telling micromanaging boss about doctors appointments

[Anonymous]

how do you give heads up about doctors appointments when your boss is petty and micromanaging? how do you phrase it in emails and how far in advance?

[Anonymous]

You can put it on your outlook calendar (include travel time). Title: first name/last name, dr appointment, out of the office. And invite your boss to it.
I ask my direct reports to do it that way. Not to micromanage but to make sure I'm not expecting them to respond to an urgent task if they are not there. I prefer a couple weeks notice for things that are more than a couple hours.
I do the same thing for any time I'll be of the office invite all the managers that report to me to the event so it shows up on their calendar (long dr appt, day off, full day meeting offsite etc).

[mjsmith]

two weeks notice for any scheduled leave, like Dr's visit or vacation

Option 1
4/16/19
Mr boss,

I have a Dr appointment scheduled for Wed may 1 @ 10am.
I'll be using one of my paid leave days for this.

me

Option 2
4/16/19
Mr Boss

I'm taking a scheduled paid leave day on May 1

Me

Option 3
4/16/19
Mr Boss

On may 1 I have Dr appoint at 4pm. I'll be working a half day in the morning and departing after lunch.

Me

What is the company policy on scheduled leave? If boss denies your scheduled leave ask for a reason why. At some point, you will have to take time off, so he can't deny you the time off forever.

[Anonymous]

Two WEEKS notice to go to the Doctor?

I'd find another job.

[Anonymous]

When I worked for a micro manager, she wanted PTO use to be REQUESTED - not informed, so the following. It's not my way as a manager - I prefer that you just put it on my calendar (as FREE so it doesn't show that I'm out) because I can't remember everyone's everything & it helps.

Hi Larla,

I have a medical appointment on May 1st at noon. I'd like to use PTO in the morning and work remotely in the afternoon if that is okay. Please let me know if you have any concerns.

[mjsmith]

Anonymous wrote:Two WEEKS notice to go to the Doctor?

I'd find another job.

my current employer wants two weeks notice for scheduled paid leave, has had several others that ive worked for. So I feel its pretty common, IMO

if you have an emergency, it become unscheduled paid leave. then you just call in "hey I can't make it in today I've got an emergency Dr Visit, sorry, please use paid sick leave"


usually its going to be about two weeks out for a Dr to schedule you a non emergency appointment.

[Anonymous]

"Requesting sick leave for monday.

Taking wife to scheduled screening colonoscopy visit.
"

NOBODY would make that up.

[Anonymous]

mjsmith wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two WEEKS notice to go to the Doctor?

I'd find another job.

my current employer wants two weeks notice for scheduled paid leave, has had several others that ive worked for. So I feel its pretty common, IMO

if you have an emergency, it become unscheduled paid leave. then you just call in "hey I can't make it in today I've got an emergency Dr Visit, sorry, please use paid sick leave"


usually its going to be about two weeks out for a Dr to schedule you a non emergency appointment.

Well, I guess I hit the doctor AND job lottery. I can almost always get a Dr. appointment within 48 hours of a call, unless it's something that has to be done by a specialist. And I tell my job whenever I tell them. I don't schedule appointments when I have work commitments like meetings or presentations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I worked for a micro manager, she wanted PTO use to be REQUESTED - not informed, so the following. It's not my way as a manager - I prefer that you just put it on my calendar (as FREE so it doesn't show that I'm out) because I can't remember everyone's everything & it helps.

Hi Larla,

I have a medical appointment on May 1st at noon. I'd like to use PTO in the morning and work remotely in the afternoon if that is okay. Please let me know if you have any concerns.

I worked for a company where technically we were supposed to request it from our boss via email (so there would be a record of the request).

[Anonymous]

PP here. And the boss had to approve via email so tehre was a record of the approval.

[Anonymous]

I've only had one boss like this. She was a complete nightmare for a multitude of reasons, but the medical stuff ended up being okay. This was good, because I started IF treatments while working for her.

I would just email her that I had a doctor's appointment, and I would be gone from X-Y o'clock. I think that at the beginning, I sent her a note telling her I was having some "medical stuff, but nothing to worry about" that would require frequent doctor appointments over the next several weeks. She never pried or said anything except acknowledging the email and saying ok.

While pretty much every other boss I've had was flexible in general, I have held a few position where the job itself frequently required me to be places at times that I couldn't control (and often last minute). I had to keep my boss apprised of medical stuff just so he knew where I was (and I went through several different medical problems at that job). He also never asked for details. The only thing he did was once tell me that unless I had the best doctor on earth who never kept me waiting, I had blocked an unrealistic amount of time for a medical appointment and I should not commit to getting back for some meeting or another that was supposed to be right after it (and he was right).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I worked for a micro manager, she wanted PTO use to be REQUESTED - not informed, so the following. It's not my way as a manager - I prefer that you just put it on my calendar (as FREE so it doesn't show that I'm out) because I can't remember everyone's everything & it helps.

Hi Larla,

I have a medical appointment on May 1st at noon. I'd like to use PTO in the morning and work remotely in the afternoon if that is okay. Please let me know if you have any concerns.

I worked for a company where technically we were supposed to request it from our boss via email (so there would be a record of the request).

We are supposed to request by email, too. Used to be we had to request from two separate people. Now just one. Luckily it's almost never a problem, but it is irritating not just being able to put in for the time off in the system.

In this situation I think I would send an email to my boss saying: Hi Larla - I've got a doctor's appointment scheduled for May 15 at 2pm. I'll have to leave at 1:30 to get there, and should be back at the computer by 3:30. I've put that in our team calendar - just let me know if there's a conflict so I can reschedule.

[Anonymous]

If you don’t have a set policy or practice, I’d ask my boss what their practice/preference is for notification.

[Anonymous]

My government agency just switched to asking us to request leave (or that was the policy but it wasn’t enforced). My managers have been somewhat apologetic that we now have to ask.

I phrase my emails as “dear x, I just scheduled a doctor’s appointment for Monday from 3-4. It’s on my calendar. Is this okay? Please confirm or let me know if you’d prefer me to reschedule. Thanks!” (So far I’ve never been asked to move it. There have been times other things come up and I choose to move appointments.)

[Anonymous]

There is a difference between telling and asking, and the culture in your organization determines whether you tell or ask. I'm at an organization where you tell. It sounds like you have a boss where you ask/tell so you provide notice and also anticipate rebuttals. Mr. Larlo, I need to take 1/2 day leave beginning at 12:30 p.m. on Friday, 4/19/19, for a doctor's appointment. Before I leave I will have x, y and z accomplished. Please let me know if you have any concerns. I always give a set time so that when I walk out the door no one is surprised. In this situation, I would give it as 1 week notice because a big micro-manager may find too much for you to do if she or he has two weeks to plan it out!