Lochte Robbery Story: True or False

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Anonymous wrote:I, like many regulars on DCUM, am a licensed attorney. Robbery is a specific intent crime. You must have the specific intent to 'steal that which is not yours by threats of violence'. In this case, the security officers were seeking payment for the damage to the gas station. That was there INTENT for legal purposes. There WAS NO ROBBERY under US law. I cannot speak to Brazilian law.

They negotiated a deal with these people. There was no 'robbery'. As a lawyer, it is laughable to hear the repeated chanting of this when there is NO legal basis for it. NONE.


In the US, you cannot put a gun to a creditors head and say give me your f-ing wallet. That is ARMED ROBBERY.



Ever heard of a bounty hunter? Please, don't keep piping up about that which have such a feeble understanding.


That is a totally different scenario. They help bring people to justice.
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Anonymous wrote:All the publicity coaching advice is very interesting to read, but everything I have ever read or seen of Ryan Lochte indicates that he is genuinely a very unintelligent person. He seems to have only a rudimentary understanding of cause-effect and every time he tries to express himself it comes out as meandering, incomprehensible drivel that has only a tangential relationship to the English language. Giving PR advice to someone is useless if they can't absorb and apply it. Talking to someone about their word choice only helps if they have the vocabulary to make that choice. I'm sure he has plenty of strengths in other areas but he makes Michael Phelps look like a Rhodes Scholar.


Stfu. You mean to tell mean Lochte isn't smart?!

You may be even dumber than he is. Do you not see that everyone is already shaming him for being dumb?

(For real though, I have family with mental challenges; can we stop with shaming people because they aren't smart?)
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Anonymous wrote:Recap for those who haven't heard: Ryan Lochte & three other US Olympic swim team members were allegedly robbed at gun point Sunday evening. Now a Brazil judge has issued an order to seize Lochte & Feigen's passports, as Brazil want to hold both for further questioning.

Lochte's attorney says he is already back in the US and has no plans to return for follow up questioning.

Do you think the account was made up? I can't figure out a motive, and think it's odd that FOUR individuals would be in on a false account. At the same time it seems quite coincidental that out of all of the athletes, this happened to Lochte.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/17/sport/olympics-ryan-lochte-robbery-questions/



FALSE - Embarrassing drunk frat boy behavior. And I mean BOY behavior not behavior of a 32 year old man. Why lie? No one would have even known about incident if Lochte didn't lie. I can't believe people on this forum are trying to defend his behavior or justify. Would they do this if it were any of the AA track and field men pissing all over and tearing down signs.


First of all, men in every country do piss outside if they can't find a bathroom. Fact of life.

Second, if AA athletes pissed outside and tore down a sign (even if they embellished about it!), and then got pulled off a plane in Rio and were not allowed to go home? You're absolutely crazy if you don't think Americans would be up in arms, demanding their return.


News flash. Pissing outside on private property you will receive a ticket if caught. I am sure each country has their own set of rules. Regardless wherever you are it's inappropriate behavior but I believe it was the destruction of property that created the problem. I am not defending the security guards behavior anymore than I would defend a US police officer for using unnecessary force when the situation is not called for. But you can't just behave badly in another
country. Pulling the men off the planes for false testimony or needing to interview further for their own investigation is not uncommon. Also, Lochte and the other swimmers said there wasn't a gun pointed at his head. Lesson learned watch your behavior in another country, your rights are not the same as if you were in US.


So, the main thing I'm loving here is how confident you are! Sounds like you got it figured out more than probably almost anyone!

Men usually don't get a ticket for pissing outside. Even if they did, it usually wouldn't be paid at gunpoint.

I wonder how many PPs actually live in DC. I have seen many men piss outside and commit minor vandalism (including black men). No consequences!


I actually know several men who have been ticketed for urinating in public, and we aren't talking super public, but side of the alley in the dark type of thing. In all cases, cop just happened to be nearby. All in the DC area.

That said, all you get here is a ticket. It's like $35 or something.
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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a publicist, I would NEVER have allowed Ryan to do this interview. At least not yet. He didn't need to "explain himself" to the public or to his sponsors - not like this. There was absolutely no need for him to take more time away from other Olympians and the end of the Olympic games. The proper protocol would have been for him to wait until AFTER the games, as he has already taken so much away from the games and other competitors. So much air time has been devoted to covering his shenanigans, that he just should've laid low for a few more days.

