Carnivale Row

[Anonymous]

We've been watching this, an episode a night. Well done, and good cast. But it's starting to bother me how it seems like every episode is about a different subject. Not much narrative arc.

[Anonymous]

My BF and I call it the "Fairy Brothel Show." I've only seen a few episodes, but I'm enjoying it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We've been watching this, an episode a night. Well done, and good cast. But it's starting to bother me how it seems like every episode is about a different subject. Not much narrative arc.

I miss shows that do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My BF and I call it the "Fairy Brothel Show." I've only seen a few episodes, but I'm enjoying it.

Funnily I enough I didn't mind the brothel aspect, I loved shows like Spartacus and Game of Thrones which had a lot of brothel sex scenes.

However both of those shows had a cohesive narrative that Carnival Row seemed to lack. Half this show seemed about showcasing the characters as alien rather than as people with narratives. And the other half was about building specific couple storylines that never interconnected without the character's being dead.

Agreus Astrayon and Imogen Spurnrose.

Vignette Stonemoss and Rycroft Philostrate.

Jonah, Piety, and Absalom Breakspear.

[Anonymous]

I'm almost at the end of the series, and the storylines are coming together.

It's slow and dark (literally dark sets/screens), so I often fall asleep watching.

Cara isn't believable as a hetero female. Orlando is over-acting, right? Or does he always talk like that?

I like shows with accents, so I'm sticking with it.

The obvious storyline/theme is racism, class war and politics. The Fae/Pucks are essentially the immigrants at the border.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My BF and I call it the "Fairy Brothel Show." I've only seen a few episodes, but I'm enjoying it.

Funnily I enough I didn't mind the brothel aspect, I loved shows like Spartacus and Game of Thrones which had a lot of brothel sex scenes.

However both of those shows had a cohesive narrative that Carnival Row seemed to lack. Half this show seemed about showcasing the characters as alien rather than as people with narratives. And the other half was about building specific couple storylines that never interconnected without the character's being dead.

Agreus Astrayon and Imogen Spurnrose.

Vignette Stonemoss and Rycroft Philostrate.

Jonah, Piety, and Absalom Breakspear.

I haven’t watched the show, but might have to start just for the character names!

[Anonymous]

I thought "Meh". The Pucks with the huge horns were overdone. And I love fantasy in general. I also felt the Burgh as a set was claustrophobic - always the same half a block for outdoor scene, and the supposedly "most desirable neighborhood" is basically a small courtyard. Interiors were much better, but also seemed "fake" somehow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought "Meh". The Pucks with the huge horns were overdone. And I love fantasy in general. I also felt the Burgh as a set was claustrophobic - always the same half a block for outdoor scene, and the supposedly "most desirable neighborhood" is basically a small courtyard. Interiors were much better, but also seemed "fake" somehow.

Agreed.

I couldn't really get a handle on geography either. It was clear the Burgh was a psuedo-Europe, maybe a psuedo-Netherlands...and that Tiranoc was Ireland if it was as big as America? So weird.

Just not enough there. The Pucks, aside from the Faeries, received the most screentime and honestly they just weren't given enough interesting details until the very end and even that was more 'ooh, look at the strange creature naked' instead of 'wow, he can breathe fire and talk to animals!'.

[Anonymous]

Liked the world that the showrunners created and the issues it addressed. Orlando Bloom is okay. I remember first seeing him as Legolas in Lord of the Rings and he was so stunning! But since then I think he is serviceable as an actor, not brilliant. The actress who plays Vignette was definitely striking and I look forward to seeing her in other roles.

I guess what I liked about the series is recognizing the racial/ethnic/immigration issues. Oh yeah, this corresponds to that in real life. Life is really hard now for refugees and immigrants in the United States and parts of Europe and the darkness we see in the show resonates so with the darkness these folks are experiencing now. Dark times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liked the world that the showrunners created and the issues it addressed. Orlando Bloom is okay. I remember first seeing him as Legolas in Lord of the Rings and he was so stunning! But since then I think he is serviceable as an actor, not brilliant. The actress who plays Vignette was definitely striking and I look forward to seeing her in other roles.

I guess what I liked about the series is recognizing the racial/ethnic/immigration issues. Oh yeah, this corresponds to that in real life. Life is really hard now for refugees and immigrants in the United States and parts of Europe and the darkness we see in the show resonates so with the darkness these folks are experiencing now. Dark times.

Bloom used to be hot. They did their utmost to conceal his beauty in this TV series and I have NO IDEA why. But he looked like he had an extra 20 pounds, bad facial hair, and a runny nose this entire production.

Yet, on-screen he had at least two lovers. So annoying.



Also, yes on the racial/immigrant issues. But I didn't like how they other-ized Agreus and to a lesser extent, Vignette. They're people and deserved the same dignity reserved for the other on-screen characters who were sexualized.

I noticed we never saw a clear shot of Jonah Breakspear's butt or Rycroft's awkward sex face.

Either everyone is treated like a porn star or no one is.

[Anonymous]

I keep checking commonsense media but it's not on there - how kid appropriate is this? 13 year old?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep checking commonsense media but it's not on there - how kid appropriate is this? 13 year old?

It's not. At all.

You can watch Jim Henson's The Dark Crystal on Netflix if you want fantasy and kid-friendly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep checking commonsense media but it's not on there - how kid appropriate is this? 13 year old?

Definitely R-rate with sex and nudity. I think I would have loved it as a 13 year old, but it's not something I would offer my own kid at that age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I keep checking commonsense media but it's not on there - how kid appropriate is this? 13 year old?

Definitely R-rate with sex and nudity. I think I would have loved it as a 13 year old, but it's not something I would offer my own kid at that age.

OK, good to know! She's searching for a show we can watch and the 1 promo I saw looked good. Too busy with start of school year stuff to look into it. Thanks DCUM. ( and yep, I will take the word of two anonymous posters on DCUM for right now).

[Anonymous]

Some of the scenes are so badly written - cliched scenes we've all witnessed a hundred times before

man has injury - so woman says "you should have someone take a look at that, you might need stitches"

man says "no doctors!" and loses temper

hello? I have seen that a gazillion times and it doesn't improve with repetition.

That they spent all the money on costumes and effects and two very good actors is not a good enough reason for a shabby old script.

In my opinion.