New Girls High School Lacrosse Club

[Anonymous]

But really what is the point in playing HS club lacrosse if not to get recruited? Shouldn't the girls who just want to play in HS be able to play without having to spend all year playing lacrosse. I know at my DD's school, the work is hard and they are there until 6 everyday with required sports. Having to go play club on top of that, with everything else that is asked of them is crazy. They have no life. Only if your DD is serious about getting recruited does this make any sense to me. I pulled my older DS from club lacrosse in HS and he didn't realize until he wasn't doing it anymore how much actually disliked it. Lacrosse for school all of a sudden became a joy for him and he actually played much better once all the stress was taken off. Club lacrosse has killed the sport, seriously. Thanks Baltimore!

[Anonymous]

I can see how that definitely happened to your son, but parts of what you say I really disagree. This is true for club teams that kill the love of the sport. A lot of kids, like my daughter, absolutely love playing. Club is great - the girls are really good, the competition is great, the tournaments are fun, the trips are terrific, and the confidence and friends she has gained are the best. HOWEVER, the vast majority will not go on to play college! A very small percentage of those who play high school will end up doing that. And, I know countless people who are recruited for D1 teams and drop out after their first or second year. I think it is very appropriate and reasonable for kids to give it their all through high school knowing it may end there. The message is to enjoy it and live for the moment instead of playing just to see what comes next. Maybe idealistic, but I think this is true for most of the kids except for the very top tier. That's why I think a team like Panthera, which will hopefully cater to girls in the top 10% instead of the top 2%, will be a great addition!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can see how that definitely happened to your son, but parts of what you say I really disagree. This is true for club teams that kill the love of the sport. A lot of kids, like my daughter, absolutely love playing. Club is great - the girls are really good, the competition is great, the tournaments are fun, the trips are terrific, and the confidence and friends she has gained are the best. HOWEVER, the vast majority will not go on to play college! A very small percentage of those who play high school will end up doing that. And, I know countless people who are recruited for D1 teams and drop out after their first or second year. I think it is very appropriate and reasonable for kids to give it their all through high school knowing it may end there. The message is to enjoy it and live for the moment instead of playing just to see what comes next. Maybe idealistic, but I think this is true for most of the kids except for the very top tier. That's why I think a team like Panthera, which will hopefully cater to girls in the top 10% instead of the top 2%, will be a great addition!

Well said, PP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can see how that definitely happened to your son, but parts of what you say I really disagree. This is true for club teams that kill the love of the sport. A lot of kids, like my daughter, absolutely love playing. Club is great - the girls are really good, the competition is great, the tournaments are fun, the trips are terrific, and the confidence and friends she has gained are the best. HOWEVER, the vast majority will not go on to play college! A very small percentage of those who play high school will end up doing that. And, I know countless people who are recruited for D1 teams and drop out after their first or second year. I think it is very appropriate and reasonable for kids to give it their all through high school knowing it may end there. The message is to enjoy it and live for the moment instead of playing just to see what comes next. Maybe idealistic, but I think this is true for most of the kids except for the very top tier. That's why I think a team like Panthera, which will hopefully cater to girls in the top 10% instead of the top 2%, will be a great addition!

This and I have two younger relatives who play or played d1 lacrosse. It is a full time job: The odds of my dd being recruited by a school we would otherwise want her to attend are very low. She loves playing club lax because she loves playing lacrosses. Perfectly fine with all of us if she just plays club lax in college or doesn’t play at sll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can see how that definitely happened to your son, but parts of what you say I really disagree. This is true for club teams that kill the love of the sport. A lot of kids, like my daughter, absolutely love playing. Club is great - the girls are really good, the competition is great, the tournaments are fun, the trips are terrific, and the confidence and friends she has gained are the best. HOWEVER, the vast majority will not go on to play college! A very small percentage of those who play high school will end up doing that. And, I know countless people who are recruited for D1 teams and drop out after their first or second year. I think it is very appropriate and reasonable for kids to give it their all through high school knowing it may end there. The message is to enjoy it and live for the moment instead of playing just to see what comes next. Maybe idealistic, but I think this is true for most of the kids except for the very top tier. That's why I think a team like Panthera, which will hopefully cater to girls in the top 10% instead of the top 2%, will be a great addition!

This and I have two younger relatives who play or played d1 lacrosse. It is a full time job: The odds of my dd being recruited by a school we would otherwise want her to attend are very low. She loves playing club lax because she loves playing lacrosses. Perfectly fine with all of us if she just plays club lax in college or doesn’t play at sll.

