FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

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Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

No. There is one person who is obsessed with middle schools being sole feeders to high schools. The people in the KAA area have been accustomed to split feeder middle schools for decades.

I agree that we would likely all want no split feeders, but that is a pipe dream.

I also suspect the person who wants all of current Carson to go to KAA is likely to be disappointed--and that is what worries her.
I think I understand because I suspect that she is currently in a district with a split feeder elementary school, as well.

Point taken. I should have said "some people" or "one person" rather than "the people." That was an overstatement.

As I said, there's broad support for the KAA acquisition, although some justifiably would have liked the School Board to share more information on how it will be funded and how it affects other renovation projects and the ongoing boundary study.

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

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Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

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Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

DP. It’s the epitome of absurd to tell residents that they can’t ask reasonable questions of our government, especially when it’s a $150mm purchase funded with our money.

But we all get that you stand to benefit and don’t want any questions to be asked. You’ve been very vocal on this topic.

The school board relies on your silence to make shady deals in the dark.

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

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Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

DP. It’s the epitome of absurd to tell residents that they can’t ask reasonable questions of our government, especially when it’s a $150mm purchase funded with our money.

But we all get that you stand to benefit and don’t want any questions to be asked. You’ve been very vocal on this topic.

The school board relies on your silence to make shady deals in the dark.

Wow! $150 million for a whole school plus two buildings and furnishings? A Shady Deal? Sounds like a bargain to me.

$300 million for a renovation/expansion compared to this?

Had it been out in the open, it probably would not have come to fruition.

What part of competitive real estate purchases do you not understand?

And, why does it displease you so much that an area that needs it can get a school?

I suspect I know the answer to that question.

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Now, let's just say this went the way some think it should have:



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.
But, let's just say, it was presented at the next SB meeting. How would you think they should have done it? Mateo: "Gee, I hear KAA is for sale. Should we buy it?" "How much should we pay?"

Sure. When there is a house for sale in your neighborhood --and a lot of interest in it--you would announce to everyone that you are interested in purchasing it? What do you think would happen? Would you get it at a good price or would the price go up with competitive bidders?

It has not been that long since they announced this. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

No. Not trying to flood. Stepped away from forum and came back to finish. Posted twice.

No. Not a School Board apologist. Just someone who believes in giving credit where due.

Pleae explain how you would have conducted a purchase such as this----and had it be completed successfully. But, I suspect that you are like the Nextdoor poster who was "disheartened" by the purchase for some reason. And, I suspect it has nothing to do with process or dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

As opposed to the mooch who demands the county spend that money expanding McLean instead and transporting their kids from the western edge of the county all the way to Langley in perpetuity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

As opposed to the mooch who demands the county spend that money expanding McLean instead and transporting their kids from the western edge of the county all the way to Langley in perpetuity.

I think you have me confused with someone else, never been on Nextdoor.

For someone who wants their neighbors to pony up $150 million to benefit your kid, you’ve got a pretty snarky attitude. You should try saying please and not be such a juvenile twerp.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

As opposed to the mooch who demands the county spend that money expanding McLean instead and transporting their kids from the western edge of the county all the way to Langley in perpetuity.

DP. That comment takes conflating posters to a new level. Congratulations.

I’m starting to think your goal is not simply to benefit from a new school, but also to see other pyramids degraded.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

As opposed to the mooch who demands the county spend that money expanding McLean instead and transporting their kids from the western edge of the county all the way to Langley in perpetuity.

I think you have me confused with someone else, never been on Nextdoor.

For someone who wants their neighbors to pony up $150 million to benefit your kid, you’ve got a pretty snarky attitude. You should try saying please and not be such a juvenile twerp.

You do realize you are responding to at least two different posters?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

As opposed to the mooch who demands the county spend that money expanding McLean instead and transporting their kids from the western edge of the county all the way to Langley in perpetuity.

I think you have me confused with someone else, never been on Nextdoor.

For someone who wants their neighbors to pony up $150 million to benefit your kid, you’ve got a pretty snarky attitude. You should try saying please and not be such a juvenile twerp.

You do realize you are responding to at least two different posters?

We believe you 😉

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ The decision to purchase a new high school (KAA) in the middle of the process and then play dumb about the implications of that acquisition for the ongoing boundary review only further underscores the deep incompetence of those currently running FCPS or charged with its oversight.

