Are you lazy? McDonald v. Santa Fe Trail Transp Co. and numerous cases since th n. |
Huh? Just look at the historical data for, say, of UM URM admissions. The scores are so weak compared to others. More outreach is needed. |
I find the parallel discussions illuminating. It's so crazy someone ought to share this with abovethelaw. |
Why? It's not as if most people who spent time in biglaw aren't aware of all this. |
I am the first PP and the very first thing you need to realize is that whatever the firm is putting you through is a reflection on that firm and not your ability, potential or future as a lawyer. You need to look in the mirror every single day and repeat that affirmation every single day. The other thing you need to is embrace (yes, embrace) the fact that the particular firm is not the place for you - you do not fit the firm and the firm does not fit you. That frees you up to start planning the next step. That was the hardest thing for me to understand. I thought I was a failure. Yet a big part of the problem was the firm being clueless about how to use my strengths. Once I moved on to a place that was all about identifying strengths and allowing me to position myself to succeed, I saw how woeful the firm was on the professional development front. |
Nice rationalization. |
Look at this thread. It's literally people denying this (like the comment above) while other people are "uh, yeah, this is happening." I mean, do you see the comment of the asshole above this? Despite multiple different random people all chiming in and basically saying...if you want to be a successful attorney as a working mother or black person, big law is not where it will happen. And by the way, you'll be subjected to essentially gas lighting on the way out the door. Crazy. |
Bite me.... |
You are right. I stand corrected. |
Ye and in cyber security you can request only Americans on advisory deal teams. So be it. |
I'm a mid career attorney who went to a top law school. I'm actually friends on social media with the 9 black students that were in my graduating class. And it appears, despite some of them graduating with honors, being on law review, clerking for federal judges, etc. none of them are partners in big law firms. My non-scientific survey.
1 is an actress. 1 works in house at a bank 1 works in house at an airline 1 works in house at a tech company 1 is a GC of a state regulatory agency 1 works at a private equity fund in a business role 2 are law professors 1 is an AUSA. I never thought about it, but it does seem to follow the trend. |
I am a black woman who is a COO. I am also a former corporate lawyer. I absolutely demand that our law firms are diverse. If I'm paying $1000 an hour, you better best believe that there should be a woman and person of color on that team. I know how hard it is for women and POC at big law. I know they are just as smart, but don't always get the respect or opportunity. |
If it were illegal, I'm sure the attorneys would say so...right?? |
Not necessarily. The professional and social costs of speaking out -- let alone suing -- would be severe. But I see possible causes of action. |
I'm not in big law, but I am a female POC, and a mother working in Finance in corporate America, and I find myself facing similar issues to what I see on this thread, especially the lack of professional development opportunities and constructive feedback. I especially appreciate the bolded parts above. It is hard not to internalize and think you are a failure, when the reality is that the system we operate is what fails us. Thank you PPs for being candid and open about the bullshit that women and POC are dealing with in professional workplaces right now in America. It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing this stuff, and that it's not "all in my head." |