He was also completely unprepared and you can tell he had absolutely no media training prior to this. This is what happens when you use a lawyer for your crisis PR needs instead of pairing the lawyer up with a true publicist who is experienced in this realm. Ryan needed to work with a trainer this weekend on everything from his posture to his language to his enunciation. You can tell that they didn't prepare answers in advance either, as he kept going back to being intoxicated. His sponsors DO NOT want to hear this and they certainly DO NOT want to hear it repeated like an excuse.

It's so unprofessional that he was allowed to do this interview, and that he was allowed to do it without anyone to guide him. He ends up looking like even more of a loser and he did nothing that would make his sponsors think this is a guy they should keep on paying. I feel for him, I really do, and I hope he at least thinks about hiring someone in the PR world - not just for any future interviews he does, but also to control how he re-enters the world of social media and to prevent any future issues like his upcoming birthday party in Vegas that
with his gf's paid appearance. He needs to totally avoid any upcoming partying, he honestly needs to send the Playboy playmate packing for now as she's not a good look for him either, and he needs to do some major re-branding and re-imaging before re-emerging in the public eye.


Well said.
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To the pp who said that lochte at 36 would be non competitive for the 2020 Olympics - that's what I thought as well. But in his first "apology" post he noted how he wants to prepare for 2020. I think he's a bit deluded
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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a publicist, I would NEVER have allowed Ryan to do this interview. At least not yet. He didn't need to "explain himself" to the public or to his sponsors - not like this. There was absolutely no need for him to take more time away from other Olympians and the end of the Olympic games. The proper protocol would have been for him to wait until AFTER the games, as he has already taken so much away from the games and other competitors. So much air time has been devoted to covering his shenanigans, that he just should've laid low for a few more days.

He was also completely unprepared and you can tell he had absolutely no media training prior to this. This is what happens when you use a lawyer for your crisis PR needs instead of pairing the lawyer up with a true publicist who is experienced in this realm. Ryan needed to work with a trainer this weekend on everything from his posture to his language to his enunciation. You can tell that they didn't prepare answers in advance either, as he kept going back to being intoxicated. His sponsors DO NOT want to hear this and they certainly DO NOT want to hear it repeated like an excuse.

It's so unprofessional that he was allowed to do this interview, and that he was allowed to do it without anyone to guide him. He ends up looking like even more of a loser and he did nothing that would make his sponsors think this is a guy they should keep on paying. I feel for him, I really do, and I hope he at least thinks about hiring someone in the PR world - not just for any future interviews he does, but also to control how he re-enters the world of social media and to prevent any future issues like his upcoming birthday party in Vegas that coincides with his gf's paid appearance. He needs to totally avoid any upcoming partying, he honestly needs to send the Playboy playmate packing for now as she's not a good look for him either, and he needs to do some major re-branding and re-imaging before re-emerging in the public eye.


He does have a PR guy, and apparently a well known one: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ryan-lochte-enlists-pr-guru-920853.

Honestly, I didn't think the interview was that bad. Yes, he said he was drunk a lot, but, hey, he was being honest. And he said "tantics," but probably just mixed a couple words (antics and tantrum maybe??) I thought some of his answer were spot on -- e.g., when ML asked him what his punishment should be and he said something like "that's not my call." ML was an ass, IMO -- acting like it's ridiculous for Lochte to think he was robbed -- like it's normal to get a gun pointed at you for damage to a poster. All this ass kissing for Rio is so over the top.

And even the suggestion that Lochte should be banned from swimming for life is absurd. Phelps got a DUI for driving 84 mph in a 45 zone, and he wasn't banned for life. A number of swimmers at the Olympics had previously tested positive for banned substances, yet they weren't banned for life. Kobe Bryant was accused of sexual assault, yet he has represented us at the Olympics more than once. I'm sure the list could go on and on.


As you can see, I addressed the "PR guy" he has in my post. The guy he hired is a lawyer who handles crisis PR situation, but from the legal angle, not from the public relations angle. There's a big difference. Yes, the lawyer is well-known, but in these situations, the best advice is to tag team with a lawyer and a publicist. A publicist knows the nuances of the interviews, a publicist has done so many of these interviews that they can anticipate the questions or even use their connections to get a little inside scoop on the angle of the interview questions, and they can work with the client on how to speak, what words to use and what things to maybe avoid repeating over and over again. The interview was actually really bad and I just hope he holds off on saying / doing anything more for a good while.


Well Hiltzik must have a great PR guy because--even though Hiltzik is not a "real" PR guy, according to you--he's referred to a "PR guru," "PR expert," etc.

