Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:55 pages and I'd be curious to know how many of these posts are placing the blame squarely where it belongs (with the suspect) and how many are faulting the residents of the house.

Why do people keep saying this is victim blaming? They are NOT to blame. Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks of bad things happening is not blaming. It does not mean you deserve what happens.

I don't walk through dark alleys alone at night. Is it my fault if I'm robbed or killed? Of course not! But there are steps I can take to reduce the risk of a bad outcome so that hopefully I don't become a victim.

If he was stalking at least one of these girls chances are no matter what they did it wouldn't matter. BUT as a general principle I still lock my door when I leave my house. I don't deserve to be robbed and am not to blame if some breaks in, but I can reduce that risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:55 pages and I'd be curious to know how many of these posts are placing the blame squarely where it belongs (with the suspect) and how many are faulting the residents of the house.

Why do people keep saying this is victim blaming? They are NOT to blame. Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks of bad things happening is not blaming. It does not mean you deserve what happens.

I don't walk through dark alleys alone at night. Is it my fault if I'm robbed or killed? Of course not! But there are steps I can take to reduce the risk of a bad outcome so that hopefully I don't become a victim.

If he was stalking at least one of these girls chances are no matter what they did it wouldn't matter. BUT as a general principle I still lock my door when I leave my house. I don't deserve to be robbed and am not to blame if some breaks in, but I can reduce that risk.

Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks IN THIS THREAD implies that the people in the home could have done something (locked doors, called the police immediately, lived on campus, not partied, not had public Insta accounts, installed security if they were aware they had a stalker) to prevent this from happening.

That's why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:55 pages and I'd be curious to know how many of these posts are placing the blame squarely where it belongs (with the suspect) and how many are faulting the residents of the house.

Why do people keep saying this is victim blaming? They are NOT to blame. Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks of bad things happening is not blaming. It does not mean you deserve what happens.

I don't walk through dark alleys alone at night. Is it my fault if I'm robbed or killed? Of course not! But there are steps I can take to reduce the risk of a bad outcome so that hopefully I don't become a victim.

If he was stalking at least one of these girls chances are no matter what they did it wouldn't matter. BUT as a general principle I still lock my door when I leave my house. I don't deserve to be robbed and am not to blame if some breaks in, but I can reduce that risk.

Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks IN THIS THREAD implies that the people in the home could have done something (locked doors, called the police immediately, lived on campus, not partied, not had public Insta accounts, installed security if they were aware they had a stalker) to prevent this from happening.

That's why.

Insta literally causes many teen suicides, especially among girls.

It’s also a major platform for cyber-bullying.

I hope no one here uses that wretched form of social. Letting kids use it is negligent.

[Anonymous]

Just because someone has a certain surname doesn’t mean they are practicing. It could’ve been obtained via a grandparent during adoption, anything. What a strange topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because someone has a certain surname doesn’t mean they are practicing. It could’ve been obtained via a grandparent during adoption, anything. What a strange topic.

Or marriage. Being adopted is irrelevant. Many kids don't or do practice the religion of the home they were raised in.

Not sure why you included that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:55 pages and I'd be curious to know how many of these posts are placing the blame squarely where it belongs (with the suspect) and how many are faulting the residents of the house.

Why do people keep saying this is victim blaming? They are NOT to blame. Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks of bad things happening is not blaming. It does not mean you deserve what happens.

I don't walk through dark alleys alone at night. Is it my fault if I'm robbed or killed? Of course not! But there are steps I can take to reduce the risk of a bad outcome so that hopefully I don't become a victim.

If he was stalking at least one of these girls chances are no matter what they did it wouldn't matter. BUT as a general principle I still lock my door when I leave my house. I don't deserve to be robbed and am not to blame if some breaks in, but I can reduce that risk.

Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks IN THIS THREAD implies that the people in the home could have done something (locked doors, called the police immediately, lived on campus, not partied, not had public Insta accounts, installed security if they were aware they had a stalker) to prevent this from happening.

That's why.

You aren't good at nuance. Victim blaming is literally saying "it's their fault they were murdered." Nobody has said that here. Nobody.

The nuance you're missing is this: in discussions about this crime, people are asking why they wouldn't have locked their doors, why the survivor didn't call the police, etc. Posters are discussing the household dynamics as a way of answering those questions. These discussions are a way to make sense of things.

These discussions will most likely get young people to start locking their doors. Maybe it will get roommates to communicate with each other about houseguests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:55 pages and I'd be curious to know how many of these posts are placing the blame squarely where it belongs (with the suspect) and how many are faulting the residents of the house.

Why do people keep saying this is victim blaming? They are NOT to blame. Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks of bad things happening is not blaming. It does not mean you deserve what happens.

I don't walk through dark alleys alone at night. Is it my fault if I'm robbed or killed? Of course not! But there are steps I can take to reduce the risk of a bad outcome so that hopefully I don't become a victim.

If he was stalking at least one of these girls chances are no matter what they did it wouldn't matter. BUT as a general principle I still lock my door when I leave my house. I don't deserve to be robbed and am not to blame if some breaks in, but I can reduce that risk.

Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks IN THIS THREAD implies that the people in the home could have done something (locked doors, called the police immediately, lived on campus, not partied, not had public Insta accounts, installed security if they were aware they had a stalker) to prevent this from happening.

That's why.

You aren't good at nuance. Victim blaming is literally saying "it's their fault they were murdered." Nobody has said that here. Nobody.

The nuance you're missing is this: in discussions about this crime, people are asking why they wouldn't have locked their doors, why the survivor didn't call the police, etc. Posters are discussing the household dynamics as a way of answering those questions. These discussions are a way to make sense of things.

