Ilhan Omar and MN campaign finance ruling

[Anonymous]

Ilhan Omar has been ordered to pay almost $4000 for campaign finance violations. The orders are listed here. This isn't a huge amount of money.


What I find curious is this part....


The report claims that @IlhanMN and Ahmed Hirsi filed joint tax returns in at least 2014-2015.

Yet she was legally married to another man from 2009-2017.

In 2009, Omar engaged in a civil marriage with Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a British citizen, but they separated in 2011 (without obtaining a legal divorce), and Elmi returned to England.

In 2017, Omar formally petitioned for divorce from Elmi, whose last known location — according to Omar’s statement as recorded in Minnesota court records — was in London as of 2011. Also in 2017, Omar reconciled with Hirsi, and they officially wed in 2018.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/

How can this be?

[Anonymous]

Yikes! This is really awful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ilhan Omar has been ordered to pay almost $4000 for campaign finance violations. The orders are listed here. This isn't a huge amount of money.


What I find curious is this part....


The report claims that @IlhanMN and Ahmed Hirsi filed joint tax returns in at least 2014-2015.

Yet she was legally married to another man from 2009-2017.

In 2009, Omar engaged in a civil marriage with Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a British citizen, but they separated in 2011 (without obtaining a legal divorce), and Elmi returned to England.

In 2017, Omar formally petitioned for divorce from Elmi, whose last known location — according to Omar’s statement as recorded in Minnesota court records — was in London as of 2011. Also in 2017, Omar reconciled with Hirsi, and they officially wed in 2018.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/

How can this be?

Just read the linked Snopes article and it exposes yet another grotesque right wing conspiracy theory smear job against her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ilhan Omar has been ordered to pay almost $4000 for campaign finance violations. The orders are listed here. This isn't a huge amount of money.


What I find curious is this part....


The report claims that @IlhanMN and Ahmed Hirsi filed joint tax returns in at least 2014-2015.

Yet she was legally married to another man from 2009-2017.

In 2009, Omar engaged in a civil marriage with Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a British citizen, but they separated in 2011 (without obtaining a legal divorce), and Elmi returned to England.

In 2017, Omar formally petitioned for divorce from Elmi, whose last known location — according to Omar’s statement as recorded in Minnesota court records — was in London as of 2011. Also in 2017, Omar reconciled with Hirsi, and they officially wed in 2018.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ilhan-omar-marry-brother/

How can this be?

Just read the linked Snopes article and it exposes yet another grotesque right wing conspiracy theory smear job against her.

So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

It is very revealing that you are suggesting that she was possibly married to her brother. Is there anything negative you won't believe about a Muslim?

For what it is worth -- likely very little if this poster is representative -- here is how Omar has explained her complicated personal life:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

It is very revealing that you are suggesting that she was possibly married to her brother. Is there anything negative you won't believe about a Muslim?

For what it is worth -- likely very little if this poster is representative -- here is how Omar has explained her complicated personal life:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

I have not suggested she was married to her brother.
I am wondering how she can file a joint tax return with one man while being married to another.
And, contrary to your accusation, Mr. Steele, this story is about one person in particular - Ilhan Omar. It has nothing to do with her religion or her beliefs.

Do you have an explanation as to how she can file a joint return with a man who she is not married to?

[Anonymous]

In her statement (which is not dated), she mentions that she was divorced from both of these men in their "faith tradition." The only one that she mentions being legally married to is the one from Britain. So, unless it occurred after this statement, she is not legally married to Hirsi.

It seems to me that she liberally uses the term for marriage and divorce "in her faith tradition." She said in this statement that she is still legally married to the Brit--but is married (or reconciled) "in her faith tradition" to the father of her children--with whom she had earlier been married "in her faith tradition" but not legally.

Pretty confusing.

[Anonymous]

Ilhan Omar Derangement Syndrome is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ilhan Omar Derangement Syndrome is real.

So, you don't think the fact that she has been required to pay for campaign finance violations AND that there appears to be a discrepancy in her IRS filings to be news?

[Anonymous]

Married to one man while filing joint tax returns with another is not a problem?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

It is very revealing that you are suggesting that she was possibly married to her brother. Is there anything negative you won't believe about a Muslim?

For what it is worth -- likely very little if this poster is representative -- here is how Omar has explained her complicated personal life:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

Seems pretty clear to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

It is very revealing that you are suggesting that she was possibly married to her brother. Is there anything negative you won't believe about a Muslim?