I could have anticipated the questions ML asked Ryan. It's not like they were out of left field. Lochte isn't an actor, he's not a politician -- he's a swimmer. He spends hours upon hours with his head in the water staring at a black line. And I don't think he's especially quick or bright. I don't think the best PR expert in the world could have made that interview any better. Maybe the timing was off, maybe the apology in Brazil should have been later. But the bottom line is Ryan Lochte is Ryan Lochte. And while admitting that he was drunk may not be ideal, it's better than saying he was sober and just lied. Plus, Phelps had a serious drinking problem and has plenty of endorsements still.


Hiltzik DOES have a great PR team behind him, yes. But just because someone is called something, it doesn't mean they have the background or credentials to do that work as well as someone who is immersed in it day in and day out. I'm not going to argue this back and forth with you - you can think whatever you want.

While the questions weren't out of left-field, you could tell that Lauer's tone caught Ryan off guard. Media training doesn't make someone an actor or a politician, but it does adequately prepare them for such interviews and it is even more imperative for people who typically aren't giving interviews, like Ryan. What I posted in no way says that he should have lied about anything or said that he was sober, but you can address the state of mind you were in without repeating that you were intoxicated. It's all about word choice, or lack thereof in Lochte's case. And with regards to Phelps, I distinctly remember that he lost Kellogs in 2009, as a result of his antics. He has much bigger star power than Lochte does though, and Lochte's single gold medal at these Olympics doesn't make him all that valuable to sponsors who can easily move on to another athlete. A younger one, a fresher and newer face, and one without Ryan's track record of being the fun party guy.


I know Phelps lost some sponsors because of the DUI, but he's still doing fine. And while Phelps is a bigger star than Lochte, in the swimming world, those two men are #1 and #2. But for Phelps, Lochte would be the most decorated Olympic swimmer of all time. He's not just another swimmer -- but you may not understand that if you don't know much about swimming. You're right that the fact that he only won one medal at this Olympics could make sponsors turn away. But, if they want a male swimmer, where are they going to turn? Maybe to Ryan Murphy -- but my guess is most people have no idea who that is. Maybe the guy who beat Phelps in the 100 fly -- but that's only if he gives up his NCAA eligibility, which seems unlikely. Of course, they may not want a swimmer, and then Lochte may be in trouble. But that was maybe going to happen after these Olympics anyway because he didn't do well. Kind of like poor Missy Franklin...


At least they don't know who THAT Ryan Murphy is!

All this banned-from-swimming talk is pretty funny to me. In 2020, Lochte will be 36. Not competitive. Anthony Ervin was an exception this Olympics, and he only had to chug 50 meters to his gold at age 35. Lochte's career was over before all this began.


Wait, I forgot about Nathan Adrian....he would be a good choice.



If you want male swimmers right now - Nathan Adrian or Conor Dwyer. Adrian has been in 3 Olympics and has a bunch of big sponsors already - Coke, Citi, BP, BMW etc.
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Conor Dwyer is similar and there was a recent article stating that he's already bringing in 300-400k in income yearly with just 1 medal in London and will be working to cash in after Rio. His sponsors aren't huge names necessarily - 24 Hour Fitness gym; Mutual of Omaha; Smuckers; Speedo. So I'd look for him to pick up a few more recognizable names this go around - w 2 medals and Ryan's issues helping him favorably.
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Ok so general consensus: we're not mad at lochte, just think he's a little dumb and made a bad decision.
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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a publicist, I would NEVER have allowed Ryan to do this interview. At least not yet. He didn't need to "explain himself" to the public or to his sponsors - not like this. There was absolutely no need for him to take more time away from other Olympians and the end of the Olympic games. The proper protocol would have been for him to wait until AFTER the games, as he has already taken so much away from the games and other competitors. So much air time has been devoted to covering his shenanigans, that he just should've laid low for a few more days.

He was also completely unprepared and you can tell he had absolutely no media training prior to this. This is what happens when you use a lawyer for your crisis PR needs instead of pairing the lawyer up with a true publicist who is experienced in this realm. Ryan needed to work with a trainer this weekend on everything from his posture to his language to his enunciation. You can tell that they didn't prepare answers in advance either, as he kept going back to being intoxicated. His sponsors DO NOT want to hear this and they certainly DO NOT want to hear it repeated like an excuse.