Strongly disagree. It is the only competent thing they have done lately. Some of the worst boundaries suggested by THRU are in this area. And the boundaries in this area are like a spider web--they have been adjusted in this manner because there was no where else to go.
This is the area that needs the space.

If the School Board were smart, they would take advantage of the KAA decision and drop this current boundary study. It gives them a great excuse to do so. They will necessarily need to make adjustments in boundaries due to KAA, but there are logical options that do not involved splitting neighborhoods down the middle and sending kids thirty minutes away. It should enable school communities.

Right? This is the only smart thing FCPS has done in ages. It just makes so much sense, now middle schools can all go to the same high school and not be split up. All of Carson can go to the KAA building, all of Stone can go to Westfield, all of Hughes can go to South Lakes, all of Franklin can go to Chantilly. It just makes sense.

I

Agree.

It will not quite work that way, but it should be an improvement.

Of course it won't work that way, because not everyone who currently goes to Carson is likely to end up at KAA, and Stone is not big enough to be the sole feeder to Westfield. But the people who want the KAA purchase to go through don't want to acknowledge any possible complications or messiness associated with new boundaries for a school at the KAA site, because they see that as potentially souring someone on the deal. It's a bit childish, especially when just about everyone is in favor of the purchase.

I don't see how turning 4 way and 3 way split feeders into 2 way splits is a complication or messiness. An improvement is an improvement. One poster is trying to say "all Carson to KAA" likely because they are at Fox Mill ES (which goes to Carson) and want to go to KAA instead of South Lakes.
It would be nice to hear from the school board how KAA will affect the expansion plans at Centreville and other spending going forward, but acting like that had to be figured out before making the purchase is why you get so much resistance to your posts. It's blatantly obvious that they got a great deal on a school that had been needed and planned for a long time - and one that solves more problems than those future projects that may or may not be delayed. I doubt the school board gives us any answers about future budgets until next year's CIP update forces them to put it in writing. It sucks, but complaining about it incessantly here won't make it happen any sooner.

You’re conflating multiple posters who’ve suggested FCPS would be better served by addressing, or at least acknowledging, some fairly basic questions associated with the KAA purchase.

All I’ll add at this point is that when you suggest that FCPS deserves nothing but unmitigated praise for proceeding as it has with this deal you come across as both selfish and also dismissive of those who’d expect more transparency from School Board members who’ve spent years telling people they are cash strapped and can’t possibly fund needed projects in other parts of the county - only to suddenly commit to spending at least $150 million on this school (and we all know the final number will be higher).

Again, most intuitively see the logic for this acquisition, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be providing more details as to where the money will come from, what other projects will be bumped, and how it will affect a boundary review that had already been underway for well over a year. They’ve had time now to come up with answers, or at least commit to providing them, and basically are just leaving people guessing instead. That’s not good governance.

It seems to me that things are progressing as they should. I have not seen any indication that they have closed on the sale yet. I would think that we will here more after that.

Have you written your School Board member and asked how they are going to pay for it?



The first I knew KAA was closing was on DCUM--specifically: February 13 is when it was first posted here.
When did SB become aware? I don't know.

Did you really expect them to make an announcement that they were seeking to purchase the property? Have you ever purchased real estate?

It has been one month since they announced the purchase. We will get answers. You may or may not like them, but we will get them.
My guess is that it may scale back a renovation or delay it a year. They may be able to use one of the extra buildings to fill some other real estate needs of the system and save money there.

DP. Trying to flood the zone with multiple posts, eh?

I’ve never met an sb apologist as intense as you, but it is quite clear that you want no questions because you want your kids to benefit.

Classic mooch who demands $150 million of taxpayers money and demands no questions be asked.

As opposed to the mooch who demands the county spend that money expanding McLean instead and transporting their kids from the western edge of the county all the way to Langley in perpetuity.

I think you have me confused with someone else, never been on Nextdoor.

For someone who wants their neighbors to pony up $150 million to benefit your kid, you’ve got a pretty snarky attitude. You should try saying please and not be such a juvenile twerp.

17:13 replying: I don't think anyone is saying that no questions shall be asked. I just think the reality is that the school board isn't likely to tell us how the KAA purchase will affect the Capital Improvement Plan until they publish the next Capital Improvement Plan. The CIP is exactly that, a PLAN. The planned western high school land becoming available unexpectedly with the school already built on it at 1/3 the expected price caused them to alter that plan. They will publish the adjusted plan next year. Good luck getting anything out of them before then.