Best Girls Coaches and Best Team/Clubs for girls

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am amazed at the moronic responses posted. I asked the question because I am interested in learning more and hearing other perspectives. If you don't like the question or can't add anything relevant then go away. Why post? I have found several of the posts informative and helpful. Notice that I have no other agenda other than to hear insights and perspectives. I have not pushed a club or coach or written anything negative about a club or coach. At the end of the day, this is why we have the site so that people can share information. Again, if you are not interested in sharing information then go away. It is simple.

BTW, you don't need to know anything about my kid other than she is of age to enter DA/ECNL and is considering both leagues. Again, if you don't have anythig to add then go away.

Finally, I have asked for suggestions of non-ECNL/DA teams and coaches.

People HAVE provided honest answers as well as perspective. I am sorry that they are not what you want to hear but you been granted every courtesy you deserve. You have also been told that in order to provide better answers more information is needed from you. It is not that complicated. State the age and clubs and you will may get meaningful answers.

And you have been told by the people you have asked that our knowing the age is important. Perhaps people know what age groups a coach will end up with that you hadn't considered. This is a two way street my friend and frankly you are the one who is not getting the answers to questions that only you want. The fact of the matter is we don't care enough about your kid to tell you more than you have already been told without more info. Where you end up means more to you than any of us so either follow the advice that has been given with the best of intent or stfu.

Not PP, but speak for yourself.

Ok, because all I saw that remotely answered the OP were a few names of coaches that nobody admitted to have actually had as their own kids coach. By the standards of the OP question, sorry but the collective point still stands. Unless more information is provided by the OP it is difficult for people to provide any specific meaningful answers in the form of a list. Everything else has been sound advice regarding the process to find the answer absent of meaningful information. By the tone of the last few posts the OP seems to finally "get it" that the question is not really as simple as it first appears.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t exclude the general “fun” factor for girls either. My DD has been on 3 not so great teams in a row and I think it’s definitely taken a toll on her soccer outlook. Good coaching is obviously important but comradeship and team chemistry definitely play a huge role in development too, if only looking at the impact on a player’s motivation to improve.

I agree 100%!

But if there’s a bad coach heading a group of great girls the chemistry is lost.

Not always. It can create an us (the team) vs. them (the coaches). Not ideal or healthy, but team chemistry between the players can actually improve in this situation. We unfortunately saw it happen with one of our kids and their team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t exclude the general “fun” factor for girls either. My DD has been on 3 not so great teams in a row and I think it’s definitely taken a toll on her soccer outlook. Good coaching is obviously important but comradeship and team chemistry definitely play a huge role in development too, if only looking at the impact on a player’s motivation to improve.

I agree 100%!

But if there’s a bad coach heading a group of great girls the chemistry is lost.

Not always. It can create an us (the team) vs. them (the coaches). Not ideal or healthy, but team chemistry between the players can actually improve in this situation. We unfortunately saw it happen with one of our kids and their team.

That was a fortunate by-product but otherwise it is certainly a situation that should be avoided.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am amazed at the moronic responses posted. I asked the question because I am interested in learning more and hearing other perspectives. If you don't like the question or can't add anything relevant then go away. Why post? I have found several of the posts informative and helpful. Notice that I have no other agenda other than to hear insights and perspectives. I have not pushed a club or coach or written anything negative about a club or coach. At the end of the day, this is why we have the site so that people can share information. Again, if you are not interested in sharing information then go away. It is simple.

BTW, you don't need to know anything about my kid other than she is of age to enter DA/ECNL and is considering both leagues. Again, if you don't have anythig to add then go away.

Finally, I have asked for suggestions of non-ECNL/DA teams and coaches.

People HAVE provided honest answers as well as perspective. I am sorry that they are not what you want to hear but you been granted every courtesy you deserve. You have also been told that in order to provide better answers more information is needed from you. It is not that complicated. State the age and clubs and you will may get meaningful answers.

And you have been told by the people you have asked that our knowing the age is important. Perhaps people know what age groups a coach will end up with that you hadn't considered. This is a two way street my friend and frankly you are the one who is not getting the answers to questions that only you want. The fact of the matter is we don't care enough about your kid to tell you more than you have already been told without more info. Where you end up means more to you than any of us so either follow the advice that has been given with the best of intent or stfu.

Not PP, but speak for yourself.

