Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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The DCC parents will never be on the same page or satisfied. So contentious.

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all the "my taxes" wackos who don't understand the point of public education, trolls and racists chiming in here, the real problem is that MCPS has not asked anyone what they actually want. Whitman wants a high SES, super white school? Great. Let them have it. I am happy to have a racially and ethnically diverse (formerly DCC) school, with undocumented (tax-paying) immigrants and super cool, interesting special programs. Stop trying to distribute the special programs equally - give the poor schools the more interesting programs and let Whitman fund its own private theater programs and soccer teams with PTSA/Booster funds.

Agree. And don’t bother doing a region with DCC schools and Whitman. It’s silly and tone death. Some of us could live and go to Whitman and choose other areas to avoid that kind of school.

+1 Ithe people clamoring to go to Whitman do not live in the DCC

Sometimes I think the lady doth protests too much. You could’ve just left it with the fact that people generally self-segregate into similar socioeconomic groups instead of trying to take a swipe at Whitman with your weird virtue signaling. Fun fact. It’s not some badge of honor to live in a poor or lower class area and your kind of attitude usually gets met with an eye roll.

Wait, in order to not "virtue signal" I have to be striving to live somewhere other than where I currently live? I can't just be happy where I am?

It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area.

GMAFB, everyone who paid a premium to get their kids into a W school was making a downward comparison to other schools.

I attended Whitman and wanted a different environment for my child. We all make choices based on what we think is best for our kids. Sorry my choice makes you feel insecure about your choice.

DP from who you are responding to. The issue is wanting higher-FARMS schools to cater to minority (your) needs while saying you can afford a place that would provide you with what you want. I get that there are different aspects that go into choosing where you live, and vibe is one. You chose the vibe of where you live over the (easier) access to the things you want in schools.

The story is different for people who do not have the financial resources to access the schools with what they want.

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all the "my taxes" wackos who don't understand the point of public education, trolls and racists chiming in here, the real problem is that MCPS has not asked anyone what they actually want. Whitman wants a high SES, super white school? Great. Let them have it. I am happy to have a racially and ethnically diverse (formerly DCC) school, with undocumented (tax-paying) immigrants and super cool, interesting special programs. Stop trying to distribute the special programs equally - give the poor schools the more interesting programs and let Whitman fund its own private theater programs and soccer teams with PTSA/Booster funds.

Agree. And don’t bother doing a region with DCC schools and Whitman. It’s silly and tone death. Some of us could live and go to Whitman and choose other areas to avoid that kind of school.

+1 Ithe people clamoring to go to Whitman do not live in the DCC

Sometimes I think the lady doth protests too much. You could’ve just left it with the fact that people generally self-segregate into similar socioeconomic groups instead of trying to take a swipe at Whitman with your weird virtue signaling. Fun fact. It’s not some badge of honor to live in a poor or lower class area and your kind of attitude usually gets met with an eye roll.

Wait, in order to not "virtue signal" I have to be striving to live somewhere other than where I currently live? I can't just be happy where I am?

It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area.

GMAFB, everyone who paid a premium to get their kids into a W school was making a downward comparison to other schools.

I attended Whitman and wanted a different environment for my child. We all make choices based on what we think is best for our kids. Sorry my choice makes you feel insecure about your choice.

DP from who you are responding to. The issue is wanting higher-FARMS schools to cater to minority (your) needs while saying you can afford a place that would provide you with what you want. I get that there are different aspects that go into choosing where you live, and vibe is one. You chose the vibe of where you live over the (easier) access to the things you want in schools.

The story is different for people who do not have the financial resources to access the schools with what they want.

I happen to be perfectly fine with all schools offering up to Calculus BC, which is the current situation at Einstein. That being said, I find it hilarious you want to bash all Einstein parents because of one parent who is advocating for her child. Gmafb. Being whiny and demanding is the MO of wealthy Bethesda parents. Everyone knows this and you can call me mean because I said it out loud, but trust me I am not remotely the only one who thinks this.

In most schools the kids that do Calculus BC are the minority. Like I said I attended Whitman and guess what, most of the kids were not advanced in math.

