There WILL (probably) be 5 days a week in-person in all districts this fall

[Anonymous]

Are people telling their school boards this about private families? I know very few who left this year who are going back next, if ever. School boards need to know 5 days in-person as soon as reasonable is the only way to shift things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are people telling their school boards this about private families? I know very few who left this year who are going back next, if ever. School boards need to know 5 days in-person as soon as reasonable is the only way to shift things.

They know this. You really think school boards make decisions based around neighborhood gossip moms pass along to them??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in Colorado (Denver burbs not the boonies), elementary has been full time 5 days a week since October with ms and hs hybrid. Our school board just voted to send ms and hs back full time in person 5 days a week after spring break which is in two weeks.

I am exceedingly grateful to have a healthy population and teachers and teachers unions who care about kids. This is public school. I hope your unions stand down, they have destroyed public education and your kids are paying the price.

You are very fortunate, and sadly, very right about unions destroying our public education here. It's unbelievable the crap they have pulled at the expense of our students.

There are no teachers unions in Virginia. There is no collective bargaining in Virginia. Yet. I hope the teachers push for collective bargaining. It is embarrassing to me that in Northern Virginia people who CLAIM to be BLUE are avidly anti-union. Learn to walk your talk, people.

I knew that someone would jump in an say this. The associations don't have collective bargaining, but they organize their members to vote in a certain way which has influenced the school board, and they otherwise act like unions. I don't care what they are officially called, they had a large influence on the opening of schools. The governor and state said that under specific guidelines schools could be open in the fall. Kindergarten through 2nd grade was supposed to be open even if we went back to phase 2. Because the associations encouraged members to threaten a staffing shortage, the majority of children have not been in the classroom for a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Colorado (Denver burbs not the boonies), elementary has been full time 5 days a week since October with ms and hs hybrid. Our school board just voted to send ms and hs back full time in person 5 days a week after spring break which is in two weeks.

I am exceedingly grateful to have a healthy population and teachers and teachers unions who care about kids. This is public school. I hope your unions stand down, they have destroyed public education and your kids are paying the price.

You are very fortunate, and sadly, very right about unions destroying our public education here. It's unbelievable the crap they have pulled at the expense of our students.

There are no teachers unions in Virginia. There is no collective bargaining in Virginia. Yet. I hope the teachers push for collective bargaining. It is embarrassing to me that in Northern Virginia people who CLAIM to be BLUE are avidly anti-union. Learn to walk your talk, people.

I knew that someone would jump in an say this. The associations don't have collective bargaining, but they organize their members to vote in a certain way which has influenced the school board, and they otherwise act like unions. I don't care what they are officially called, they had a large influence on the opening of schools. The governor and state said that under specific guidelines schools could be open in the fall. Kindergarten through 2nd grade was supposed to be open even if we went back to phase 2. Because the associations encouraged members to threaten a staffing shortage, the majority of children have not been in the classroom for a year.

But their membership is TINY. How their members vote doesn’t matter because it’s a MINORITY of teachers who are in the membership! That combined with striking being illegal and no collective bargaining is why they have no power. It’s like your toddler telling you what they are and aren’t willing to do. And you’re like “ok thanks for the update but here’s what you will do” because the toddler doesn’t have the power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are people telling their school boards this about private families? I know very few who left this year who are going back next, if ever. School boards need to know 5 days in-person as soon as reasonable is the only way to shift things.

I do hope many don't return. APS has had an overcrowding issue for years and this is a good way to keep the numbers under crontrol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because this language just passed the House of Delegates (bill came from the senate) and is headed to the Governor's desk.

"1. § 1. As used in this act:

"In-person instruction" means any form of instructional interaction between teachers and students that occurs in person and in real time.

"In-person instruction" does not include the act of proctoring remote online learning in a classroom.

§ 2. Each school board shall offer in-person instruction to each student enrolled in the local school division in a public elementary and secondary school for at least the minimum number of required instructional hours and to each student enrolled in the local school division in a public school-based early childhood care and education program for the entirety of the instructional time provided pursuant to such program. For the purposes of this act, each school board shall (i) adopt, implement, and, when appropriate, update specific parameters for the provision of in-person instruction and (ii) provide such in-person instruction in a manner in which it adheres, to the maximum extent practicable, to any currently applicable mitigation strategies for early childhood care and education programs and elementary and secondary schools to reduce the transmission of COVID-19 that have been provided by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?212+ful+SB1303H1

Online synchronous instruction still counts as in-person.

Not according to the plain text of the bill. Or the plain meaning of words in English.

LOL boy are you going to be mad when the Governor signs this and we finally get to open full time next school year.

Did you know he hasn’t even ruled out signing the emergency clause which would put it into effect immediately?? Now it’s not a sure thing or even 50-50, but the rumor mill is that he’s considering it. School closure people are on the wrong side of history and public opinion right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are people telling their school boards this about private families? I know very few who left this year who are going back next, if ever. School boards need to know 5 days in-person as soon as reasonable is the only way to shift things.

They know this. You really think school boards make decisions based around neighborhood gossip moms pass along to them??

I'm not so sure they really do know this, actually. Several of our SB members don't have kids in the schools, so where would they get the information? All they get is an occasional report on enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Online synchronous instruction does NOT count as instruction in this bill. Thank god. No weaseling out of five days a week of real instruction.