Ok, because all I saw that remotely answered the OP were a few names of coaches that nobody admitted to have actually had as their own kids coach. By the standards of the OP question, sorry but the collective point still stands. Unless more information is provided by the OP it is difficult for people to provide any specific meaningful answers in the form of a list. Everything else has been sound advice regarding the process to find the answer absent of meaningful information. By the tone of the last few posts the OP seems to finally "get it" that the question is not really as simple as it first appears.

It is clear than you have issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am amazed at the moronic responses posted. I asked the question because I am interested in learning more and hearing other perspectives. If you don't like the question or can't add anything relevant then go away. Why post? I have found several of the posts informative and helpful. Notice that I have no other agenda other than to hear insights and perspectives. I have not pushed a club or coach or written anything negative about a club or coach. At the end of the day, this is why we have the site so that people can share information. Again, if you are not interested in sharing information then go away. It is simple.

BTW, you don't need to know anything about my kid other than she is of age to enter DA/ECNL and is considering both leagues. Again, if you don't have anythig to add then go away.

Finally, I have asked for suggestions of non-ECNL/DA teams and coaches.

People HAVE provided honest answers as well as perspective. I am sorry that they are not what you want to hear but you been granted every courtesy you deserve. You have also been told that in order to provide better answers more information is needed from you. It is not that complicated. State the age and clubs and you will may get meaningful answers.

And you have been told by the people you have asked that our knowing the age is important. Perhaps people know what age groups a coach will end up with that you hadn't considered. This is a two way street my friend and frankly you are the one who is not getting the answers to questions that only you want. The fact of the matter is we don't care enough about your kid to tell you more than you have already been told without more info. Where you end up means more to you than any of us so either follow the advice that has been given with the best of intent or stfu.

Not PP, but speak for yourself.

Ok, because all I saw that remotely answered the OP were a few names of coaches that nobody admitted to have actually had as their own kids coach. By the standards of the OP question, sorry but the collective point still stands. Unless more information is provided by the OP it is difficult for people to provide any specific meaningful answers in the form of a list. Everything else has been sound advice regarding the process to find the answer absent of meaningful information. By the tone of the last few posts the OP seems to finally "get it" that the question is not really as simple as it first appears.

It is clear than you have issues.

I'm just stating the facts. People have not provided a list of coaches that they are willing to admit their DD's have had. The Op is getting information but it was predicted what info would be provided and so far that has been in fact the case.

Tell us all your DD's coach if you wish to prove me wrong and that I have "issues".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The above is insightful. The "best" in my book is more about the ability of a coach to fully develop a player and motivate that player to improve on their own. Technical improvements and soccer IQ are key at u15 and younger. At u16 and older, I think access to the best competition, expanding the soccer IQ, and preparing the player for college. Maybe I should consider other aspects, which is why I started the thread.

DA/ECNL level coaches are not motivators. They want players who are self motivated and do the work to improve on their own. If your player needs this motivation then DA or ECNL is not for her. There will be no juggling awards, there will be no homework assignments. The coach will expect highly driven self motivated players to show up at practice ready to work hard and that is the bare minimum that is expected to already exist, they will not waste time cultivating it. Playing time is a premium and that should be all the motivation a kid needs.

I guess that is where the definitions of "best" begin to diverge. I don't necessarily disagree with your comment but the reality is that even Phil Jackson motivated Michael Jordan, resulting in six NBA titles and there are few players in the game who are or were more motivated than MJ. Carli Lloyd's personal trainer helped motivate her to her success in the 2015 World Cup. So although I agree that players must come motivated and most are if they have reached the ECNL/DA level, a really good coach can inspire and motivate. Call it an added bonus if a coach has that ability.

You honestly believe that a coach motivated Micheal Jordan? Sorry, but the great players are self motivated.

If your kid needs a coach to motivate her all I can say is good luck.

I think your point is relevant but maybe we are thinking about it differently. There will be different levels of motivation. Some players will go in the back yard and juggle until they can do so 1,000 times. Others will run every day to stay in shape. And still others will do other things outside of practice to improve. That is a common trait of girls going into DA/ECNL. A strong coach can help a girl identify areas of improvement and recognize their potential and inspire/motivate them to fulfill that potential, especially when they experience failures. We are not talking about motivating them to go practice but motivating them to be the best player that are capable of being. Some coaches have that ability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am amazed at the moronic responses posted. I asked the question because I am interested in learning more and hearing other perspectives. If you don't like the question or can't add anything relevant then go away. Why post? I have found several of the posts informative and helpful. Notice that I have no other agenda other than to hear insights and perspectives. I have not pushed a club or coach or written anything negative about a club or coach. At the end of the day, this is why we have the site so that people can share information. Again, if you are not interested in sharing information then go away. It is simple.

