2017: Has marriage & 4-6 kids become the ultimate signal of real wealth?

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Anonymous wrote:you should have seen my face when I pulled this photo up



lol. Fwiw I have 3 kids now and there is no way I would want 5 or 6 total! Four would be my absolute max! I don't see how I could give 5-6 kids the level of individual attention I give my 3 kids now.

Nanny, au pair, tutors, housekeeper ... kids off to boarding school in grade 9. Hence, signal of wealth.

But as the parent, I still want to be able to give each child a certain amount of my attention each day. And I want my H to do so as well. Maybe I am too much of a control freak but as it is now I don't trust babysitters to oversee hw and I like to put them to bed myself and give cuddles, go to their activities and games myself, etc.

We're pretty maxed out time wise with 3 kids. I could see adding a 4th but no more than that.

Agree. I only have two (and done) and I still feel pulled between them sometimes. I'm not great at multitasking so it's very hard for me to, say, cook dinner and supervise two kids' homework. We are fortunate that DH makes a high salary so the decision to stop at 2 was 0% financial and 100% emotional.

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That is because you actually care more about your children's well being and less about using your kids for your own personal gains.

Haha oh god. Spoiler alert: your overinvolved helicopter parenting is NOT doing your kids any favors. The kids who grow up in big families will be, by and large, more self-sufficient, better adjusted, and equipped with a range of social and adaptability skills that will serve them well as adults [/quote]

Depends on the parents. Usually such narcissistic parents become a problem in the child's upbringing. Do your research.

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Anonymous wrote:you should have seen my face when I pulled this photo up



lol. Fwiw I have 3 kids now and there is no way I would want 5 or 6 total! Four would be my absolute max! I don't see how I could give 5-6 kids the level of individual attention I give my 3 kids now.

Nanny, au pair, tutors, housekeeper ... kids off to boarding school in grade 9. Hence, signal of wealth.

But as the parent, I still want to be able to give each child a certain amount of my attention each day. And I want my H to do so as well. Maybe I am too much of a control freak but as it is now I don't trust babysitters to oversee hw and I like to put them to bed myself and give cuddles, go to their activities and games myself, etc.

We're pretty maxed out time wise with 3 kids. I could see adding a 4th but no more than that.

Agree. I only have two (and done) and I still feel pulled between them sometimes. I'm not great at multitasking so it's very hard for me to, say, cook dinner and supervise two kids' homework. We are fortunate that DH makes a high salary so the decision to stop at 2 was 0% financial and 100% emotional.

+1

That is because you actually care more about your children's well being and less about using your kids for your own personal gains.

Haha oh god. Spoiler alert: your overinvolved helicopter parenting is NOT doing your kids any favors. The kids who grow up in big families will be, by and large, more self-sufficient, better adjusted, and equipped with a range of social and adaptability skills that will serve them well as adults [/quote]

Depends on the parents. Usually such narcissistic parents become a problem in the child's upbringing. Do your research.

Depends on the parents. Usually such narcissitic parents become a problem int he child's upbringing. Do your research.

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Please explain the environmental impact of a child. Thank you

Here's one explanation: http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2009/jul/family-planning-major-environmental-emphasis (The focus here is on carbon emissions.)

I don't particularly care about an extra child's impact on the environment. If the government or society has a problem with it then they should severely limit immigration (isn't natural birthrates lower than the replacement rates?).

Good luck in trying to persuade me it's wasteful to bring an extra person to this world.

It's not just wasteful it is so unnecessary. I see families with 5 or 6 kids and it just makes me think that the mother is some sort of broodmare who can't help but pump out more kids because that's how she defines her value and purpose in life. It's just grotesque and does no favor to the litter of kids fighting amongst themselves for their parent's attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Italians haven't been having children for a long while now. The government has been trying to get them to procreate.

Looks like Dolce & Gabana are trying to make it look glamorous as wel.

Though, frankly, with that guy in his "wife-beater" tee and all of those kids it reminds me of an Irish family during the potato famine.

same. probably because they're all in their underwear.

Idk but there is nothing glam or aspiration about that photo for me.

Maybe if they were all dressed up at the theater, like at a performance for the Nutcracker or something? That could be sweet.

And women who have given birth six times have a body like that. And boobies like that! Yeah, right!

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The pic is an ad. Is it really all 1 family? Seems unlikely to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Please explain the environmental impact of a child. Thank you

Here's one explanation: http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2009/jul/family-planning-major-environmental-emphasis (The focus here is on carbon emissions.)

I don't particularly care about an extra child's impact on the environment. If the government or society has a problem with it then they should severely limit immigration (isn't natural birthrates lower than the replacement rates?).

Good luck in trying to persuade me it's wasteful to bring an extra person to this world.

OK, then don't. There is an impact, but you don't have to care about it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Please explain the environmental impact of a child. Thank you

Here's one explanation: http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2009/jul/family-planning-major-environmental-emphasis (The focus here is on carbon emissions.)