I wish they had ruled out concurrent too. I think THAT is going to be the big nightmare this summer. Five days a week school but the SB is just going to want everything to be concurrent to not have to deal with the headaches of creating a separate virtual school or lose money sending kids to VaVa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people telling their school boards this about private families? I know very few who left this year who are going back next, if ever. School boards need to know 5 days in-person as soon as reasonable is the only way to shift things.

They know this. You really think school boards make decisions based around neighborhood gossip moms pass along to them??

I'm not so sure they really do know this, actually. Several of our SB members don't have kids in the schools, so where would they get the information? All they get is an occasional report on enrollment.

Braband did a presentation showing all the drop in enrollment in the various programs. The SB didn't seem very interested in that part of the presentation. Someone on here pointed out how many severely disabled kids just disappeared between last year and this year --hundreds of kids who simply can't be educated at normal private schools and the SB didn't even ask about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people telling their school boards this about private families? I know very few who left this year who are going back next, if ever. School boards need to know 5 days in-person as soon as reasonable is the only way to shift things.

They know this. You really think school boards make decisions based around neighborhood gossip moms pass along to them??

I'm not so sure they really do know this, actually. Several of our SB members don't have kids in the schools, so where would they get the information? All they get is an occasional report on enrollment.

Braband did a presentation showing all the drop in enrollment in the various programs. The SB didn't seem very interested in that part of the presentation. Someone on here pointed out how many severely disabled kids just disappeared between last year and this year --hundreds of kids who simply can't be educated at normal private schools and the SB didn't even ask about it.

The SB doesn’t care and neither do most people unless they have a kid with a disability. I mean someone on here said their education doesn’t matter because they’ll just end up “pushing carts at Giant” when they graduate. FCPS has legal action against them all the time regarding students with disabilities and they don’t GAF.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are people telling their school boards this about private families? I know very few who left this year who are going back next, if ever. School boards need to know 5 days in-person as soon as reasonable is the only way to shift things.

They know this. You really think school boards make decisions based around neighborhood gossip moms pass along to them??

I'm not so sure they really do know this, actually. Several of our SB members don't have kids in the schools, so where would they get the information? All they get is an occasional report on enrollment.

Braband did a presentation showing all the drop in enrollment in the various programs. The SB didn't seem very interested in that part of the presentation. Someone on here pointed out how many severely disabled kids just disappeared between last year and this year --hundreds of kids who simply can't be educated at normal private schools and the SB didn't even ask about it.

The SB doesn’t care and neither do most people unless they have a kid with a disability. I mean someone on here said their education doesn’t matter because they’ll just end up “pushing carts at Giant” when they graduate. FCPS has legal action against them all the time regarding students with disabilities and they don’t GAF.

Of all the things FCPS does, this is the one that gives the biggest lie to equity. All equity means to the SB is progressive talking points for their next campaign. It's sick.

[Anonymous]

This is school in Wales right now for ES. European CDC doesn't even recommend masks for kids under 12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is school in Wales right now for ES. European CDC doesn't even recommend masks for kids under 12.

Lies. That is not the case “throughout Europe”.

Look at actual % of kids back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Colorado (Denver burbs not the boonies), elementary has been full time 5 days a week since October with ms and hs hybrid. Our school board just voted to send ms and hs back full time in person 5 days a week after spring break which is in two weeks.

I am exceedingly grateful to have a healthy population and teachers and teachers unions who care about kids. This is public school. I hope your unions stand down, they have destroyed public education and your kids are paying the price.

You are very fortunate, and sadly, very right about unions destroying our public education here. It's unbelievable the crap they have pulled at the expense of our students.

There are no teachers unions in Virginia. There is no collective bargaining in Virginia. Yet. I hope the teachers push for collective bargaining. It is embarrassing to me that in Northern Virginia people who CLAIM to be BLUE are avidly anti-union. Learn to walk your talk, people.

I knew that someone would jump in an say this. The associations don't have collective bargaining, but they organize their members to vote in a certain way which has influenced the school board, and they otherwise act like unions. I don't care what they are officially called, they had a large influence on the opening of schools. The governor and state said that under specific guidelines schools could be open in the fall. Kindergarten through 2nd grade was supposed to be open even if we went back to phase 2. Because the associations encouraged members to threaten a staffing shortage, the majority of children have not been in the classroom for a year.

But their membership is TINY. How their members vote doesn’t matter because it’s a MINORITY of teachers who are in the membership! That combined with striking being illegal and no collective bargaining is why they have no power. It’s like your toddler telling you what they are and aren’t willing to do. And you’re like “ok thanks for the update but here’s what you will do” because the toddler doesn’t have the power.

+1

Dumb dumbs just blindly parroting RWNJ talking points.

No, the “unions” aren’t keeping schools closed in VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Online synchronous instruction does NOT count as instruction in this bill. Thank god. No weaseling out of five days a week of real instruction.

I wish they had ruled out concurrent too. I think THAT is going to be the big nightmare this summer. Five days a week school but the SB is just going to want everything to be concurrent to not have to deal with the headaches of creating a separate virtual school or lose money sending kids to VaVa.

I've seen it mentioned that APS should establish a virtual academy. Seems like a good way to keep kids in APS so they can have community and outdoor meet ups without losing them to VaVa or Virtual Virginia. I doubt there will be enough demand to have separate DL programs for every grade at every neighborhood school.