It's so unprofessional that he was allowed to do this interview, and that he was allowed to do it without anyone to guide him. He ends up looking like even more of a loser and he did nothing that would make his sponsors think this is a guy they should keep on paying. I feel for him, I really do, and I hope he at least thinks about hiring someone in the PR world - not just for any future interviews he does, but also to control how he re-enters the world of social media and to prevent any future issues like his upcoming birthday party in Vegas that coincides with his gf's paid appearance. He needs to totally avoid any upcoming partying, he honestly needs to send the Playboy playmate packing for now as she's not a good look for him either, and he needs to do some major re-branding and re-imaging before re-emerging in the public eye.


He does have a PR guy, and apparently a well known one: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ryan-lochte-enlists-pr-guru-920853.

Honestly, I didn't think the interview was that bad. Yes, he said he was drunk a lot, but, hey, he was being honest. And he said "tantics," but probably just mixed a couple words (antics and tantrum maybe??) I thought some of his answer were spot on -- e.g., when ML asked him what his punishment should be and he said something like "that's not my call." ML was an ass, IMO -- acting like it's ridiculous for Lochte to think he was robbed -- like it's normal to get a gun pointed at you for damage to a poster. All this ass kissing for Rio is so over the top.

And even the suggestion that Lochte should be banned from swimming for life is absurd. Phelps got a DUI for driving 84 mph in a 45 zone, and he wasn't banned for life. A number of swimmers at the Olympics had previously tested positive for banned substances, yet they weren't banned for life. Kobe Bryant was accused of sexual assault, yet he has represented us at the Olympics more than once. I'm sure the list could go on and on.


As you can see, I addressed the "PR guy" he has in my post. The guy he hired is a lawyer who handles crisis PR situation, but from the legal angle, not from the public relations angle. There's a big difference. Yes, the lawyer is well-known, but in these situations, the best advice is to tag team with a lawyer and a publicist. A publicist knows the nuances of the interviews, a publicist has done so many of these interviews that they can anticipate the questions or even use their connections to get a little inside scoop on the angle of the interview questions, and they can work with the client on how to speak, what words to use and what things to maybe avoid repeating over and over again. The interview was actually really bad and I just hope he holds off on saying / doing anything more for a good while.


Well Hiltzik must have a great PR guy because--even though Hiltzik is not a "real" PR guy, according to you--he's referred to a "PR guru," "PR expert," etc.

I could have anticipated the questions ML asked Ryan. It's not like they were out of left field. Lochte isn't an actor, he's not a politician -- he's a swimmer. He spends hours upon hours with his head in the water staring at a black line. And I don't think he's especially quick or bright. I don't think the best PR expert in the world could have made that interview any better. Maybe the timing was off, maybe the apology in Brazil should have been later. But the bottom line is Ryan Lochte is Ryan Lochte. And while admitting that he was drunk may not be ideal, it's better than saying he was sober and just lied. Plus, Phelps had a serious drinking problem and has plenty of endorsements still.


Hiltzik DOES have a great PR team behind him, yes. But just because someone is called something, it doesn't mean they have the background or credentials to do that work as well as someone who is immersed in it day in and day out. I'm not going to argue this back and forth with you - you can think whatever you want.

While the questions weren't out of left-field, you could tell that Lauer's tone caught Ryan off guard. Media training doesn't make someone an actor or a politician, but it does adequately prepare them for such interviews and it is even more imperative for people who typically aren't giving interviews, like Ryan. What I posted in no way says that he should have lied about anything or said that he was sober, but you can address the state of mind you were in without repeating that you were intoxicated. It's all about word choice, or lack thereof in Lochte's case. And with regards to Phelps, I distinctly remember that he lost Kellogs in 2009, as a result of his antics. He has much bigger star power than Lochte does though, and Lochte's single gold medal at these Olympics doesn't make him all that valuable to sponsors who can easily move on to another athlete. A younger one, a fresher and newer face, and one without Ryan's track record of being the fun party guy.


I know Phelps lost some sponsors because of the DUI, but he's still doing fine. And while Phelps is a bigger star than Lochte, in the swimming world, those two men are #1 and #2. But for Phelps, Lochte would be the most decorated Olympic swimmer of all time. He's not just another swimmer -- but you may not understand that if you don't know much about swimming. You're right that the fact that he only won one medal at this Olympics could make sponsors turn away. But, if they want a male swimmer, where are they going to turn? Maybe to Ryan Murphy -- but my guess is most people have no idea who that is. Maybe the guy who beat Phelps in the 100 fly -- but that's only if he gives up his NCAA eligibility, which seems unlikely. Of course, they may not want a swimmer, and then Lochte may be in trouble. But that was maybe going to happen after these Olympics anyway because he didn't do well. Kind of like poor Missy Franklin...


