I don't like Beyonce

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I'm sure she's very talented and a hard worker.

However I have never liked vulgarity and her shows, as well as many, many others in pop culture, offend me.




Yep, her shows are explicit and we tell young girls of color to look to her and then complain they are viewed as sexual objects

This is insane. She's a grown woman. She sings about sexuality in a way that is empowering for women. I mean, are you some weirdo who has sex through a hole in a sheet and clutches your pearls about Madonna, Britney, Gaga, Alanis, Prince, Cyndi, and basically every other frickin pop star? Do you realize sex is part of life? Are you seriously trying to blame Beyonce for the hypersexualization of black girls? WTF is wrong with you?

She has used her power to shed light on issues of racism and sexism and is contributing a rich volume of work to our culture. You don't have to like it, but your criticism is mindless.


I'm the first PP in the little thread above, and yes, I find most pop culture vulgar. This isn't about Beyonce in particular. And just because I find these shows vulgar, it doesn't mean I am afraid of sex, or whatever you are implying. I strongly disagree with you that these artists describe sexuality in a way that is empowering for woman - actually I think exactly the opposite. And since I'm not the other PP, I don't have any opinions on the hypersexualization of black girls.






NP here and not a prude. Quite the opposite actually, but I agree with the previous poster that I do not find her sex Spiel empowering to women. It feels degrading if anything.
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I'm sure she's very talented and a hard worker.

However I have never liked vulgarity and her shows, as well as many, many others in pop culture, offend me.




Yep, her shows are explicit and we tell young girls of color to look to her and then complain they are viewed as sexual objects

This is insane. She's a grown woman. She sings about sexuality in a way that is empowering for women. I mean, are you some weirdo who has sex through a hole in a sheet and clutches your pearls about Madonna, Britney, Gaga, Alanis, Prince, Cyndi, and basically every other frickin pop star? Do you realize sex is part of life? Are you seriously trying to blame Beyonce for the hypersexualization of black girls? WTF is wrong with you?

She has used her power to shed light on issues of racism and sexism and is contributing a rich volume of work to our culture. You don't have to like it, but your criticism is mindless.


Not the PP, but this is a woman Michelle Obama called "a role model for us all"? Here are some lovely lyrics I'm sure you're sharing with your kids. Because you know, role model.

"Driver roll up the partition please
Driver roll up the partition please
I don't need you seeing 'Yonce on her knees
Took forty-five minutes to get all dressed up
We ain't even gonna make it to this club
Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged
Oh he so horny, yeah he want to f*ck
He bucked all my buttons, he ripped my blouse
He Monica Lewinski'd all on my gown"


Oh, I thought she was just being presidential.
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Anonymous wrote:I imagine she probably wouldn’t like you either.


She likely goes on living her best life #unbothered by the people in this thread. Just as Taylor Swift doesn't care that I think she is trash.


You seem to be taking criticism of "Bey" very personally. Why is that?


It actually looks like you are taking it personally. Someone pointed out that she probably wouldn't like the OP and others here. I noted that she likely didn't care, just as Swifty wouldn't care that I don't like her and her music. You have a better day.
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Anonymous wrote:Im not a Beyoncé fan but I do not hate her. I can appreciate that she works hard for her brand. I am however, trying to understand ppl claiming she has an attitude. She rarely speaks. When she does actually speak she’s soft spoken, smiles a lot, and sounds country (which then ppl attribute to her being dumb). It seems ppl are confusing her fan base with her.


+1 I don't care for her music anymore, but she's rather inoffensive when it comes to celebrities - no drugs, no affairs, no "leaked" sex tapes, no racist/sexist offensive rants, no nasty outbursts to fans. It doesn't appear that she slept her way to the top. So she didn't finish high school - neither did Jennifer Lawrence and people seem unbothered. All the hate Beyonce gets makes me want to be defensive of her - not like she needs it though.


This! I don’t know why (though I have my suspicions) people hold her to a higher standard than every other famous person


Nailed it. And for that PP who said she slept her way to the top by marrying Jay-Z, you are completely wrong. Beyonce upgraded him. He was on the Rappers' retirement train when he hooked his latch to her star. Without Beyonce Jay-Z would still be rapping about the Marcy projects.