BTW, you don't need to know anything about my kid other than she is of age to enter DA/ECNL and is considering both leagues. Again, if you don't have anythig to add then go away.

Finally, I have asked for suggestions of non-ECNL/DA teams and coaches.

People HAVE provided honest answers as well as perspective. I am sorry that they are not what you want to hear but you been granted every courtesy you deserve. You have also been told that in order to provide better answers more information is needed from you. It is not that complicated. State the age and clubs and you will may get meaningful answers.

And you have been told by the people you have asked that our knowing the age is important. Perhaps people know what age groups a coach will end up with that you hadn't considered. This is a two way street my friend and frankly you are the one who is not getting the answers to questions that only you want. The fact of the matter is we don't care enough about your kid to tell you more than you have already been told without more info. Where you end up means more to you than any of us so either follow the advice that has been given with the best of intent or stfu.

Not PP, but speak for yourself.

Ok, because all I saw that remotely answered the OP were a few names of coaches that nobody admitted to have actually had as their own kids coach. By the standards of the OP question, sorry but the collective point still stands. Unless more information is provided by the OP it is difficult for people to provide any specific meaningful answers in the form of a list. Everything else has been sound advice regarding the process to find the answer absent of meaningful information. By the tone of the last few posts the OP seems to finally "get it" that the question is not really as simple as it first appears.

It is clear than you have issues.

I'm just stating the facts. People have not provided a list of coaches that they are willing to admit their DD's have had. The Op is getting information but it was predicted what info would be provided and so far that has been in fact the case.

Tell us all your DD's coach if you wish to prove me wrong and that I have "issues".

Dude the guy does not want to share his coach or club. Rather odd you keep harping on him to provide it. Also weird you talk about some collective like you are union boss and understand what we all think. Give it up.

[Anonymous]

OP here, despite the silly comments, the information shared has been helpful and given me other issues to consider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above is insightful. The "best" in my book is more about the ability of a coach to fully develop a player and motivate that player to improve on their own. Technical improvements and soccer IQ are key at u15 and younger. At u16 and older, I think access to the best competition, expanding the soccer IQ, and preparing the player for college. Maybe I should consider other aspects, which is why I started the thread.

DA/ECNL level coaches are not motivators. They want players who are self motivated and do the work to improve on their own. If your player needs this motivation then DA or ECNL is not for her. There will be no juggling awards, there will be no homework assignments. The coach will expect highly driven self motivated players to show up at practice ready to work hard and that is the bare minimum that is expected to already exist, they will not waste time cultivating it. Playing time is a premium and that should be all the motivation a kid needs.

I guess that is where the definitions of "best" begin to diverge. I don't necessarily disagree with your comment but the reality is that even Phil Jackson motivated Michael Jordan, resulting in six NBA titles and there are few players in the game who are or were more motivated than MJ. Carli Lloyd's personal trainer helped motivate her to her success in the 2015 World Cup. So although I agree that players must come motivated and most are if they have reached the ECNL/DA level, a really good coach can inspire and motivate. Call it an added bonus if a coach has that ability.

You honestly believe that a coach motivated Micheal Jordan? Sorry, but the great players are self motivated.

If your kid needs a coach to motivate her all I can say is good luck.

I think your point is relevant but maybe we are thinking about it differently. There will be different levels of motivation. Some players will go in the back yard and juggle until they can do so 1,000 times. Others will run every day to stay in shape. And still others will do other things outside of practice to improve. That is a common trait of girls going into DA/ECNL. A strong coach can help a girl identify areas of improvement and recognize their potential and inspire/motivate them to fulfill that potential, especially when they experience failures. We are not talking about motivating them to go practice but motivating them to be the best player that are capable of being. Some coaches have that ability.

I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole with you. All I can tell you is every successful player at the DA or ECNL level is already highly motivated. They LOVE soccer. Motivated players ASK where they can improve they do not wait to be told where they can improve.

I see elements of your point in regards to perhaps a better phrase would be a "guide" for the player, but beyond that, I'm sorry, the motivation comes from within the player not from without.

All I'm saying is you know your kid best, if your kid is self motivated then she will be fine and she will demand the guidance of the coach herself. If your DD is not self motivated then you are going into the wrong environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am amazed at the moronic responses posted. I asked the question because I am interested in learning more and hearing other perspectives. If you don't like the question or can't add anything relevant then go away. Why post? I have found several of the posts informative and helpful. Notice that I have no other agenda other than to hear insights and perspectives. I have not pushed a club or coach or written anything negative about a club or coach. At the end of the day, this is why we have the site so that people can share information. Again, if you are not interested in sharing information then go away. It is simple.

