terrorist attack in Paris

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous
I love it. Let's leave our countries b/c we're persecuted. Then, let's move to Europe or to the US or to Australia, for example. Let's then try to push our agenda on others by constantly trying to define Islam to the masses b/c the Westerners don't see the true Islam.

ugh

If it's that much trouble, then fix your homeland instead of abandoning it.

Why leave an Islamic nation - where you can practice your religion freely - and enter into a country where you always have to face questions?

You are so deep in cliches, it's unfunny.

First, people leave their countries for all kinds of reasons. It doesn't have to be persecution. You have no idea why her family moved. As long as they did so legally and don't break laws while here, it's beside the point why they moved.

Second, and I feel that this is something you truly don't get. "Islamic" nations (btw, there is no such thing, there are only Muslim-majority countries) have nothing to do with Islam. Defending and explaining Islam has absolutely nothing to do with explaining or justifying the behavior of "Islamic nations". These two are completely unrelated questions. Answering questions about Islam and Muslims has nothing to do with explaining the actions or policy of "Islamic nations." Likewise, she has nothing to do with immigration policies, foreign affairs or internal politics of "Islamic nations." She has zero input into any of this.

Third, in a democracy all kinds of people push all kinds of agendas all the time. Her agenda is no better or worse than yours. She is entitled to as much space in the public discourse as you.

Fourth, Islam in America can be practiced a lot more freely than in many Muslim-majority countries, depending on the kind of Islam.

[Anonymous]

Fourth, Islam in America can be practiced a lot more freely than in many Muslim-majority countries, depending on the kind of Islam.

and voila!

oh my! the irony

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why leave an Islamic nation - where you can practice your religion freely - and enter into a country where you always have to face questions?

I, too, sincerely would like to know the answer to that question.

at least for the rich saudis in northern virginia, same reason all the other saudis are in mclean and tysons corner. to have an out for the eventual collapse of the kingdom

anyone remember when South Africa was considered stable and and will never change in the 70's.

the kingdom will go through a similar convulsion, just a question of when. You can't have a couple thousand rich aristocrats in control of that much wealth forever.

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:
I love it. Let's leave our countries b/c we're persecuted. Then, let's move to Europe or to the US or to Australia, for example. Let's then try to push our agenda on others by constantly trying to define Islam to the masses b/c the Westerners don't see the true Islam.

ugh

If it's that much trouble, then fix your homeland instead of abandoning it.

Why leave an Islamic nation - where you can practice your religion freely - and enter into a country where you always have to face questions?

You are so deep in cliches, it's unfunny.

First, people leave their countries for all kinds of reasons. It doesn't have to be persecution. You have no idea why her family moved. As long as they did so legally and don't break laws while here, it's beside the point why they moved.

Second, and I feel that this is something you truly don't get. "Islamic" nations (btw, there is no such thing, there are only Muslim-majority countries) have nothing to do with Islam. Defending and explaining Islam has absolutely nothing to do with explaining or justifying the behavior of "Islamic nations". These two are completely unrelated questions. Answering questions about Islam and Muslims has nothing to do with explaining the actions or policy of "Islamic nations." Likewise, she has nothing to do with immigration policies, foreign affairs or internal politics of "Islamic nations." She has zero input into any of this.

Third, in a democracy all kinds of people push all kinds of agendas all the time. Her agenda is no better or worse than yours. She is entitled to as much space in the public discourse as you.

Fourth, Islam in America can be practiced a lot more freely than in many Muslim-majority countries, depending on the kind of Islam.

I agree. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I love it. Let's leave our countries b/c we're persecuted. Then, let's move to Europe or to the US or to Australia, for example. Let's then try to push our agenda on others by constantly trying to define Islam to the masses b/c the Westerners don't see the true Islam.

ugh

If it's that much trouble, then fix your homeland instead of abandoning it.

Why leave an Islamic nation - where you can practice your religion freely - and enter into a country where you always have to face questions?

You are so deep in cliches, it's unfunny.

First, people leave their countries for all kinds of reasons. It doesn't have to be persecution. You have no idea why her family moved. As long as they did so legally and don't break laws while here, it's beside the point why they moved.

Second, and I feel that this is something you truly don't get. "Islamic" nations (btw, there is no such thing, there are only Muslim-majority countries) have nothing to do with Islam. Defending and explaining Islam has absolutely nothing to do with explaining or justifying the behavior of "Islamic nations". These two are completely unrelated questions. Answering questions about Islam and Muslims has nothing to do with explaining the actions or policy of "Islamic nations." Likewise, she has nothing to do with immigration policies, foreign affairs or internal politics of "Islamic nations." She has zero input into any of this.

Third, in a democracy all kinds of people push all kinds of agendas all the time. Her agenda is no better or worse than yours. She is entitled to as much space in the public discourse as you.

Fourth, Islam in America can be practiced a lot more freely than in many Muslim-majority countries, depending on the kind of Islam.

I agree. Thank you!

Don't thank me, darlin', I'm your Shia/Saudi nemesis. it's not personal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad the niqab is outlawed in France. Otherwise this lovely ninja could still be walking around in Paris with impunity with an AK-47 inside her dress.

http://abonnes.lemonde.fr/societe/portfolio/2015/0...te-a-la-main_4552904_3224.html

It's so barbaric to ask them to show their faces...

Outlawing niqab did not prevent the recent Paris attack. I don't see the point of outlawing it.

