Can someone explain AEM to me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy meltdown on AEM tonight, part of the same thread where we saw familiar melters and naysayers posting yesterday. The commenter said her life plan included public school. Fair enough. But I don't think any of us had a global pandemic in our life plans but we got one anyway and we had to deal. It sucked in so many ways and it definitely sucked more than for others, but FFS, get out of the bitter barn and play in the hay (Phoebe in a Friends episode).

In fairness, that commenter also said she’s a frontline health care worker, and our society broadly makes child care a challenge for essential workers. It’s in those moments that I do realize how lucky I had it having a job I could do from home, so no wonder why she was so offended when she was told to just get over it. And then icing on the cake being told by AEM’s most flagrant and frequent ad hominem attack dog who pounced and just wouldn’t stop attacking. She’s one of the ones who has turned me off from proactively checking that group for useful info.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy meltdown on AEM tonight, part of the same thread where we saw familiar melters and naysayers posting yesterday. The commenter said her life plan included public school. Fair enough. But I don't think any of us had a global pandemic in our life plans but we got one anyway and we had to deal. It sucked in so many ways and it definitely sucked more than for others, but FFS, get out of the bitter barn and play in the hay (Phoebe in a Friends episode).

In fairness, that commenter also said she’s a frontline health care worker, and our society broadly makes child care a challenge for essential workers. It’s in those moments that I do realize how lucky I had it having a job I could do from home, so no wonder why she was so offended when she was told to just get over it. And then icing on the cake being told by AEM’s most flagrant and frequent ad hominem attack dog who pounced and just wouldn’t stop attacking. She’s one of the ones who has turned me off from proactively checking that group for useful info.

I’m not saying it didn’t suck a lot for her, and I’m sorry for what she went through. But I’m more alarmed by what she seems to STILL be going through, as she seems stuck in focusing on what went wrong. While I don’t agree with much of what the responding poster typically posts, or the manner in which they do so, I agree that at some point everyone needs to get unstuck and move forward. Otherwise it’s just unhealthy for her and her kids. The continuing rage that so many seem to feel and publicly post is disconcerting.

Hmm. Her children had almost a year and a half of school that was a disaster for them, she is still dealing with behavioral issues as a result of school via Ipad, she was a frontline worker putting her life on the line for us, she had to quit her job that provided the family's benefits so now has to pay $2K a month for COBRA, and many of you think she just needs to be Pollyanna. I don't think she's the one with the problem; I think those of you who cannot understand why she's having trouble "getting out of the bitter barn and playing in the hay" have the problem.

[Anonymous]

Even if she does need to look ahead, SJH's comments are not going to get her there.

Yes, the pandemic sucked more for some people than others, and yes, there are things I hope APS and parents have learned from this. But as long as people are claiming concern for lower-income families while ignoring those families' stated preferences and deciding that being a nurse makes you "working class," I'm not going to feel like those lessons have been absorbed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy meltdown on AEM tonight, part of the same thread where we saw familiar melters and naysayers posting yesterday. The commenter said her life plan included public school. Fair enough. But I don't think any of us had a global pandemic in our life plans but we got one anyway and we had to deal. It sucked in so many ways and it definitely sucked more than for others, but FFS, get out of the bitter barn and play in the hay (Phoebe in a Friends episode).

Can anyone post a link? I’m not seeing anything controversial and wondering if I was blocked by someone LOL.

Same here. Then I realized I blocked the crazy one. Unblocked her and sure enough there it was. Didn't read it because I don't have any interest in her opinions. You probably blocked her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if she does need to look ahead, SJH's comments are not going to get her there.

Yes, the pandemic sucked more for some people than others, and yes, there are things I hope APS and parents have learned from this. But as long as people are claiming concern for lower-income families while ignoring those families' stated preferences and deciding that being a nurse makes you "working class," I'm not going to feel like those lessons have been absorbed.

The class status of nurses is irrelevant because she QUIT HER JOB. If lower-income families wanted to stay virtual, they should have had a virtual option (which they did). That's not the same as compelling everyone else to take the virtual option by keeping in-person off the table. The fact that some people still don't get that that decision had costs shows how little anyone has learned from the last year.

The fact that this thread is nit-picking the nurse's arguments rather than focusing on how SJH is a massive, callous jerk to everyone she disagrees with. She acts with impunity because she knows that the mods and the loudest voices agree with her. THAT's what's wrong with AEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if she does need to look ahead, SJH's comments are not going to get her there.

Yes, the pandemic sucked more for some people than others, and yes, there are things I hope APS and parents have learned from this. But as long as people are claiming concern for lower-income families while ignoring those families' stated preferences and deciding that being a nurse makes you "working class," I'm not going to feel like those lessons have been absorbed.

The class status of nurses is irrelevant because she QUIT HER JOB. If lower-income families wanted to stay virtual, they should have had a virtual option (which they did). That's not the same as compelling everyone else to take the virtual option by keeping in-person off the table. The fact that some people still don't get that that decision had costs shows how little anyone has learned from the last year.

The fact that this thread is nit-picking the nurse's arguments rather than focusing on how SJH is a massive, callous jerk to everyone she disagrees with. She acts with impunity because she knows that the mods and the loudest voices agree with her. THAT's what's wrong with AEM.

How long will you guys dissect the last year? Insufferable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if she does need to look ahead, SJH's comments are not going to get her there.

Yes, the pandemic sucked more for some people than others, and yes, there are things I hope APS and parents have learned from this. But as long as people are claiming concern for lower-income families while ignoring those families' stated preferences and deciding that being a nurse makes you "working class," I'm not going to feel like those lessons have been absorbed.

