now referred to as an enriched program rather than a gifted program. For CES placement, a committee will examine grades, MAP-M, MAP-R, various other assessments and the CogAT. They will assess whether your child has a peer group in your home school. If your child is determined to be a true outlier, he or she will be invited to a regional CES. The exception would be if your home school is a local CES. If so, the top third of the kids are placed in the local CES for 4th and 5th grade. Placement in a CES has no bearing on admission to middle school competitive magnet programs.

What test do they use in 2ns grade to assess? Not CogAT?

They have changed the 2nd Grade testing to the CogAT Screener this year. You will find it here, listed for March: https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/sharedaccountability/testing/ES_EvidenceofLearningTimeline.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The GT testing in 2nd grade in MCPS doesn't mean anything or determine who goes to the CES. You don't need to stress about it, OP.

They’re required by state law to test 2nd graders, so they do. This testing does not affect their third grade instruction. In 3rd grade, kids take the CogAT if they want to be considered for a CES (Center for Enriched Studies), which is now referred to as an enriched program rather than a gifted program. For CES placement, a committee will examine grades, MAP-M, MAP-R, various other assessments and the CogAT. They will assess whether your child has a peer group in your home school. If your child is determined to be a true outlier, he or she will be invited to a regional CES. The exception would be if your home school is a local CES. If so, the top third of the kids are placed in the local CES for 4th and 5th grade. Placement in a CES has no bearing on admission to middle school competitive magnet programs.

What test do they use in 2ns grade to assess? Not CogAT?

They have changed the 2nd Grade testing to the CogAT Screener this year. You will find it here, listed for March: https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/sharedaccountability/testing/ES_EvidenceofLearningTimeline.pdf

Weird. So they're now giving the CogAT Screener to all 2nd graders, and then again in 3rd grade for CES evaluations? That seems odd but I guess it's what they're doing.

[Anonymous]

The CogAT was not administered to 2nd graders this year due to the pandemic. Does this mean that the GT identification will not be happening this year? We had originally been told to expect a letter in June.

[Anonymous]

GT identification in 2nd grade means absolutely nothing as a practical matter.

[Anonymous]

For Cogat..do they give the cogat 3rd grade test or cogat screener?