Just like kids from high income families, kids from low income families can be academically behind, on grade level or advanced. Geography should not determine opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all the "my taxes" wackos who don't understand the point of public education, trolls and racists chiming in here, the real problem is that MCPS has not asked anyone what they actually want. Whitman wants a high SES, super white school? Great. Let them have it. I am happy to have a racially and ethnically diverse (formerly DCC) school, with undocumented (tax-paying) immigrants and super cool, interesting special programs. Stop trying to distribute the special programs equally - give the poor schools the more interesting programs and let Whitman fund its own private theater programs and soccer teams with PTSA/Booster funds.

Agree. And don’t bother doing a region with DCC schools and Whitman. It’s silly and tone death. Some of us could live and go to Whitman and choose other areas to avoid that kind of school.

+1 Ithe people clamoring to go to Whitman do not live in the DCC

Sometimes I think the lady doth protests too much. You could’ve just left it with the fact that people generally self-segregate into similar socioeconomic groups instead of trying to take a swipe at Whitman with your weird virtue signaling. Fun fact. It’s not some badge of honor to live in a poor or lower class area and your kind of attitude usually gets met with an eye roll.

Wait, in order to not "virtue signal" I have to be striving to live somewhere other than where I currently live? I can't just be happy where I am?

It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area.

GMAFB, everyone who paid a premium to get their kids into a W school was making a downward comparison to other schools.

I attended Whitman and wanted a different environment for my child. We all make choices based on what we think is best for our kids. Sorry my choice makes you feel insecure about your choice.

DP from who you are responding to. The issue is wanting higher-FARMS schools to cater to minority (your) needs while saying you can afford a place that would provide you with what you want. I get that there are different aspects that go into choosing where you live, and vibe is one. You chose the vibe of where you live over the (easier) access to the things you want in schools.

The story is different for people who do not have the financial resources to access the schools with what they want.

I happen to be perfectly fine with all schools offering up to Calculus BC, which is the current situation at Einstein. That being said, I find it hilarious you want to bash all Einstein parents because of one parent who is advocating for her child. Gmafb. Being whiny and demanding is the MO of wealthy Bethesda parents. Everyone knows this and you can call me mean because I said it out loud, but trust me I am not remotely the only one who thinks this.

In most schools the kids that do Calculus BC are the minority. Like I said I attended Whitman and guess what, most of the kids were not advanced in math.

Just like kids from high income families, kids from low income families can be academically behind, on grade level or advanced. Geography should not determine opportunity.

I did not bash all Einstein or even all DCC posters, just the ones who profess to being able to afford something better but not paying it bc they want the poorer schools to cater to them. If you do not fall in this category it wasn’t about you.

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all the "my taxes" wackos who don't understand the point of public education, trolls and racists chiming in here, the real problem is that MCPS has not asked anyone what they actually want. Whitman wants a high SES, super white school? Great. Let them have it. I am happy to have a racially and ethnically diverse (formerly DCC) school, with undocumented (tax-paying) immigrants and super cool, interesting special programs. Stop trying to distribute the special programs equally - give the poor schools the more interesting programs and let Whitman fund its own private theater programs and soccer teams with PTSA/Booster funds.

Agree. And don’t bother doing a region with DCC schools and Whitman. It’s silly and tone death. Some of us could live and go to Whitman and choose other areas to avoid that kind of school.

+1 Ithe people clamoring to go to Whitman do not live in the DCC

Sometimes I think the lady doth protests too much. You could’ve just left it with the fact that people generally self-segregate into similar socioeconomic groups instead of trying to take a swipe at Whitman with your weird virtue signaling. Fun fact. It’s not some badge of honor to live in a poor or lower class area and your kind of attitude usually gets met with an eye roll.

Wait, in order to not "virtue signal" I have to be striving to live somewhere other than where I currently live? I can't just be happy where I am?

It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area.

GMAFB, everyone who paid a premium to get their kids into a W school was making a downward comparison to other schools.

I attended Whitman and wanted a different environment for my child. We all make choices based on what we think is best for our kids. Sorry my choice makes you feel insecure about your choice.

DP from who you are responding to. The issue is wanting higher-FARMS schools to cater to minority (your) needs while saying you can afford a place that would provide you with what you want. I get that there are different aspects that go into choosing where you live, and vibe is one. You chose the vibe of where you live over the (easier) access to the things you want in schools.

The story is different for people who do not have the financial resources to access the schools with what they want.