I'm not a fan of hers' but I can't knock the hustle She has crafted an allure that appeals to her fans and haters alike. She has made astute business decisions that have increased her net worth 100 fold. And she still reps her home town on the regular. She hasn't gone all Hollywood or turned into a NYC girl.

Even if you don't like her music, what has she done to make people hate her? I actually use to hate her, but I realized I was just jealous.


I'm a huge Beyonce fan and DC fan from the beginning like 90s and this is dead wrong. I remember when I saw her video of Crazy in love come out as a teen with Jay-z. She has worked extremely hard, but almost all of her work since that song has been with him/about him in some way. I'm not even a huge fan of his, but so much of her career/songs have revolved around him. I'll never forget the day I saw the Crazy in Love video and couldn't believe that's how she launched her career. (complete album about being dangerously in love) Love her though!!


You may be a fan of Beyonce but clearly not one of Jay-z. When they met he hadnt had a radio hit in some time. He was breaking up the Roc family Dirty South rap was on the comeup and lil Wayne was making a name for himself.

She may have focused her music on him. And that's probably because she was in love. But in doing that, she brought him back into the limelight.

They helped each other. She made him legit, brought him mainstream, and he gave her street cred.


I agree with this. I think she is an iconic entertainer for the ages, and I love some of her music but not all. The two of them are greater than the sum of their parts, IMHO. As far as OP, different strokes. I'm like another PP who is weary of Taylor Swift and Justin Timberlake. See how that goes?

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Anonymous wrote:Im not a Beyoncé fan but I do not hate her. I can appreciate that she works hard for her brand. I am however, trying to understand ppl claiming she has an attitude. She rarely speaks. When she does actually speak she’s soft spoken, smiles a lot, and sounds country (which then ppl attribute to her being dumb). It seems ppl are confusing her fan base with her.


+1 I don't care for her music anymore, but she's rather inoffensive when it comes to celebrities - no drugs, no affairs, no "leaked" sex tapes, no racist/sexist offensive rants, no nasty outbursts to fans. It doesn't appear that she slept her way to the top. So she didn't finish high school - neither did Jennifer Lawrence and people seem unbothered. All the hate Beyonce gets makes me want to be defensive of her - not like she needs it though.


This! I don’t know why (though I have my suspicions) people hold her to a higher standard than every other famous person


Nailed it. And for that PP who said she slept her way to the top by marrying Jay-Z, you are completely wrong. Beyonce upgraded him. He was on the Rappers' retirement train when he hooked his latch to her star. Without Beyonce Jay-Z would still be rapping about the Marcy projects.

I'm not a fan of hers' but I can't knock the hustle She has crafted an allure that appeals to her fans and haters alike. She has made astute business decisions that have increased her net worth 100 fold. And she still reps her home town on the regular. She hasn't gone all Hollywood or turned into a NYC girl.

Even if you don't like her music, what has she done to make people hate her? I actually use to hate her, but I realized I was just jealous.


I'm a huge Beyonce fan and DC fan from the beginning like 90s and this is dead wrong. I remember when I saw her video of Crazy in love come out as a teen with Jay-z. She has worked extremely hard, but almost all of her work since that song has been with him/about him in some way. I'm not even a huge fan of his, but so much of her career/songs have revolved around him. I'll never forget the day I saw the Crazy in Love video and couldn't believe that's how she launched her career. (complete album about being dangerously in love) Love her though!!


You may be a fan of Beyonce but clearly not one of Jay-z. When they met he hadnt had a radio hit in some time. He was breaking up the Roc family Dirty South rap was on the comeup and lil Wayne was making a name for himself.

She may have focused her music on him. And that's probably because she was in love. But in doing that, she brought him back into the limelight.

They helped each other. She made him legit, brought him mainstream, and he gave her street cred.


+1 but IMO Jay hasn't had a good album since '04. Not that he hasn't had successful records...just that his post-Bey stuff isn't as good. It's not her fault. He started to go mainstream before her anyway with Hard Knock Life.

Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album are my favorites.
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Anonymous wrote:I imagine she probably wouldn’t like you either.


She likely goes on living her best life #unbothered by the people in this thread. Just as Taylor Swift doesn't care that I think she is trash.


You seem to be taking criticism of "Bey" very personally. Why is that?