For what it is worth -- likely very little if this poster is representative -- here is how Omar has explained her complicated personal life:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

Seems pretty clear to me.

Yup. Pretty clear she was living with one man while married to another. And, apparently filed a joint tax return with the man she was living with. ( I guess that is why she keeps saying she divorced "in her faith tradition." Don't think the IRS would recognize that.

2002 she established a relationship with the father of her children. She never legally married him.
2008 she divorced "in her faith tradition" from this man.
2009 she legally married another man (a British citizen).
2011 she divorced her legal husband in "our faith tradition." Not a legal divorce.
2011 reconciled with her first 'husband" to whom she was not legally married. She married him in "her faith tradition."

So, are her "faith tradition" marriage and divorces Sharia? If so, I thought that she was not trying to establish Sharia in the US.

Since she did not state the date on her statement, I'm not sure what her current status is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

It is very revealing that you are suggesting that she was possibly married to her brother. Is there anything negative you won't believe about a Muslim?

For what it is worth -- likely very little if this poster is representative -- here is how Omar has explained her complicated personal life:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

Seems pretty clear to me.

Yup. Pretty clear she was living with one man while married to another. And, apparently filed a joint tax return with the man she was living with. ( I guess that is why she keeps saying she divorced "in her faith tradition." Don't think the IRS would recognize that.

2002 she established a relationship with the father of her children. She never legally married him.
2008 she divorced "in her faith tradition" from this man.
2009 she legally married another man (a British citizen).
2011 she divorced her legal husband in "our faith tradition." Not a legal divorce.
2011 reconciled with her first 'husband" to whom she was not legally married. She married him in "her faith tradition."

So, are her "faith tradition" marriage and divorces Sharia? If so, I thought that she was not trying to establish Sharia in the US.

Since she did not state the date on her statement, I'm not sure what her current status is.

Ilhan Derangement Syndrome is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

It is very revealing that you are suggesting that she was possibly married to her brother. Is there anything negative you won't believe about a Muslim?

For what it is worth -- likely very little if this poster is representative -- here is how Omar has explained her complicated personal life:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

Seems pretty clear to me.

Yup. Pretty clear she was living with one man while married to another. And, apparently filed a joint tax return with the man she was living with. ( I guess that is why she keeps saying she divorced "in her faith tradition." Don't think the IRS would recognize that.

2002 she established a relationship with the father of her children. She never legally married him.
2008 she divorced "in her faith tradition" from this man.
2009 she legally married another man (a British citizen).
2011 she divorced her legal husband in "our faith tradition." Not a legal divorce.
2011 reconciled with her first 'husband" to whom she was not legally married. She married him in "her faith tradition."

So, are her "faith tradition" marriage and divorces Sharia? If so, I thought that she was not trying to establish Sharia in the US.

Since she did not state the date on her statement, I'm not sure what her current status is.

And... you would be wrong about the IRS. There is no one federal definition of marriage. So the IRS lets you married filing jointly if your state considers you married. So, marriage to the IRS is whatever the state you live in defines it as. And many states recognize common law marriage— marriages without a ceremony, or marriage certificate or any involvement from the state at all. Different states have different requirements— some require living together for some length of time, or considering yourself married or holding yourself out as married. And once you have a common law marriage, if you move, other states will recognize it. Full faith and credit.

So yeah— if she lived in a common law state in 2011 or later, considered herself married in her faith, and held herself out as married, she could legally file taxes with the IRS. And later clean up the paper trail. Because she ran for office and Fox News.

Speaking of Fox News. Sometimes things in life and the law are complicated. Just because Fox News gives you a solution that an 80 IQ can grasp doesn’t mean it’s the right answer. People specialize in family law, because sometimes things like this are, in fact, complicated.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if she was married to one man, how can she file a joint tax return (for at least 2 years) with a different man?
(and, BTW - the Snopes article indicates the theory is unproven)

It is very revealing that you are suggesting that she was possibly married to her brother. Is there anything negative you won't believe about a Muslim?

For what it is worth -- likely very little if this poster is representative -- here is how Omar has explained her complicated personal life:

https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/Ilhan%20Omar%20Statement.pdf

Could you clarify: if Omar married in her faith based tradition before legally divorcing her husband, will she have to re-marry her new husband in a civil ceremony? I ask because it sounds like her faith based divorce was not legal.