I happen to be perfectly fine with all schools offering up to Calculus BC, which is the current situation at Einstein. That being said, I find it hilarious you want to bash all Einstein parents because of one parent who is advocating for her child. Gmafb. Being whiny and demanding is the MO of wealthy Bethesda parents. Everyone knows this and you can call me mean because I said it out loud, but trust me I am not remotely the only one who thinks this.

In most schools the kids that do Calculus BC are the minority. Like I said I attended Whitman and guess what, most of the kids were not advanced in math.

Just like kids from high income families, kids from low income families can be academically behind, on grade level or advanced. Geography should not determine opportunity.

I did not bash all Einstein or even all DCC posters, just the ones who profess to being able to afford something better but not paying it bc they want the poorer schools to cater to them. If you do not fall in this category it wasn’t about you.

Oh so when you (or someone else - I'm sure you'll deny it was you) said "It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area." it wasn't literally about me? It was about whomever you now claim it was about?

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all the "my taxes" wackos who don't understand the point of public education, trolls and racists chiming in here, the real problem is that MCPS has not asked anyone what they actually want. Whitman wants a high SES, super white school? Great. Let them have it. I am happy to have a racially and ethnically diverse (formerly DCC) school, with undocumented (tax-paying) immigrants and super cool, interesting special programs. Stop trying to distribute the special programs equally - give the poor schools the more interesting programs and let Whitman fund its own private theater programs and soccer teams with PTSA/Booster funds.

Agree. And don’t bother doing a region with DCC schools and Whitman. It’s silly and tone death. Some of us could live and go to Whitman and choose other areas to avoid that kind of school.

+1 Ithe people clamoring to go to Whitman do not live in the DCC

Sometimes I think the lady doth protests too much. You could’ve just left it with the fact that people generally self-segregate into similar socioeconomic groups instead of trying to take a swipe at Whitman with your weird virtue signaling. Fun fact. It’s not some badge of honor to live in a poor or lower class area and your kind of attitude usually gets met with an eye roll.

Wait, in order to not "virtue signal" I have to be striving to live somewhere other than where I currently live? I can't just be happy where I am?

It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area.

GMAFB, everyone who paid a premium to get their kids into a W school was making a downward comparison to other schools.

I attended Whitman and wanted a different environment for my child. We all make choices based on what we think is best for our kids. Sorry my choice makes you feel insecure about your choice.

DP from who you are responding to. The issue is wanting higher-FARMS schools to cater to minority (your) needs while saying you can afford a place that would provide you with what you want. I get that there are different aspects that go into choosing where you live, and vibe is one. You chose the vibe of where you live over the (easier) access to the things you want in schools.

The story is different for people who do not have the financial resources to access the schools with what they want.

I happen to be perfectly fine with all schools offering up to Calculus BC, which is the current situation at Einstein. That being said, I find it hilarious you want to bash all Einstein parents because of one parent who is advocating for her child. Gmafb. Being whiny and demanding is the MO of wealthy Bethesda parents. Everyone knows this and you can call me mean because I said it out loud, but trust me I am not remotely the only one who thinks this.

In most schools the kids that do Calculus BC are the minority. Like I said I attended Whitman and guess what, most of the kids were not advanced in math.

Just like kids from high income families, kids from low income families can be academically behind, on grade level or advanced. Geography should not determine opportunity.

Geography may not but supply and demand absolutely should determine what resources are available. And yes, that may mean there is a critical mass of demand to offer certain higher level resources at Whitman rather than certain other schools. To make sure every school offers exactly the same course offering as every other is the height of stupidity. It’s actually financially irresponsible.

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Also some of you seem to believe that because you have money, your kids deserve unearned advantages in their public education. Do you not think your parenting is good enough to get them ahead without hoarding extra space and programs and keeping them away from Black and Latino kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all the "my taxes" wackos who don't understand the point of public education, trolls and racists chiming in here, the real problem is that MCPS has not asked anyone what they actually want. Whitman wants a high SES, super white school? Great. Let them have it. I am happy to have a racially and ethnically diverse (formerly DCC) school, with undocumented (tax-paying) immigrants and super cool, interesting special programs. Stop trying to distribute the special programs equally - give the poor schools the more interesting programs and let Whitman fund its own private theater programs and soccer teams with PTSA/Booster funds.

Agree. And don’t bother doing a region with DCC schools and Whitman. It’s silly and tone death. Some of us could live and go to Whitman and choose other areas to avoid that kind of school.