BTW, you don't need to know anything about my kid other than she is of age to enter DA/ECNL and is considering both leagues. Again, if you don't have anythig to add then go away.

Finally, I have asked for suggestions of non-ECNL/DA teams and coaches.

People HAVE provided honest answers as well as perspective. I am sorry that they are not what you want to hear but you been granted every courtesy you deserve. You have also been told that in order to provide better answers more information is needed from you. It is not that complicated. State the age and clubs and you will may get meaningful answers.

And you have been told by the people you have asked that our knowing the age is important. Perhaps people know what age groups a coach will end up with that you hadn't considered. This is a two way street my friend and frankly you are the one who is not getting the answers to questions that only you want. The fact of the matter is we don't care enough about your kid to tell you more than you have already been told without more info. Where you end up means more to you than any of us so either follow the advice that has been given with the best of intent or stfu.

Not PP, but speak for yourself.

Ok, because all I saw that remotely answered the OP were a few names of coaches that nobody admitted to have actually had as their own kids coach. By the standards of the OP question, sorry but the collective point still stands. Unless more information is provided by the OP it is difficult for people to provide any specific meaningful answers in the form of a list. Everything else has been sound advice regarding the process to find the answer absent of meaningful information. By the tone of the last few posts the OP seems to finally "get it" that the question is not really as simple as it first appears.

It is clear than you have issues.

I'm just stating the facts. People have not provided a list of coaches that they are willing to admit their DD's have had. The Op is getting information but it was predicted what info would be provided and so far that has been in fact the case.

Tell us all your DD's coach if you wish to prove me wrong and that I have "issues".

Dude the guy does not want to share his coach or club. Rather odd you keep harping on him to provide it. Also weird you talk about some collective like you are union boss and understand what we all think. Give it up.

That is fine, just don't complain when, for the exact same reasons people do not provide theirs. The OP is beyond this point now but you seem stuck in it. Feel free to prove me wrong by listing your DD's best coaches. The point stands and the OP is getting unexpected information so you can let it go now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am amazed at the moronic responses posted. I asked the question because I am interested in learning more and hearing other perspectives. If you don't like the question or can't add anything relevant then go away. Why post? I have found several of the posts informative and helpful. Notice that I have no other agenda other than to hear insights and perspectives. I have not pushed a club or coach or written anything negative about a club or coach. At the end of the day, this is why we have the site so that people can share information. Again, if you are not interested in sharing information then go away. It is simple.

BTW, you don't need to know anything about my kid other than she is of age to enter DA/ECNL and is considering both leagues. Again, if you don't have anythig to add then go away.

Finally, I have asked for suggestions of non-ECNL/DA teams and coaches.

People HAVE provided honest answers as well as perspective. I am sorry that they are not what you want to hear but you been granted every courtesy you deserve. You have also been told that in order to provide better answers more information is needed from you. It is not that complicated. State the age and clubs and you will may get meaningful answers.

And you have been told by the people you have asked that our knowing the age is important. Perhaps people know what age groups a coach will end up with that you hadn't considered. This is a two way street my friend and frankly you are the one who is not getting the answers to questions that only you want. The fact of the matter is we don't care enough about your kid to tell you more than you have already been told without more info. Where you end up means more to you than any of us so either follow the advice that has been given with the best of intent or stfu.

Not PP, but speak for yourself.

Ok, because all I saw that remotely answered the OP were a few names of coaches that nobody admitted to have actually had as their own kids coach. By the standards of the OP question, sorry but the collective point still stands. Unless more information is provided by the OP it is difficult for people to provide any specific meaningful answers in the form of a list. Everything else has been sound advice regarding the process to find the answer absent of meaningful information. By the tone of the last few posts the OP seems to finally "get it" that the question is not really as simple as it first appears.

It is clear than you have issues.

I'm just stating the facts. People have not provided a list of coaches that they are willing to admit their DD's have had. The Op is getting information but it was predicted what info would be provided and so far that has been in fact the case.

Tell us all your DD's coach if you wish to prove me wrong and that I have "issues".

Dude the guy does not want to share his coach or club. Rather odd you keep harping on him to provide it. Also weird you talk about some collective like you are union boss and understand what we all think. Give it up.

