New Washington Latin campus - 2021

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Latin can't fix poverty or DCPS' grave management problems in the District. When kids come through a DCPS ES lacking basic skills, Latin, a cash-strapped 5-12 charter, isn't in a great position to enable droves of performers up to perform at grade level in middle school. But what Latin can do is provide an invaluable service to the City in keeping scores of middle-class families in the DC neighborhoods they love and invest in, along with adequately supporting the learning of a small at-risk student population. Without Latin or BASIS, a great many UMC families EotP would have hit the road for VA or MD schools long ago.

Let Latin do what it does best - serve as one of the two high-performing middle schools serving middle-class families EotP. The school is plenty diverse as is, given its many constraints, and DCPS' colossal failure to set up and run high-performing middle schools outside Upper NW.

Some of the PPs on this thread expect miracles of Latin. Ignore them.

Unless Latin locates its new campus deep into Ward 8 (very unlikely), NE and SE gentrifiers are going to be there in force.

They will achieve this by dint of their heavy representation in the applicant pool, along with the bus they're going to deploy from Cap Hill.

Why not locate deep into Ward 8? Why is it very unlikely? Don't the students in Ward 8 deserve an opportunity at Latin? With National Collegiate Prep in Ward 8 closing, their facility is available and Latin could go there.

[Anonymous]

I don't see this happening mainly because the original Latin uses a large cohort of high SES students as a tool to help low SES students rise with the tide academically. That's their model. They can't fulfill their mission without a test-in option AND only poor minority kids in the program. They're not KIPP, a national franchise with a tradition of extended day, Saturday school, abundant use of military type chants and drills, ample private funding etc. Latin really needs UMC kids of various races to make the program work. Moreover, Capitol Hill parents, many of them longtime neighborhood residents who know how to push political levels, have come to rely on Latin as their middle school. They'll give Ward 6 major headaches if Latin winds up in Ward 8. Ward 7 they can live with, not Ward 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see this happening mainly because the original Latin uses a large cohort of high SES students as a tool to help low SES students rise with the tide academically. That's their model. They can't fulfill their mission without a test-in option AND only poor minority kids in the program. They're not KIPP, a national franchise with a tradition of extended day, Saturday school, abundant use of military type chants and drills, ample private funding etc. Latin really needs UMC kids of various races to make the program work. Moreover, Capitol Hill parents, many of them longtime neighborhood residents who know how to push political levels, have come to rely on Latin as their middle school. They'll give Ward 6 major headaches if Latin winds up in Ward 8. Ward 7 they can live with, not Ward 8.

What? When Latin 2/3 students of color those kids were doing better than the students of color are now. Go back to the ore-permanent building days.

The high SES kids are doing well. Even non at-risk kids of color aren’t doing that well. There’s a problem which is decent and should be solved before replication.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see this happening mainly because the original Latin uses a large cohort of high SES students as a tool to help low SES students rise with the tide academically. That's their model. They can't fulfill their mission without a test-in option AND only poor minority kids in the program. They're not KIPP, a national franchise with a tradition of extended day, Saturday school, abundant use of military type chants and drills, ample private funding etc. Latin really needs UMC kids of various races to make the program work. Moreover, Capitol Hill parents, many of them longtime neighborhood residents who know how to push political levels, have come to rely on Latin as their middle school. They'll give Ward 6 major headaches if Latin winds up in Ward 8. Ward 7 they can live with, not Ward 8.

Latin WANTS to be in Ward 7 or 8. This isn’t being imposed on them. Read the expansion document of its strategic plans, which have no mention of using high SES students as a tool or needing UMC kids. Other schools that don’t follow the KIPP model are doing better with students of color (not at risk) AND at-risk kids.

If you think your vision should be the school’s model, maybe get on the Latin Board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Diverse by Design may be my new least-favorite school-reform buzzword. There is no way a charter school must design a curriculum that will be attractive to ALL FAMILIES. Give me a break. The whole point is to experiment with different curriculum and pedagogical approaches and filter what works back through the mainstream. PUHLEAZE. Give that same BS to KIPP Schools or to the dual language charters and then we'll talk.

What's going on here is that the DC ethos is to tear down anything that is remotely working well if it can't be immediately offered to everyone. Let's replicate, not tear down.

Latin has its priorities in the right place and is working towards those goals. Give them a chance to get it right before insisting they change their entire approach to fulfill your silly Diverse by Design marketing campaign.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see this happening mainly because the original Latin uses a large cohort of high SES students as a tool to help low SES students rise with the tide academically. That's their model. They can't fulfill their mission without a test-in option AND only poor minority kids in the program. They're not KIPP, a national franchise with a tradition of extended day, Saturday school, abundant use of military type chants and drills, ample private funding etc. Latin really needs UMC kids of various races to make the program work. Moreover, Capitol Hill parents, many of them longtime neighborhood residents who know how to push political levels, have come to rely on Latin as their middle school. They'll give Ward 6 major headaches if Latin winds up in Ward 8. Ward 7 they can live with, not Ward 8.

What? When Latin 2/3 students of color those kids were doing better than the students of color are now. Go back to the ore-permanent building days.

The high SES kids are doing well. Even non at-risk kids of color aren’t doing that well. There’s a problem which is decent and should be solved before replication.

They were by and large middle class kids with active parents. Agreed, the Latin model is not KIPP. Also. kids from deep Ward 8 can attend Latin. It's a lottery in admissions program, not neighborhood boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Latin will get its second campus next year, somewhere near Capitol Hill. Charles Allen doesn't want to be deluged with complaints that high SES families can't find a middle school spot in an acceptable program!

Charles Allen’s older kid is in 2nd grade now, I believe. And he doesn’t seem to cheat in the lottery, because he had her at JO Wilson until this year (got in in PK back when it was common for OOB kids to get in) when she lotteried into L-T. His younger kid just started PK3 at their EA IB, Miner. So Latin will need a second campus by 3 years from now to improve his kids’ odds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see this happening mainly because the original Latin uses a large cohort of high SES students as a tool to help low SES students rise with the tide academically. That's their model. They can't fulfill their mission without a test-in option AND only poor minority kids in the program. They're not KIPP, a national franchise with a tradition of extended day, Saturday school, abundant use of military type chants and drills, ample private funding etc. Latin really needs UMC kids of various races to make the program work. Moreover, Capitol Hill parents, many of them longtime neighborhood residents who know how to push political levels, have come to rely on Latin as their middle school. They'll give Ward 6 major headaches if Latin winds up in Ward 8. Ward 7 they can live with, not Ward 8.

Latin WANTS to be in Ward 7 or 8. This isn’t being imposed on them. Read the expansion document of its strategic plans, which have no mention of using high SES students as a tool or needing UMC kids. Other schools that don’t follow the KIPP model are doing better with students of color (not at risk) AND at-risk kids.

If you think your vision should be the school’s model, maybe get on the Latin Board.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Latin will get its second campus next year, somewhere near Capitol Hill. Charles Allen doesn't want to be deluged with complaints that high SES families can't find a middle school spot in an acceptable program!

Charles Allen’s older kid is in 2nd grade now, I believe. And he doesn’t seem to cheat in the lottery, because he had her at JO Wilson until this year (got in in PK back when it was common for OOB kids to get in) when she lotteried into L-T. His younger kid just started PK3 at their EA IB, Miner. So Latin will need a second campus by 3 years from now to improve his kids’ odds

He isn't going to send his kid to a charter regardless.