+1 Ithe people clamoring to go to Whitman do not live in the DCC

Sometimes I think the lady doth protests too much. You could’ve just left it with the fact that people generally self-segregate into similar socioeconomic groups instead of trying to take a swipe at Whitman with your weird virtue signaling. Fun fact. It’s not some badge of honor to live in a poor or lower class area and your kind of attitude usually gets met with an eye roll.

Wait, in order to not "virtue signal" I have to be striving to live somewhere other than where I currently live? I can't just be happy where I am?

It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area.

GMAFB, everyone who paid a premium to get their kids into a W school was making a downward comparison to other schools.

I attended Whitman and wanted a different environment for my child. We all make choices based on what we think is best for our kids. Sorry my choice makes you feel insecure about your choice.

DP from who you are responding to. The issue is wanting higher-FARMS schools to cater to minority (your) needs while saying you can afford a place that would provide you with what you want. I get that there are different aspects that go into choosing where you live, and vibe is one. You chose the vibe of where you live over the (easier) access to the things you want in schools.

The story is different for people who do not have the financial resources to access the schools with what they want.

I happen to be perfectly fine with all schools offering up to Calculus BC, which is the current situation at Einstein. That being said, I find it hilarious you want to bash all Einstein parents because of one parent who is advocating for her child. Gmafb. Being whiny and demanding is the MO of wealthy Bethesda parents. Everyone knows this and you can call me mean because I said it out loud, but trust me I am not remotely the only one who thinks this.

In most schools the kids that do Calculus BC are the minority. Like I said I attended Whitman and guess what, most of the kids were not advanced in math.

Just like kids from high income families, kids from low income families can be academically behind, on grade level or advanced. Geography should not determine opportunity.

Geography may not but supply and demand absolutely should determine what resources are available. And yes, that may mean there is a critical mass of demand to offer certain higher level resources at Whitman rather than certain other schools. To make sure every school offers exactly the same course offering as every other is the height of stupidity. It’s actually financially irresponsible.

Oh the dumb consultant has arrived. You're falling into the short term thinking trap.

Inequities in opportunity hurt the economy. The most valuable resource we have is human capital. We are investing over a decade in educating each child enrolled in MCPS. While we can't provide bespoke classes for every single child, ensuring that all children can access advanced coursework to a certain level is really important. You want kids to grow up and make money and bring in tax dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:Also some of you seem to believe that because you have money, your kids deserve unearned advantages in their public education. Do you not think your parenting is good enough to get them ahead without hoarding extra space and programs and keeping them away from Black and Latino kids?

Hey Mother Teresa, you’re the one making racist assumptions. It’s not hoarding extra space and programs if the demand is there. It’s actually stupid to offer 100% of the same things across the county beyond a certain baseline. That’s a recipe for a huge misallocation of resources. But please enlighten me as to how I’m taking away resources from black and Latino kids. Fun fact, those “resources” are largely outside of school and parent driven based on the commitment that parents make to fund and support their schools.

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MVC is pretty bespoke.

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Anonymous wrote:Also some of you seem to believe that because you have money, your kids deserve unearned advantages in their public education. Do you not think your parenting is good enough to get them ahead without hoarding extra space and programs and keeping them away from Black and Latino kids?

Hey Mother Teresa, you’re the one making racist assumptions. It’s not hoarding extra space and programs if the demand is there. It’s actually stupid to offer 100% of the same things across the county beyond a certain baseline. That’s a recipe for a huge misallocation of resources. But please enlighten me as to how I’m taking away resources from black and Latino kids. Fun fact, those “resources” are largely outside of school and parent driven based on the commitment that parents make to fund and support their schools.

I read that PP as directed to the DCC parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Also some of you seem to believe that because you have money, your kids deserve unearned advantages in their public education. Do you not think your parenting is good enough to get them ahead without hoarding extra space and programs and keeping them away from Black and Latino kids?

This is aimed at DCC parents who say they can move but choose not to bc they like the area better, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Also some of you seem to believe that because you have money, your kids deserve unearned advantages in their public education. Do you not think your parenting is good enough to get them ahead without hoarding extra space and programs and keeping them away from Black and Latino kids?

This is aimed at DCC parents who say they can move but choose not to bc they like the area better, right?