The class status of nurses is irrelevant because she QUIT HER JOB. If lower-income families wanted to stay virtual, they should have had a virtual option (which they did). That's not the same as compelling everyone else to take the virtual option by keeping in-person off the table. The fact that some people still don't get that that decision had costs shows how little anyone has learned from the last year.

The fact that this thread is nit-picking the nurse's arguments rather than focusing on how SJH is a massive, callous jerk to everyone she disagrees with. She acts with impunity because she knows that the mods and the loudest voices agree with her. THAT's what's wrong with AEM.

How long will you guys dissect the last year? Insufferable.

Who is dissecting the last year? SJH was being a callous jerk just yesterday. That's the point. And the former nurse is still writing those COBRA checks. That's not ancient history, and the fact that some people want to treat it that way says a whole lot about the positions they took.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if she does need to look ahead, SJH's comments are not going to get her there.

Yes, the pandemic sucked more for some people than others, and yes, there are things I hope APS and parents have learned from this. But as long as people are claiming concern for lower-income families while ignoring those families' stated preferences and deciding that being a nurse makes you "working class," I'm not going to feel like those lessons have been absorbed.

The class status of nurses is irrelevant because she QUIT HER JOB. If lower-income families wanted to stay virtual, they should have had a virtual option (which they did). That's not the same as compelling everyone else to take the virtual option by keeping in-person off the table. The fact that some people still don't get that that decision had costs shows how little anyone has learned from the last year.

The fact that this thread is nit-picking the nurse's arguments rather than focusing on how SJH is a massive, callous jerk to everyone she disagrees with. She acts with impunity because she knows that the mods and the loudest voices agree with her. THAT's what's wrong with AEM.

How long will you guys dissect the last year? Insufferable.

Who is dissecting the last year? SJH was being a callous jerk just yesterday. That's the point. And the former nurse is still writing those COBRA checks. That's not ancient history, and the fact that some people want to treat it that way says a whole lot about the positions they took.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if she does need to look ahead, SJH's comments are not going to get her there.

Yes, the pandemic sucked more for some people than others, and yes, there are things I hope APS and parents have learned from this. But as long as people are claiming concern for lower-income families while ignoring those families' stated preferences and deciding that being a nurse makes you "working class," I'm not going to feel like those lessons have been absorbed.

The class status of nurses is irrelevant because she QUIT HER JOB. If lower-income families wanted to stay virtual, they should have had a virtual option (which they did). That's not the same as compelling everyone else to take the virtual option by keeping in-person off the table. The fact that some people still don't get that that decision had costs shows how little anyone has learned from the last year.

The fact that this thread is nit-picking the nurse's arguments rather than focusing on how SJH is a massive, callous jerk to everyone she disagrees with. She acts with impunity because she knows that the mods and the loudest voices agree with her. THAT's what's wrong with AEM.

How long will you guys dissect the last year? Insufferable.

Who is dissecting the last year? SJH was being a callous jerk just yesterday. That's the point. And the former nurse is still writing those COBRA checks. That's not ancient history, and the fact that some people want to treat it that way says a whole lot about the positions they took.

And she is using a fake name and the aem moderators don’t do anything about it. Maybe it’s Duran.

[Anonymous]

I found it and read it. It's basically three people griping deep into an otherwise useful thread. Easy to ignore. I still find AEM useful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I found it and read it. It's basically three people griping deep into an otherwise useful thread. Easy to ignore. I still find AEM useful.

I might be mixing up the threads but I think a bunch of posts were deleted. About teachers unions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, all of you sound bitter. on AEM last year, I was just there to gawk and lurk. Both same 25 people in APE and SR people dominated the conversation. Out of curiosity, I joined both groups and saw they were all dumpster fires.

I don't know what will happen next school year, but I agree that case counts will go up amongst the unvaxxed, and maybe our younger children as new variants emerge. I'm not confident that APS has a plan at all, and that's a true shame.

I feel like that just like AEM, the same people comment, and it's probably the same 25 people.

Our kids suffered significantly while children throughout the country and world plus in private schools here all were in school, but we're just "bitter" and we should forget it. Got it.

"new variants" = more fear porn.


Ventilation Queen, CO2 Woman or Lunch Petitioner? Which one of you is this?

I thought Ventilation Queen and CO2 Woman was the same person. I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, all of you sound bitter. on AEM last year, I was just there to gawk and lurk. Both same 25 people in APE and SR people dominated the conversation. Out of curiosity, I joined both groups and saw they were all dumpster fires.

I don't know what will happen next school year, but I agree that case counts will go up amongst the unvaxxed, and maybe our younger children as new variants emerge. I'm not confident that APS has a plan at all, and that's a true shame.

I feel like that just like AEM, the same people comment, and it's probably the same 25 people.

Our kids suffered significantly while children throughout the country and world plus in private schools here all were in school, but we're just "bitter" and we should forget it. Got it.

"new variants" = more fear porn.


Ventilation Queen, CO2 Woman or Lunch Petitioner? Which one of you is this?

I thought Ventilation Queen and CO2 Woman was the same person. I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention.

I thought CO2 woman was a teacher. I have no idea anymore. It seems like most of them don't comment anymore in AEM so it's irrelevant now.

[Anonymous]

Many APS teachers trying to figure out who the heck SJH really is. 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many APS teachers trying to figure out who the heck SJH really is. 🤷‍♀️

I’ve wondered that, too. I got into her about something a few months ago and then I googled APS staff, but didn’t find her name. I feel really badly for her students if she’s truly a teacher and treats them the same way!