That is fine, just don't complain when, for the exact same reasons people do not provide theirs. The OP is beyond this point now but you seem stuck in it. Feel free to prove me wrong by listing your DD's best coaches. The point stands and the OP is getting unexpected information so you can let it go now.

Now you are asking me to provide my DD's best coaches? LOL. You go first since you want transparency. My guess is that you would never share your club or coach either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am amazed at the moronic responses posted. I asked the question because I am interested in learning more and hearing other perspectives. If you don't like the question or can't add anything relevant then go away. Why post? I have found several of the posts informative and helpful. Notice that I have no other agenda other than to hear insights and perspectives. I have not pushed a club or coach or written anything negative about a club or coach. At the end of the day, this is why we have the site so that people can share information. Again, if you are not interested in sharing information then go away. It is simple.

BTW, you don't need to know anything about my kid other than she is of age to enter DA/ECNL and is considering both leagues. Again, if you don't have anythig to add then go away.

Finally, I have asked for suggestions of non-ECNL/DA teams and coaches.

People HAVE provided honest answers as well as perspective. I am sorry that they are not what you want to hear but you been granted every courtesy you deserve. You have also been told that in order to provide better answers more information is needed from you. It is not that complicated. State the age and clubs and you will may get meaningful answers.

And you have been told by the people you have asked that our knowing the age is important. Perhaps people know what age groups a coach will end up with that you hadn't considered. This is a two way street my friend and frankly you are the one who is not getting the answers to questions that only you want. The fact of the matter is we don't care enough about your kid to tell you more than you have already been told without more info. Where you end up means more to you than any of us so either follow the advice that has been given with the best of intent or stfu.

Not PP, but speak for yourself.

Ok, because all I saw that remotely answered the OP were a few names of coaches that nobody admitted to have actually had as their own kids coach. By the standards of the OP question, sorry but the collective point still stands. Unless more information is provided by the OP it is difficult for people to provide any specific meaningful answers in the form of a list. Everything else has been sound advice regarding the process to find the answer absent of meaningful information. By the tone of the last few posts the OP seems to finally "get it" that the question is not really as simple as it first appears.

It is clear than you have issues.

I'm just stating the facts. People have not provided a list of coaches that they are willing to admit their DD's have had. The Op is getting information but it was predicted what info would be provided and so far that has been in fact the case.

Tell us all your DD's coach if you wish to prove me wrong and that I have "issues".

Dude the guy does not want to share his coach or club. Rather odd you keep harping on him to provide it. Also weird you talk about some collective like you are union boss and understand what we all think. Give it up.

That is fine, just don't complain when, for the exact same reasons people do not provide theirs. The OP is beyond this point now but you seem stuck in it. Feel free to prove me wrong by listing your DD's best coaches. The point stands and the OP is getting unexpected information so you can let it go now.

Now you are asking me to provide my DD's best coaches? LOL. You go first since you want transparency. My guess is that you would never share your club or coach either.

I didn't ask you to provide it because I care or even want to know. The point is that you can ask the question but people are not at all comfortable giving the answer. The OP, even when told this dug in and didn't understand why it is an issue for other people even though pertinent information when asked of the OP was similarly not provided for the exact same reasons. And those reasons are nobody wants to out themselves on a message board. I stand by that point and if you think I am wrong then just list your DD's best coaches. To coin a phrase used here before, "it's not that complicated".

[Anonymous]

So anyway, what other qualities are you looking for in a potential coach?

[Anonymous]

The answer to the original question asked is really player-specific. For example, does your DD react better to a coach who is more critical/vocal in their instructions or does she react better to a more "positive" coaching approach?

How a parent rates a particular coach will most certainly be influenced by how their child was treated by, and reacted to, the coach, so a coach may be rated highly by one family but despised by another. Indeed, in this thread, there's a coach named that my DD played for that I would advise parents to avoid at all costs, but then, YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The answer to the original question asked is really player-specific. For example, does your DD react better to a coach who is more critical/vocal in their instructions or does she react better to a more "positive" coaching approach?

How a parent rates a particular coach will most certainly be influenced by how their child was treated by, and reacted to, the coach, so a coach may be rated highly by one family but despised by another. Indeed, in this thread, there's a coach named that my DD played for that I would advise parents to avoid at all costs, but then, YMMV.

Very true. We have friends at Rush, which OP mentioned is one of the teams they are looking at. One of the parents loves the 06 coach, while another said: "Forget letting him coach my daughter. I wouldn't let him coach Osama Bin Laden's daughter."

As you said, your mileage may vary.