No, our kids attend programs with Black and Latino kids. You seem to think that they are in segregated programs in the same school? They aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring all the "my taxes" wackos who don't understand the point of public education, trolls and racists chiming in here, the real problem is that MCPS has not asked anyone what they actually want. Whitman wants a high SES, super white school? Great. Let them have it. I am happy to have a racially and ethnically diverse (formerly DCC) school, with undocumented (tax-paying) immigrants and super cool, interesting special programs. Stop trying to distribute the special programs equally - give the poor schools the more interesting programs and let Whitman fund its own private theater programs and soccer teams with PTSA/Booster funds.

Agree. And don’t bother doing a region with DCC schools and Whitman. It’s silly and tone death. Some of us could live and go to Whitman and choose other areas to avoid that kind of school.

+1 Ithe people clamoring to go to Whitman do not live in the DCC

Sometimes I think the lady doth protests too much. You could’ve just left it with the fact that people generally self-segregate into similar socioeconomic groups instead of trying to take a swipe at Whitman with your weird virtue signaling. Fun fact. It’s not some badge of honor to live in a poor or lower class area and your kind of attitude usually gets met with an eye roll.

Wait, in order to not "virtue signal" I have to be striving to live somewhere other than where I currently live? I can't just be happy where I am?

It’s clear you’re not happy or satisfied when you need to try to make downward comparisons to wealthier area.

GMAFB, everyone who paid a premium to get their kids into a W school was making a downward comparison to other schools.

I attended Whitman and wanted a different environment for my child. We all make choices based on what we think is best for our kids. Sorry my choice makes you feel insecure about your choice.

DP from who you are responding to. The issue is wanting higher-FARMS schools to cater to minority (your) needs while saying you can afford a place that would provide you with what you want. I get that there are different aspects that go into choosing where you live, and vibe is one. You chose the vibe of where you live over the (easier) access to the things you want in schools.

The story is different for people who do not have the financial resources to access the schools with what they want.

I happen to be perfectly fine with all schools offering up to Calculus BC, which is the current situation at Einstein. That being said, I find it hilarious you want to bash all Einstein parents because of one parent who is advocating for her child. Gmafb. Being whiny and demanding is the MO of wealthy Bethesda parents. Everyone knows this and you can call me mean because I said it out loud, but trust me I am not remotely the only one who thinks this.

In most schools the kids that do Calculus BC are the minority. Like I said I attended Whitman and guess what, most of the kids were not advanced in math.

Just like kids from high income families, kids from low income families can be academically behind, on grade level or advanced. Geography should not determine opportunity.

Geography may not but supply and demand absolutely should determine what resources are available. And yes, that may mean there is a critical mass of demand to offer certain higher level resources at Whitman rather than certain other schools. To make sure every school offers exactly the same course offering as every other is the height of stupidity. It’s actually financially irresponsible.

Oh the dumb consultant has arrived. You're falling into the short term thinking trap.

Inequities in opportunity hurt the economy. The most valuable resource we have is human capital. We are investing over a decade in educating each child enrolled in MCPS. While we can't provide bespoke classes for every single child, ensuring that all children can access advanced coursework to a certain level is really important. You want kids to grow up and make money and bring in tax dollars.

Having access to it may mean applying to a different school or a magnet program in which a few might be mildly inconvenienced. I think we simply disagree regarding what is an acceptable baseline of resources that equates to opportunity.

But how about hearing my complaint? Instead of assuming that every child is going to succeed if we just have the will or money, we acknowledge the fact that children have natural talents beyond which no amount of additional resources will benefit. And we start identifying and focusing on maximizing those and track everyone accordingly. Is this elitist? Absolutely. Is it utilitarian? Yes. It would likely do the greatest amount of good for the greatest number of people rather than pretending that we’re all equal and teaching to the lowest common denominator.

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Anonymous wrote:Also some of you seem to believe that because you have money, your kids deserve unearned advantages in their public education. Do you not think your parenting is good enough to get them ahead without hoarding extra space and programs and keeping them away from Black and Latino kids?

This is aimed at DCC parents who say they can move but choose not to bc they like the area better, right?

No, our kids attend programs with Black and Latino kids. You seem to think that they are in segregated programs in the same school? They aren't.

This is logically inconsistent, then. Your school is not segregated within the school and therefore your demand for specific classes is not taking resources from Black and Brown kids, but if it happens at the level of the school then that IS taking resources?