Great that it’s fine with you but is it fine with your DD? It certainly isn’t with mine. She wants to play D1 at an Ivy or other top academic school. It’s very important to her. In order to get there she needs great grades and test scores of course but she also needs to be a top player and on a very competitive club team for high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see how that definitely happened to your son, but parts of what you say I really disagree. This is true for club teams that kill the love of the sport. A lot of kids, like my daughter, absolutely love playing. Club is great - the girls are really good, the competition is great, the tournaments are fun, the trips are terrific, and the confidence and friends she has gained are the best. HOWEVER, the vast majority will not go on to play college! A very small percentage of those who play high school will end up doing that. And, I know countless people who are recruited for D1 teams and drop out after their first or second year. I think it is very appropriate and reasonable for kids to give it their all through high school knowing it may end there. The message is to enjoy it and live for the moment instead of playing just to see what comes next. Maybe idealistic, but I think this is true for most of the kids except for the very top tier. That's why I think a team like Panthera, which will hopefully cater to girls in the top 10% instead of the top 2%, will be a great addition!

This and I have two younger relatives who play or played d1 lacrosse. It is a full time job: The odds of my dd being recruited by a school we would otherwise want her to attend are very low. She loves playing club lax because she loves playing lacrosses. Perfectly fine with all of us if she just plays club lax in college or doesn’t play at sll.

Great that it’s fine with you but is it fine with your DD? It certainly isn’t with mine. She wants to play D1 at an Ivy or other top academic school. It’s very important to her. In order to get there she needs great grades and test scores of course but she also needs to be a top player and on a very competitive club team for high school.

.?, the above comments go to the point that not every girl playing club wants to play iD1 in college, even if she is on “the most competitive team.” There certainly is room in the club scene for more teams, because not every girl is your daughter.

[Anonymous]

There's a niche to be filled for a club focused on girls who'd like to play D3.

[Anonymous]

I imagine Panthera will draw from a wide range of talented girls so I don't see why it won't be able to cater to D1 and D3 players. I agree with the poster above about hopefully keeping the fun in Club play and not draining all the enjoyment out just chasing recruitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a niche to be filled for a club focused on girls who'd like to play D3.

Lots of girls could play Ivy or other D1 but may prefer to play top D3 like NESCAC. That's my daughter's focus because she wants to study abroad and do some things besides lacrosse - either way, NESCAC will be very lacrosse focused. She decided not to try out for Capital but having already met with or attended camp with many coaches of the schools she's interested in, she's not at all worried about her choice. They all told her that a good bit of the recruiting comes from small camps on their campus or ones with 4-6 coaches and 100 girls attending. Having attended some already and seen the follow up she's gotten I tend to agree.

[Anonymous]

For what it’s worth, Capital has great connections and relationships with NESCAC coaches. And though I agree that some exposure comes through the camps that PP mentions, don’t underestimate the value of having trusted, reputable, established club coaches doing their thing to get their girls recruited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For what it’s worth, Capital has great connections and relationships with NESCAC coaches. And though I agree that some exposure comes through the camps that PP mentions, don’t underestimate the value of having trusted, reputable, established club coaches doing their thing to get their girls recruited.

I don’t disagree that a girl could be helped by Capital coaches but she can also be helped by high school coaches at the top privates who have similar connections. There are multiple paths.

[Anonymous]

I'd also say that some club coaches have relationships with D3 coaches, but on the whole, the focus is on D1 recruiting. My DD was told by a club coach that she was "selling herself short" by aiming for D3 schools. In the end, the coach was supportive of DD's goal, but it took some effort on our part to explain why someone capable of playing for a D1 program would want to play D3.

[Anonymous]

Anyone watch the Panthera webinar last night? Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone watch the Panthera webinar last night? Thoughts?

I did. It was well done. I don't think however that the club is going to be nearly as intense as Capital - especially clear in the answers to missing practices, missing work outs. My DD wants to be on a team where missing practices or work outs results in less playing time. She wants to be on a team where everyone must meet the same expectations or have to deal with consequences. So for us, that is a drawback, but for many folks up thread I believe that will be a positive.

[Anonymous]

The time frame given for accepting an offer is interesting. It doesnt really allow all the girls to know if they have made another team. The date given was 8/20. Capital, for instance, will not announce final cuts until 8/21/or 8/22 and wont announce which team you are on until September. I imagine that girls who make Capital Orange would seriously consider playing for Panthera instead but they wont know so will have to make an uninformed decision. In that situation, I have to think most girls would stick with Capital with the hope of being placed on blue.