How does a person (regular citizen or police) identify or remember identifying characteristics of a woman or other person who only shows a pair of eyes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad the niqab is outlawed in France. Otherwise this lovely ninja could still be walking around in Paris with impunity with an AK-47 inside her dress.

http://abonnes.lemonde.fr/societe/portfolio/2015/0...te-a-la-main_4552904_3224.html

It's so barbaric to ask them to show their faces...

Outlawing niqab did not prevent the recent Paris attack. I don't see the point of outlawing it.

How does a person (regular citizen or police) identify or remember identifying characteristics of a woman or other person who only shows a pair of eyes?

The better question is: what percentage of crime has been committed by niqabis?

The irony of your question is that criminals don't concern themselves with whether or not it's legal for them to disguise themselves. You think a potential bank robber or terrorist going to think, oh gee, it's illegal to wear a niqab, too bad, can't blow stuff up anymore, guess I'm gonna go be a dental hygienist or a loan officer?

[Anonymous]

The better question is: what percentage of crime has been committed by niqabis?

How can they commit crimes when they can barely run away in those layers of cloth or even see through their face masks?



Hey - how about I pose THIS question:
What IF your daughter came home wearing one of these ridiculous costumes? I'm sure you'd be pleased she was taking up a cause!



niqab



burqa

[Muslima]

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I love it. Let's leave our countries b/c we're persecuted. Then, let's move to Europe or to the US or to Australia, for example. Let's then try to push our agenda on others by constantly trying to define Islam to the masses b/c the Westerners don't see the true Islam.

ugh

If it's that much trouble, then fix your homeland instead of abandoning it.

Why leave an Islamic nation - where you can practice your religion freely - and enter into a country where you always have to face questions?

You are so deep in cliches, it's unfunny.

First, people leave their countries for all kinds of reasons. It doesn't have to be persecution. You have no idea why her family moved. As long as they did so legally and don't break laws while here, it's beside the point why they moved.

Second, and I feel that this is something you truly don't get. "Islamic" nations (btw, there is no such thing, there are only Muslim-majority countries) have nothing to do with Islam. Defending and explaining Islam has absolutely nothing to do with explaining or justifying the behavior of "Islamic nations". These two are completely unrelated questions. Answering questions about Islam and Muslims has nothing to do with explaining the actions or policy of "Islamic nations." Likewise, she has nothing to do with immigration policies, foreign affairs or internal politics of "Islamic nations." She has zero input into any of this.

Third, in a democracy all kinds of people push all kinds of agendas all the time. Her agenda is no better or worse than yours. She is entitled to as much space in the public discourse as you.

Fourth, Islam in America can be practiced a lot more freely than in many Muslim-majority countries, depending on the kind of Islam.

I agree. Thank you!

Don't thank me, darlin', I'm your Shia/Saudi nemesis. it's not personal.

I will still thank you , despite our differences. I can acknowledge the truth when I see it.

[Anonymous]

maybe I was wrong

They're moving. But then again, they are wearing pants.

http://media2.intoday.in/wonderwoman/images/stories//feb2010/100809014551_workingwomen_s1.jpg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:maybe I was wrong

They're moving. But then again, they are wearing pants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad the niqab is outlawed in France. Otherwise this lovely ninja could still be walking around in Paris with impunity with an AK-47 inside her dress.

http://abonnes.lemonde.fr/societe/portfolio/2015/0...te-a-la-main_4552904_3224.html

It's so barbaric to ask them to show their faces...

Outlawing niqab did not prevent the recent Paris attack. I don't see the point of outlawing it.

How does a person (regular citizen or police) identify or remember identifying characteristics of a woman or other person who only shows a pair of eyes?

when someone wears a niqab, they are not women, they are property.

they need to be free of the abuse that propagates something like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
How can they commit crimes when they can barely run away in those layers of cloth or even see through their face masks?

No need to run away when you are a suicide bomber. This is from last week:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/english-speaking-suicide-bomber-kills-policeman-in-attack-near-istanbuls-touristic-square.aspx?PageID=238&NID=76584&NewsCatID=509

A policeman has been killed in a suicide attack by an English-speaking woman in central Istanbul, a week after another attack on the city's police by a far-left group.

A niqab-clad female suicide bomber targeted the building of the tourism police unit near Sultanahmet Square, one of Istanbul's most popular touristic places, at 5:20 p.m. on Jan. 6, NTV television reported.

[Anonymous]

another reason for hijab, to cover 10 year children of Islam

When my parents took me to the Boko Haram training camp in Bauchi, I did not have an idea what they wanted me to go and do. But when we got there, one of the trainers asked me whether I wanted to go to paradise. I replied in the affirmative. He then told me that I had an assignment to carry out in Kano. After the necessary training, he told me that three of us (all female) would travel to Kano to execute the assignment, saying after executing the assignment, we would then be entitled to make it to paradise.

When we got to Kano, they took us straight to Kantin Kwari market. When it was time for the execution, the two other girls took their position. We all had the bombs concealed in our dresses because we were wearing hijab. The others detonated their bombs, but I vehemently refused to ignite mine. But I was injured on my left leg from the explosion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/12/reports-10-year-old-girl-suicide-bomber-kills-at-least-16-in-nigeria/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The better question is: what percentage of crime has been committed by niqabis?

How can they commit crimes when they can barely run away in those layers of cloth or even see through their face masks?



Hey - how about I pose THIS question:
What IF your daughter came home wearing one of these ridiculous costumes? I'm sure you'd be pleased she was taking up a cause!



niqab



burqa

It sort of reminds me of the Star Wars Bar.