Schools in Europe closing again

[Anonymous]

It’s a pandemic.

With luck, our kids will only live through this type of event once in their lifetimes. Learning and test scores will bounce back. There are much greater things to worry about right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like...Brookings? What's your problem with Brookings?

And that article I just linked about discrepancies in learning loss is about COVID. These are big names in education research. The second author is Jim Soland!

If you think you know better than them, why don't you try publishing? The anti-intellectualism displayed here is appalling.

For those of you interested in actual knowledge and not discounting experts, here's the title and abstract.

Projecting the Potential Impact of COVID-19 School Closures on Academic Achievement
As the COVID-19 pandemic upended the 2019–2020 school year, education systems scrambled to meet the needs of students and families with little available data on how school closures may impact learning. In this study, we produced a series of projections of COVID-19-related learning loss based on (a) estimates from absenteeism literature and (b) analyses of summer learning patterns of 5 million students. Under our projections, returning students are expected to start fall 2020 with approximately 63 to 68% of the learning gains in reading and 37 to 50% of the learning gains in mathematics relative to a typical school year. However, we project that losing ground during the school closures was not universal, with the top third of students potentially making gains in reading.

The person you're responding to is certainly not displaying anti-intellectualism.

This is a pretty confusing thing about 2021. I LOVE hearing "listen to the science!" and I could really dig if anti-intellectualism was pointed out and rooted out. But those complaints seem to already be appropriated in weird ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a pandemic.

With luck, our kids will only live through this type of event once in their lifetimes. Learning and test scores will bounce back. There are much greater things to worry about right now.

The research shows that learning loss is actually very difficult to address without intensive, individualized help. Test scores and learning do not "bounce back" independently. There is no data which supports this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a pandemic.

With luck, our kids will only live through this type of event once in their lifetimes. Learning and test scores will bounce back. There are much greater things to worry about right now.

The research shows that learning loss is actually very difficult to address without intensive, individualized help. Test scores and learning do not "bounce back" independently. There is no data which supports this.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a pandemic.

With luck, our kids will only live through this type of event once in their lifetimes. Learning and test scores will bounce back. There are much greater things to worry about right now.

The research shows that learning loss is actually very difficult to address without intensive, individualized help. Test scores and learning do not "bounce back" independently. There is no data which supports this.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

So this is the third post or article from a teacher claiming that learning isn't being lost posted on DCUM this morning. This has got to be an organized effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

What a strange piece. He starts by asking students what they've learned during the pandemic. But then he doesn't listen.

Students say they have lost their community, their friends, and their sense of self. Adults too have felt abandoned by our supports, by our community, have lost friends, have lost ourselves.

The fix for that is not smaller classes, more adults in the building. The fix is just regular old life. The fix is 2019. The fix is 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a pandemic.

With luck, our kids will only live through this type of event once in their lifetimes. Learning and test scores will bounce back. There are much greater things to worry about right now.

The research shows that learning loss is actually very difficult to address without intensive, individualized help. Test scores and learning do not "bounce back" independently. There is no data which supports this.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

So this is the third post or article from a teacher claiming that learning isn't being lost posted on DCUM this morning. This has got to be an organized effort.

You are not very good with assumptions are you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

What a strange piece. He starts by asking students what they've learned during the pandemic. But then he doesn't listen.

Students say they have lost their community, their friends, and their sense of self. Adults too have felt abandoned by our supports, by our community, have lost friends, have lost ourselves.

The fix for that is not smaller classes, more adults in the building. The fix is just regular old life. The fix is 2019. The fix is 2021.

This isn’t happening yet which is the problem compounded by parental stress. You weren’t listening to them either...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

What a strange piece. He starts by asking students what they've learned during the pandemic. But then he doesn't listen.

Students say they have lost their community, their friends, and their sense of self. Adults too have felt abandoned by our supports, by our community, have lost friends, have lost ourselves.

The fix for that is not smaller classes, more adults in the building. The fix is just regular old life. The fix is 2019. The fix is 2021.

This isn’t happening yet which is the problem compounded by parental stress. You weren’t listening to them either...

In the fall, all schools will be open. Even in MA. Even in the DMV. Planning for"more support" is planning for the wrong fix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

What a strange piece. He starts by asking students what they've learned during the pandemic. But then he doesn't listen.

Students say they have lost their community, their friends, and their sense of self. Adults too have felt abandoned by our supports, by our community, have lost friends, have lost ourselves.

The fix for that is not smaller classes, more adults in the building. The fix is just regular old life. The fix is 2019. The fix is 2021.

This isn’t happening yet which is the problem compounded by parental stress. You weren’t listening to them either...

In the fall, all schools will be open. Even in MA. Even in the DMV. Planning for"more support" is planning for the wrong fix.

Both can happen simultaneously and maybe you confuse support with academics. We can open AND support kids emotionally.

Your “fix” isn’t the same for everyone. Each person has had different experiences with Covid and tragedy befalls more than others. Waiting for school to fix it is not going to fix all that you imagine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-students-respond-to-adults-fixation-on-learning-loss/2021/02

What a strange piece. He starts by asking students what they've learned during the pandemic. But then he doesn't listen.

Students say they have lost their community, their friends, and their sense of self. Adults too have felt abandoned by our supports, by our community, have lost friends, have lost ourselves.

The fix for that is not smaller classes, more adults in the building. The fix is just regular old life. The fix is 2019. The fix is 2021.

The bolded is spot on and I noticed the same thing. The author goes on and on about listening to kids ... but then doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
So this is the third post or article from a teacher claiming that learning isn't being lost posted on DCUM this morning. This has got to be an organized effort.

It's all been me. I'm the OP of this thread and I want this thread to get back to looking at what is going on in Europe (with the new COVID variant that is so contagious). I started a new thread to discuss learning loss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So this is the third post or article from a teacher claiming that learning isn't being lost posted on DCUM this morning. This has got to be an organized effort.

It's all been me. I'm the OP of this thread and I want this thread to get back to looking at what is going on in Europe (with the new COVID variant that is so contagious). I started a new thread to discuss learning loss.

Thanks for explaining. That makes sense.

[Anonymous]

The U.K. has been on an extreme lockdown, including schools for the first time all year, since January 8th. And guess what? Their Covid cases dropped by more than 2/3rds.

Shocking.

The data suggest it is working. Three weeks into that lockdown, the number of new cases per day has dropped from a peak of more than 81,000 on Dec. 29 to 39,000 on Jan. 19, the most recent day for which complete figures are available.

Still, public health experts say, extended national lockdowns are a last-resort measure that should be avoidable if governments introduce targeted restrictions early. So, the lesson from public health experts: yes, the lockdown is working. But the lockdown — and the grim milestone of 100,000 deaths — could have been avoided altogether.

https://time.com/5933659/uk-covid-100k/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The U.K. has been on an extreme lockdown, including schools for the first time all year, since January 8th. And guess what? Their Covid cases dropped by more than 2/3rds.

Shocking.

The data suggest it is working. Three weeks into that lockdown, the number of new cases per day has dropped from a peak of more than 81,000 on Dec. 29 to 39,000 on Jan. 19, the most recent day for which complete figures are available.

Still, public health experts say, extended national lockdowns are a last-resort measure that should be avoidable if governments introduce targeted restrictions early. So, the lesson from public health experts: yes, the lockdown is working. But the lockdown — and the grim milestone of 100,000 deaths — could have been avoided altogether.

https://time.com/5933659/uk-covid-100k/

Cases have peaked and are falling in the DMV. Cases have also peaked and are falling in SD.