At least they don't know who THAT Ryan Murphy is!

All this banned-from-swimming talk is pretty funny to me. In 2020, Lochte will be 36. Not competitive. Anthony Ervin was an exception this Olympics, and he only had to chug 50 meters to his gold at age 35. Lochte's career was over before all this began.


Wait, I forgot about Nathan Adrian....he would be a good choice.



If you want male swimmers right now - Nathan Adrian or Conor Dwyer. Adrian has been in 3 Olympics and has a bunch of big sponsors already - Coke, Citi, BP, BMW etc.


I did notice throughout the Olympics that Nathan Adrian has a good smile and a twinkle in his eyes!
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Sports marketing is a bit of an interest of mine so I've been following for a while. Adrian has the requisite good looks and seems to have the positivity and wholesomeness that marketers love -- see Missy Franklin. When Coca Cola rolled out its 6 poster children for this games, they made it a point to say that they look for athletes who are stand up people. Same with Chicago Sun Times article re Conor Dwyer -- it highlighted that he is family friendly in a way that Lochte isn't (and this was 4 months before the Olympics).

I think wholesomeness/family friendliness matters for makers of household goods prob bc they know that a lot of moms and dads are buying Kelloggs cereals or Minute Maid juice or whatever and they don't want pics of bad boys bringing up breakfast table conversations with 10 yr old kids re -- yes he got in trouble bc he was really drunk. In think with people like Adrian, Dwyer, Franklin, and Ledecky -- that's much less of a concern.
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FALSE - Embarrassing drunk frat boy behavior. And I mean BOY behavior not behavior of a 32 year old man. Why lie? No one would have even known about incident if Lochte didn't lie. I can't believe people on this forum are trying to defend his behavior or justify. Would they do this if it were any of the AA track and field men pissing all over and tearing down signs.


Completely agree on the bolded part. They make excuses for him because they want to blow him, plus of course they wouldn't be making excuses for him if he was balck.
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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a publicist, I would NEVER have allowed Ryan to do this interview. At least not yet. He didn't need to "explain himself" to the public or to his sponsors - not like this. There was absolutely no need for him to take more time away from other Olympians and the end of the Olympic games. The proper protocol would have been for him to wait until AFTER the games, as he has already taken so much away from the games and other competitors. So much air time has been devoted to covering his shenanigans, that he just should've laid low for a few more days.

He was also completely unprepared and you can tell he had absolutely no media training prior to this. This is what happens when you use a lawyer for your crisis PR needs instead of pairing the lawyer up with a true publicist who is experienced in this realm. Ryan needed to work with a trainer this weekend on everything from his posture to his language to his enunciation. You can tell that they didn't prepare answers in advance either, as he kept going back to being intoxicated. His sponsors DO NOT want to hear this and they certainly DO NOT want to hear it repeated like an excuse.

It's so unprofessional that he was allowed to do this interview, and that he was allowed to do it without anyone to guide him. He ends up looking like even more of a loser and he did nothing that would make his sponsors think this is a guy they should keep on paying. I feel for him, I really do, and I hope he at least thinks about hiring someone in the PR world - not just for any future interviews he does, but also to control how he re-enters the world of social media and to prevent any future issues like his upcoming birthday party in Vegas that coincides with his gf's paid appearance. He needs to totally avoid any upcoming partying, he honestly needs to send the Playboy playmate packing for now as she's not a good look for him either, and he needs to do some major re-branding and re-imaging before re-emerging in the public eye.


LOL, you feel sorry for him? Get real. Everything this dipshit is going through is directly attributable to his behavior. This isn't someone else's fault. This is dumbass Ryan Lochte's fault.

I'm glad he did this interview. You know why? It just proved that he's a selfish fucking asshole who thinks he can do whatever he wants and not be held accountable. How much of a idiot to you have to be to get yourself in a situation like this? To fuck with someone's business that happens to be in a beautiful but third-world country? What a god damn moron. "I was drunk, I was drunk." Stop acting like a fucking dumbass college student. You're a 32 year old man. Start acting like one.

The best news from all of this is that nobody gives even a slightest flying fuck about swimming or swimmers. This is simply the outrage de jour. Within the next week, no one will even care about Ryan Lochte and once football season starts, we will have totally forgotten about this. And every four years from now, we'll only remember Ryan Lochte for being a selfish fucking asshole and a moron to boot.