I don't particularly care about an extra child's impact on the environment. If the government or society has a problem with it then they should severely limit immigration (isn't natural birthrates lower than the replacement rates?).

Good luck in trying to persuade me it's wasteful to bring an extra person to this world.

OK, then don't. There is an impact, but you don't have to care about it.

It's not a personal attack. Bt you have to acknowledge that a world with 15 billion people would be a very tough, maybe impossible, world to live in. How do you think it gets that big? Not by people having between 0-2 children, I'll tell you that. You don't have to play dumb or be offended, but you should realize that overpopulation is an issue, even if you don't want to help contribute to a solution.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned with this.

The rise of white supremacy and xenophobia.
The push for the white babies.
There is a historical context for this and we're in dangerous territory.

There is no rise of white supremacy. They have always been there as extremists but a small minority. It is the extremists on the left and the media that are bringing them out to brainwash the rest of the people in the middle. The normal people in the middle are sick of this. The media wants to stay on their perch and pretend they are victims. The people in the middle are the real victims of this power struggle.

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LOL so now it's a bad thing to love your child and want to give him or her adequate attention? I've now heard it all.

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4 became the new 3 a few years ago. Now 5 is the new 4. It's certainly a "thing" in my Bethesda neighborhood, and yes everyone has nannies. Not everyone is in private though.

There's a reason a loaded Suburban is $85k and they can't keep them on the lots!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm concerned with this.

The rise of white supremacy and xenophobia.
The push for the white babies.
There is a historical context for this and we're in dangerous territory.

There is no rise of white supremacy. They have always been there as extremists but a small minority. It is the extremists on the left and the media that are bringing them out to brainwash the rest of the people in the middle. The normal people in the middle are sick of this. The media wants to stay on their perch and pretend they are victims. The people in the middle are the real victims of this power struggle.

You have to know that this makes no sense. "Extremists on the left" aren't "bringing out" neo-Nazis. White supremacists have been emboldened by this Administration and are actively recruiting online and in person, and scheduling marches/rallies/etc. They're not being "brought out" by leftists, and they're only being covered by the media. You are not a "normal person" in the "middle" if you think that Nazis, leftists, and journalists are equally bad actors. You're a brainwashed Trump supporter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Please explain the environmental impact of a child. Thank you

Here's one explanation: http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2009/jul/family-planning-major-environmental-emphasis (The focus here is on carbon emissions.)

I don't particularly care about an extra child's impact on the environment. If the government or society has a problem with it then they should severely limit immigration (isn't natural birthrates lower than the replacement rates?).

Good luck in trying to persuade me it's wasteful to bring an extra person to this world.

It's not just wasteful it is so unnecessary. I see families with 5 or 6 kids and it just makes me think that the mother is some sort of broodmare who can't help but pump out more kids because that's how she defines her value and purpose in life. It's just grotesque and does no favor to the litter of kids fighting amongst themselves for their parent's attention.

That is just an incredibly unkind, hurtful thing to say.

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Anonymous wrote:you should have seen my face when I pulled this photo up



lol. Fwiw I have 3 kids now and there is no way I would want 5 or 6 total! Four would be my absolute max! I don't see how I could give 5-6 kids the level of individual attention I give my 3 kids now.

Nanny, au pair, tutors, housekeeper ... kids off to boarding school in grade 9. Hence, signal of wealth.

But as the parent, I still want to be able to give each child a certain amount of my attention each day. And I want my H to do so as well. Maybe I am too much of a control freak but as it is now I don't trust babysitters to oversee hw and I like to put them to bed myself and give cuddles, go to their activities and games myself, etc.

We're pretty maxed out time wise with 3 kids. I could see adding a 4th but no more than that.

Agree. I only have two (and done) and I still feel pulled between them sometimes. I'm not great at multitasking so it's very hard for me to, say, cook dinner and supervise two kids' homework. We are fortunate that DH makes a high salary so the decision to stop at 2 was 0% financial and 100% emotional.

+1

That is because you actually care more about your children's well being and less about using your kids for your own personal gains.

Haha oh god. Spoiler alert: your overinvolved helicopter parenting is NOT doing your kids any favors. The kids who grow up in big families will be, by and large, more self-sufficient, better adjusted, and equipped with a range of social and adaptability skills that will serve them well as adults [/quote]

Depends on the parents. Usually such narcissistic parents become a problem in the child's upbringing. Do your research.

Depends on the parents. Usually such narcissitic parents become a problem int he child's upbringing. Do your research.

(...where are you getting narcissism? If anything parents with the most kids have the least time to think about themselves)

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's beautiful. I would love to have a big family.

+1 What a beautiful gift of community to give your children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sheer fantasy. We'd all look like her after popping out six kids in six years.

LMAO This is exactly what I thought. She had those kids? No way, Jose.