It actually looks like you are taking it personally. Someone pointed out that she probably wouldn't like the OP and others here. I noted that she likely didn't care, just as Swifty wouldn't care that I don't like her and her music. You have a better day.


I don't care that you don't like Taylor Swift - I'm not a huge fan myself. Why would I take it personally either way? Why do you take it personally if we say we don't like Beyoncé and that she's actually a horrible role model for young girls? Stop being so offended on someone else's behalf. Someone who doesn't even know you.
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Anonymous wrote:Im not a Beyoncé fan but I do not hate her. I can appreciate that she works hard for her brand. I am however, trying to understand ppl claiming she has an attitude. She rarely speaks. When she does actually speak she’s soft spoken, smiles a lot, and sounds country (which then ppl attribute to her being dumb). It seems ppl are confusing her fan base with her.


+1 I don't care for her music anymore, but she's rather inoffensive when it comes to celebrities - no drugs, no affairs, no "leaked" sex tapes, no racist/sexist offensive rants, no nasty outbursts to fans. It doesn't appear that she slept her way to the top. So she didn't finish high school - neither did Jennifer Lawrence and people seem unbothered. All the hate Beyonce gets makes me want to be defensive of her - not like she needs it though.


This! I don’t know why (though I have my suspicions) people hold her to a higher standard than every other famous person


Nailed it. And for that PP who said she slept her way to the top by marrying Jay-Z, you are completely wrong. Beyonce upgraded him. He was on the Rappers' retirement train when he hooked his latch to her star. Without Beyonce Jay-Z would still be rapping about the Marcy projects.

I'm not a fan of hers' but I can't knock the hustle She has crafted an allure that appeals to her fans and haters alike. She has made astute business decisions that have increased her net worth 100 fold. And she still reps her home town on the regular. She hasn't gone all Hollywood or turned into a NYC girl.

Even if you don't like her music, what has she done to make people hate her? I actually use to hate her, but I realized I was just jealous.


I'm a huge Beyonce fan and DC fan from the beginning like 90s and this is dead wrong. I remember when I saw her video of Crazy in love come out as a teen with Jay-z. She has worked extremely hard, but almost all of her work since that song has been with him/about him in some way. I'm not even a huge fan of his, but so much of her career/songs have revolved around him. I'll never forget the day I saw the Crazy in Love video and couldn't believe that's how she launched her career. (complete album about being dangerously in love) Love her though!!


You may be a fan of Beyonce but clearly not one of Jay-z. When they met he hadnt had a radio hit in some time. He was breaking up the Roc family Dirty South rap was on the comeup and lil Wayne was making a name for himself.

She may have focused her music on him. And that's probably because she was in love. But in doing that, she brought him back into the limelight.

They helped each other. She made him legit, brought him mainstream, and he gave her street cred.


+1 but IMO Jay hasn't had a good album since '04. Not that he hasn't had successful records...just that his post-Bey stuff isn't as good. It's not her fault. He started to go mainstream before her anyway with Hard Knock Life.

Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album are my favorites.


Yeah the Black Album is my jawn.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I imagine she probably wouldn’t like you either.


She likely goes on living her best life #unbothered by the people in this thread. Just as Taylor Swift doesn't care that I think she is trash.


You seem to be taking criticism of "Bey" very personally. Why is that?


It actually looks like you are taking it personally. Someone pointed out that she probably wouldn't like the OP and others here. I noted that she likely didn't care, just as Swifty wouldn't care that I don't like her and her music. You have a better day.


I don't care that you don't like Taylor Swift - I'm not a huge fan myself. Why would I take it personally either way? Why do you take it personally if we say we don't like Beyoncé and that she's actually a horrible role model for young girls? Stop being so offended on someone else's behalf. Someone who doesn't even know you.


You seem...dim. The point continues to whoosh over your head. I don't give two shits about Beyonce. Or Taylor. Or you. Just as Beyonce and Taylor don't care if any of us like them or their music. Is that more clear or do you need bifocals and a diagram?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I imagine she probably wouldn’t like you either.


She likely goes on living her best life #unbothered by the people in this thread. Just as Taylor Swift doesn't care that I think she is trash.


You seem to be taking criticism of "Bey" very personally. Why is that?