These discussions will most likely get young people to start locking their doors. Maybe it will get roommates to communicate with each other about houseguests.

Of course. All those college students browsing DCUM for safety tips. Hugely helpful.

[Anonymous]

You’d think a house like that would at least have a Ring camera. As a landlord I’d like to know what’s going on.

[Anonymous]

Insta? Do you mean Instagram?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’d think a house like that would at least have a Ring camera. As a landlord I’d like to know what’s going on.

On the sliding patio door?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most crime is mostly just being at the wrong place at the wrong time .. when some psycho sees you out somewhere, stalks you, and come hell or high water, they will find you and do what they want. If they can’t break into your house bc of a deadbolt, trust the they will find some opportunity or moment.

No, most violent crimes are committed by people the victim knows, often intimately. Murders like this account for an insignificant percentage of killings. The person most likely to murder a woman is her boyfriend or husband.

Cases like this get media attention because they're so unusual and rare.

But I think stalkers are feeling like they have more of a "right" with social media and other sites being available. What stalkers do not have (among other things) first and foremost, are boundaries - which changes the equation from a normal human to a dangerous person.

BK targeted one or two of the girls from the restaurant at which they worked, most likely. I believe they never exchanged more than professional pleasantries with him, but he likely over heard their conversations while at work. He may have gleaned information about them that way. People should be able to talk (for example) and lead a normal life, without worrying about some mentally ill incel coming after them - or in this case, killing them.

Wait - is he Jewish?? This can’t be. Maybe he really is innocent, if so? There’s never been a Jewish serial killer.

Could also be of German decent. We have Midwestern friends of German descent (common there) with similar sounding names who are not only not Jewish, but had never even met a Jewish person prior to moving to the east coast (I’m Jewish.) anyway, there have been Jewish serial killers. Wasn’t the summer of sam murderer Jewish?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most crime is mostly just being at the wrong place at the wrong time .. when some psycho sees you out somewhere, stalks you, and come hell or high water, they will find you and do what they want. If they can’t break into your house bc of a deadbolt, trust the they will find some opportunity or moment.

No, most violent crimes are committed by people the victim knows, often intimately. Murders like this account for an insignificant percentage of killings. The person most likely to murder a woman is her boyfriend or husband.

Cases like this get media attention because they're so unusual and rare.

But I think stalkers are feeling like they have more of a "right" with social media and other sites being available. What stalkers do not have (among other things) first and foremost, are boundaries - which changes the equation from a normal human to a dangerous person.

BK targeted one or two of the girls from the restaurant at which they worked, most likely. I believe they never exchanged more than professional pleasantries with him, but he likely over heard their conversations while at work. He may have gleaned information about them that way. People should be able to talk (for example) and lead a normal life, without worrying about some mentally ill incel coming after them - or in this case, killing them.

Son of Sam and evangelical Christian he found Christ of course.

Wait - is he Jewish?? This can’t be. Maybe he really is innocent, if so? There’s never been a Jewish serial killer.

Could also be of German decent. We have Midwestern friends of German descent (common there) with similar sounding names who are not only not Jewish, but had never even met a Jewish person prior to moving to the east coast (I’m Jewish.) anyway, there have been Jewish serial killers. Wasn’t the summer of sam murderer Jewish?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most crime is mostly just being at the wrong place at the wrong time .. when some psycho sees you out somewhere, stalks you, and come hell or high water, they will find you and do what they want. If they can’t break into your house bc of a deadbolt, trust the they will find some opportunity or moment.

No, most violent crimes are committed by people the victim knows, often intimately. Murders like this account for an insignificant percentage of killings. The person most likely to murder a woman is her boyfriend or husband.

Cases like this get media attention because they're so unusual and rare.

But I think stalkers are feeling like they have more of a "right" with social media and other sites being available. What stalkers do not have (among other things) first and foremost, are boundaries - which changes the equation from a normal human to a dangerous person.

BK targeted one or two of the girls from the restaurant at which they worked, most likely. I believe they never exchanged more than professional pleasantries with him, but he likely over heard their conversations while at work. He may have gleaned information about them that way. People should be able to talk (for example) and lead a normal life, without worrying about some mentally ill incel coming after them - or in this case, killing them.

Wait - is he Jewish?? This can’t be. Maybe he really is innocent, if so? There’s never been a Jewish serial killer.

Could also be of German decent. We have Midwestern friends of German descent (common there) with similar sounding names who are not only not Jewish, but had never even met a Jewish person prior to moving to the east coast (I’m Jewish.) anyway, there have been Jewish serial killers. Wasn’t the summer of sam murderer Jewish?

Yes, David Berkowitz was Jewish.

[Anonymous]

Not that the murderer’s religion has any bearing on anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:55 pages and I'd be curious to know how many of these posts are placing the blame squarely where it belongs (with the suspect) and how many are faulting the residents of the house.

Why do people keep saying this is victim blaming? They are NOT to blame. Having conversations about ways to reduce your risks of bad things happening is not blaming. It does not mean you deserve what happens.

I don't walk through dark alleys alone at night. Is it my fault if I'm robbed or killed? Of course not! But there are steps I can take to reduce the risk of a bad outcome so that hopefully I don't become a victim.

If he was stalking at least one of these girls chances are no matter what they did it wouldn't matter. BUT as a general principle I still lock my door when I leave my house. I don't deserve to be robbed and am not to blame if some breaks in, but I can reduce that risk.

+1 Thank you for your commonsense expressed here.