And I don't get why he needs to dump his Playmate g/f. How is she even relevant to all this? What is he supposed to do, date a DCUM harpie plumper? Just goes to show, PR "professionals" are the most overpaid people on earth.
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FALSE - Embarrassing drunk frat boy behavior. And I mean BOY behavior not behavior of a 32 year old man. Why lie? No one would have even known about incident if Lochte didn't lie. I can't believe people on this forum are trying to defend his behavior or justify. Would they do this if it were any of the AA track and field men pissing all over and tearing down signs.


American Exceptionalism (TM).
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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a publicist, I would NEVER have allowed Ryan to do this interview. At least not yet. He didn't need to "explain himself" to the public or to his sponsors - not like this. There was absolutely no need for him to take more time away from other Olympians and the end of the Olympic games. The proper protocol would have been for him to wait until AFTER the games, as he has already taken so much away from the games and other competitors. So much air time has been devoted to covering his shenanigans, that he just should've laid low for a few more days.

He was also completely unprepared and you can tell he had absolutely no media training prior to this. This is what happens when you use a lawyer for your crisis PR needs instead of pairing the lawyer up with a true publicist who is experienced in this realm. Ryan needed to work with a trainer this weekend on everything from his posture to his language to his enunciation. You can tell that they didn't prepare answers in advance either, as he kept going back to being intoxicated. His sponsors DO NOT want to hear this and they certainly DO NOT want to hear it repeated like an excuse.

It's so unprofessional that he was allowed to do this interview, and that he was allowed to do it without anyone to guide him. He ends up looking like even more of a loser and he did nothing that would make his sponsors think this is a guy they should keep on paying. I feel for him, I really do, and I hope he at least thinks about hiring someone in the PR world - not just for any future interviews he does, but also to control how he re-enters the world of social media and to prevent any future issues like his upcoming birthday party in Vegas that coincides with his gf's paid appearance. He needs to totally avoid any upcoming partying, he honestly needs to send the Playboy playmate packing for now as she's not a good look for him either, and he needs to do some major re-branding and re-imaging before re-emerging in the public eye.


LOL, you feel sorry for him? Get real. Everything this dipshit is going through is directly attributable to his behavior. This isn't someone else's fault. This is dumbass Ryan Lochte's fault.

I'm glad he did this interview. You know why? It just proved that he's a selfish fucking asshole who thinks he can do whatever he wants and not be held accountable. How much of a idiot to you have to be to get yourself in a situation like this? To fuck with someone's business that happens to be in a beautiful but third-world country? What a god damn moron. "I was drunk, I was drunk." Stop acting like a fucking dumbass college student. You're a 32 year old man. Start acting like one.

The best news from all of this is that nobody gives even a slightest flying fuck about swimming or swimmers. This is simply the outrage de jour. Within the next week, no one will even care about Ryan Lochte and once football season starts, we will have totally forgotten about this. And every four years from now, we'll only remember Ryan Lochte for being a selfish fucking asshole and a moron to boot.

And I don't get why he needs to dump his Playmate g/f. How is she even relevant to all this? What is he supposed to do, date a DCUM harpie plumper? Just goes to show, PR "professionals" are the most overpaid people on earth.


Publicist PP here. Your idiotic ramblings just prove my point — not everyone is cut out for PR and just because someone says they are a publicist doesn't mean that they actually have any skills. I'll continue earning my stellar salary while you continue to spew utter nonsense.

Also, as for what his gf has to do with anything, she doesn't make him look good. Her salary is based on partying and appearances, and it's gone up a lot lately because people count on Ryan showing up with her. That's a scene and situation he needs to avoid. Big time. She also has relationships with the tabloids and she sells them info and pics for 5 figure payments. He doesn't need that in his life. He needs to not date at the moment and focus on other things. But you wouldn't get that.
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Publicist PP here. Your idiotic ramblings just prove my point — not everyone is cut out for PR and just because someone says they are a publicist doesn't mean that they actually have any skills. I'll continue earning my stellar salary while you continue to spew utter nonsense.

Also, as for what his gf has to do with anything, she doesn't make him look good. Her salary is based on partying and appearances, and it's gone up a lot lately because people count on Ryan showing up with her. That's a scene and situation he needs to avoid. Big time. She also has relationships with the tabloids and she sells them info and pics for 5 figure payments. He doesn't need that in his life. He needs to not date at the moment and focus on other things. But you wouldn't get that.


I never said I'm a publicist. Might want to work in a few reading comprehension classes into your crisis PR bullshit.
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