It actually looks like you are taking it personally. Someone pointed out that she probably wouldn't like the OP and others here. I noted that she likely didn't care, just as Swifty wouldn't care that I don't like her and her music. You have a better day.


I don't care that you don't like Taylor Swift - I'm not a huge fan myself. Why would I take it personally either way? Why do you take it personally if we say we don't like Beyoncé and that she's actually a horrible role model for young girls? Stop being so offended on someone else's behalf. Someone who doesn't even know you.


You seem...dim. The point continues to whoosh over your head. I don't give two shits about Beyonce. Or Taylor. Or you. Just as Beyonce and Taylor don't care if any of us like them or their music. Is that more clear or do you need bifocals and a diagram?


You seem... angry.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I imagine she probably wouldn’t like you either.


She likely goes on living her best life #unbothered by the people in this thread. Just as Taylor Swift doesn't care that I think she is trash.


You seem to be taking criticism of "Bey" very personally. Why is that?


It actually looks like you are taking it personally. Someone pointed out that she probably wouldn't like the OP and others here. I noted that she likely didn't care, just as Swifty wouldn't care that I don't like her and her music. You have a better day.


I don't care that you don't like Taylor Swift - I'm not a huge fan myself. Why would I take it personally either way? Why do you take it personally if we say we don't like Beyoncé and that she's actually a horrible role model for young girls? Stop being so offended on someone else's behalf. Someone who doesn't even know you.


You seem...dim. The point continues to whoosh over your head. I don't give two shits about Beyonce. Or Taylor. Or you. Just as Beyonce and Taylor don't care if any of us like them or their music. Is that more clear or do you need bifocals and a diagram?


You seem... angry.


NP- you are stupid and barking up the wrong tree. Find a real Beyonce fan to harass.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm sure she's very talented and a hard worker.

However I have never liked vulgarity and her shows, as well as many, many others in pop culture, offend me.




Yep, her shows are explicit and we tell young girls of color to look to her and then complain they are viewed as sexual objects


I couldn't agree more.

https://www.theblaze.com/contributions/beyonce-is-destroying-your-daughter-not-empowering-her

I guess you also dislike the First Lady and her nude pics, her p**** grabbing husband as well??
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Anonymous wrote:Findislike her and her former drug dealer husband. The fact that people look up to her and her husband as role models is what’s wrong with today’s society.

Liking their music or not is one thing. However, have you never heard Jay Z talk about how he got into and out of drug dealing? How he is trying to be a role model to teach kids NOT to do what he did and that there are other avenues for kids at risk of entering that life?
Do people not get 2nd chances?
WTF is the point if we are not allowed to make better choices?
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Anonymous wrote:Findislike her and her former drug dealer husband. The fact that people look up to her and her husband as role models is what’s wrong with today’s society.

Liking their music or not is one thing. However, have you never heard Jay Z talk about how he got into and out of drug dealing? How he is trying to be a role model to teach kids NOT to do what he did and that there are other avenues for kids at risk of entering that life?
Do people not get 2nd chances?
WTF is the point if we are not allowed to make better choices?


+1! He is the perfect example of a role model. Showing that you can make mistakes, overcome them and still succeed. That you are not your mistakes. But I forgot, only white people get second chances. Only white people are allowed forgiveness.
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Anonymous wrote:Findislike her and her former drug dealer husband. The fact that people look up to her and her husband as role models is what’s wrong with today’s society.

Liking their music or not is one thing. However, have you never heard Jay Z talk about how he got into and out of drug dealing? How he is trying to be a role model to teach kids NOT to do what he did and that there are other avenues for kids at risk of entering that life?
Do people not get 2nd chances?
WTF is the point if we are not allowed to make better choices?


+1! He is the perfect example of a role model. Showing that you can make mistakes, overcome them and still succeed. That you are not your mistakes. But I forgot, only white people get second chances. Only white people are allowed forgiveness.
+1 His story is inspirational and a true example to a lot of our young black youth. You do not have to be a victim of your circumstances, you can overcome!
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Anonymous wrote:Findislike her and her former drug dealer husband. The fact that people look up to her and her husband as role models is what’s wrong with today’s society.


I never understood why the Obamas worshipped them so much and encouraged their daughters to view them as role models.


They didn't.
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